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[Fromyou]

Oh sucks for you now you have to pay the same price as for a console game. I paid $60 for starcraft 2 and it was completly worth is and Mass Effect 3 would probably be the same case

[wolfsite]

Hell I still remember when Street Fighter 2 was first released on Consoles and many places were charging $99 to $129 for it.   Then you got into all the Champion and Super Tournament versions.

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

http://www.digitalsp...me-of-2010.html

Bioware should really stop releasing all PC versions.
ME2 was pirated more than 3 million times on PC but less than 1 million times on Xbox360.

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I'm not even gonna dignify that with a response.

[kstarler]

People keep throwing out games costing more than $60 in the past. Are they talking US Dollars? Because I've been gaming since the 80's and I don't recall very many games costing more than $50 new, and the ones that did came with hardware that was required to play the game or bundled with other games. I'd love for folks to give some examples, because I'm not buying it.

Edit: Were these high priced games in wide release, or were they limited editions/imports? I can understand the latter having a higher cost, but we're referring to a base edition, wide release of a game.

Modifié par kstarler, 12 janvier 2011 - 02:44 .

[sinosleep]

iggy4566 wrote...

sinosleep wrote...

No, I'm just pointing out the fact that posting "funny" pictures tends to have better effect when you actually post them, instead of linking to them cause you're to stupid to figure out how.

Perhaps that's part of the reason you don't mind being price gouged, too damned stupid to see that it's bad for EVERYONE, not just PC gamers.

You know instead of crying about it you could always get off steam.

Or I could do both since that's what smart consumers do, use both their voices and their wallets when they disagree about price points.

You remind me of the idiots I used to work with in the army. They'd sit there and take untold amounts of BS cause they were perfectly content to keep their mouths shut since it was coming from higher ranking people and they didn't want to be "whiners". So I'd make a valid argument as to why whatever it was that we were doing was moronic and we'd get out of it. People soon learned the difference between whining and having a legitimate complaint, since the chain of command would listen to one but not the other.

This is a legitimate complaint, and no amount of ignorant "stop crying" "you're paying the same prices as console gamers" in MY country we pay even more" "insert moronic reply here" is going to change that.

kstarler wrote...

People keep throwing out games costing more than $60 in the past. Are they talking US Dollars? Because I've been gaming since the 80's and I don't recall very many games costing more than $50 new, and the ones that did came with hardware that was required to play the game or bundled with other games. I'd love for folks to give some examples, because I'm not buying it.

Edit: Were these high priced games in wide release, or were they limited editions/imports? I can understand the latter having a higher cost, but we're referring to a base edition, wide release of a game.

I remember some SNES and N64 era games going for higher than 60 bucks but there was actually a valid reason for that, the cartridge format was a heck of a whole lot more expensive than the cd format.

I don't recall PC games of the era selling for the same price as cartridge based console games.

Modifié par sinosleep, 12 janvier 2011 - 02:55 .

[kstarler]

I do recall some of my cartridge games being around $60, but I don't recall any being higher. And I purchased FFIII (or FFVI if you prefer) about two weeks after it was released, because that was the first time I saw it wasn't sold out at the local Toys R Us. I think I paid $55 for it. But, as you said, these were cartridge games, not PC games, which is what the gripe is about.

[Renegade133]

wow Me2 cost me $99

[Veen130]

Stop complaining, I would love to have paid $60 for ME2, over here it costed me $130 for the standard edition.

[sinosleep]

Veen130 wrote...

Stop complaining, I would love to have paid $60 for ME2, over here it costed me $130 for the standard edition.

Right on cue, LOL. I suppose since Iraq has more civil rights issues than the US we should stop trying to get everyone here civil rights, right? It's a ludicrous argument. You getting even more ripped off than I am, doesn't make it right for me to get ripped off.

[kill_switch_423]

So...the complaint is that you will have to pay the same amount as us console gamers? (I'd be PC if I had the capability, but my comp is too weak... >.>

Edit:  Ok, so.... why should PC games be any cheaper? If there is a valid, factually-based reason, then go ahead and complain.  However, I see no reason that the PC version should be priced differently.

Modifié par kill_switch_423, 12 janvier 2011 - 03:09 .

[iggy4566]

sinosleep wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

sinosleep wrote...

No, I'm just pointing out the fact that posting "funny" pictures tends to have better effect when you actually post them, instead of linking to them cause you're to stupid to figure out how.

Perhaps that's part of the reason you don't mind being price gouged, too damned stupid to see that it's bad for EVERYONE, not just PC gamers.

You know instead of crying about it you could always get off steam.

Or I could do both since that's what smart consumers do, use both their voices and their wallets when they disagree about price points.

You remind me of the idiots I used to work with in the army. They'd sit there and take untold amounts of BS cause they were perfectly content to keep their mouths shut since it was coming from higher ranking people and they didn't want to be "whiners". So I'd make a valid argument as to why whatever it was that we were doing was moronic and we'd get out of it. People soon learned the difference between whining and having a legitimate complaint, since the chain of command would listen to one but not the other.

This is a legitimate complaint, and no amount of ignorant "stop crying" "you're paying the same prices as console gamers" in MY country we pay even more" "insert moronic reply here" is going to change that.

kstarler wrote...

People keep throwing out games costing more than $60 in the past. Are they talking US Dollars? Because I've been gaming since the 80's and I don't recall very many games costing more than $50 new, and the ones that did came with hardware that was required to play the game or bundled with other games. I'd love for folks to give some examples, because I'm not buying it.

Edit: Were these high priced games in wide release, or were they limited editions/imports? I can understand the latter having a higher cost, but we're referring to a base edition, wide release of a game.

I remember some SNES and N64 era games going for higher than 60 bucks but there was actually a valid reason for that, the cartridge format was a heck of a whole lot more expensive than the cd format.

I don't recall PC games of the era selling for the same price as cartridge based console games.

Seem to be a litte bitter mate  anyway you should really stop getting worked up about  the whole price thing like I said way back in the topic it most likely isn't the final price but most likely you'll  call me an idiot and keep on ranting have fun.

Modifié par iggy4566, 12 janvier 2011 - 03:11 .

[Stupidus]

Look, 50 or 60 bucks I'll buy it anyways. I think SC2 was 60, I don't even play it anymore but I bought it like the fanboi I am and loved every minute of the campaign. ME3 is going to be a 300+ hour playthrough for the dedicated fans who want to play different save files; is 60 going to be that much?

The real money grabs are gonna be the DLCs.

Modifié par Stupidus, 12 janvier 2011 - 03:09 .

[kstarler]

kill_switch_423 wrote...

So...the complaint is that you will have to pay the same amount as us console gamers? (I'd be PC if I had the capability, but my comp is too weak... >.>

The complaint is the rise in price without any appreciable rise in content. The extra price for console games has already been explained several times in this thread. There is no reason for increasing the price of the PC version of a game other than to increase the developer's profits. That is what folks are upset about.

If there were a real reason for increasing the price (other than that they can get away with it, because console games will say "Stop whining, because we already have it bad"), then there would still be complaints, but they would be fewer.

[Malanek]

ME2 cost me $NZ89.90 from memory. DA2, whch I preordered the other day was 99.90 which is currently roughly $US79. Over hear the distributors want a fat healthy cut. Steam was good except they have now started inflating it up to RRP and are now actually more expensive because you can usually get it slightly cheaper somewhere. $US60 doesn't seem that expensive for the amount of enjoyment you get out of it. Of course for less attractive games I am more inclined to wait or pass.

[shinobi602]

Lol @ paying full price for games.



I literally wait about a month, and sometimes 2-3 months after a game releases and get them for near $30, max around $35.

[Malanek]

kill_switch_423 wrote...

So...the complaint is that you will have to pay the same amount as us console gamers? (I'd be PC if I had the capability, but my comp is too weak... >.>

Edit:  Ok, so.... why should PC games be any cheaper? If there is a valid, factually-based reason, then go ahead and complain.  However, I see no reason that the PC version should be priced differently.

I might be completely wrong about this but I believe EA pay some levy to microsoft/sony with each copy they sell. That dopesn't happen on PCs.

[amers1015]

kill_switch_423 wrote...

So...the complaint is that you will have to pay the same amount as us console gamers? (I'd be PC if I had the capability, but my comp is too weak... >.>

Edit:  Ok, so.... why should PC games be any cheaper? If there is a valid, factually-based reason, then go ahead and complain.  However, I see no reason that the PC version should be priced differently.

They should in all fairness be $10 cheaper based on the fact that every time a console game is purchased $10 has to go immediately to Sony or MS.  There is no such issue with the PC.  So why *would* I think it's fair to pay the same price?  Console gamers chose their platforms and I chose mine.  There are added expenses with consoles that PCs don't have.  So where is the extra $10 going that they are charging PC gamers?  Do I get something that the console players don't?  If not, I fail to understand this move. 

[iggy4566]

kstarler wrote...

kill_switch_423 wrote...

So...the complaint is that you will have to pay the same amount as us console gamers? (I'd be PC if I had the capability, but my comp is too weak... >.>

The complaint is the rise in price without any appreciable rise in content. The extra price for console games has already been explained several times in this thread. There is no reason for increasing the price of the PC version of a game other than to increase the developer's profits. That is what folks are upset about.

If there were a real reason for increasing the price (other than that they can get away with it, because console games will say "Stop whining, because we already have it bad"), then there would still be complaints, but they would be fewer.

Like I said a while back it most likely isn't the final price but people overreact.

[TheBoss1138]

60 for ME 3 is no big deal for me, since I dont buy games like...ALL THE TIME like some, i have no problem :3. I spent the 80 bucks for the collectors edition for xbox and later bought the regular pc version for like...40? ill prolly do the same for this version as well lol, xbox version first pc second, mainly cause I have the main saves on my xbox...Prioritize man prioritize. What helps is what you unlock for one version you were able to get for the other, thats what helped me anyway /shrug

[charmingcharlie]

iggy4566 wrote...

Like I said a while back it most likely isn't the final price but people overreact.

Your evidence for that is what ?  I have already explained why there is good reason to believe that the $59.99 price tag will be the final price we have to pay for the PC version.  However in case you missed it firstly there is Dragon Age 2 on the PC made by Bioware and published by EA and they are charging $59.99 for the PC version.  Then there is the PC version of  Medal of Honour published by EA and sold for $59.99.

Then you have to ask yourself why a $59.99 place holder ?  PC games have been $49.99 for a fair few years.   I think it has been adequately proven that the price of Mass Effect 3 will be $59.99.  So how about you give us your reasons why you think they won't charge that price when Bioware and EA are already doing it NOW with their other products.

[Veen130]

sinosleep wrote...

Veen130 wrote...

Stop complaining, I would love to have paid $60 for ME2, over here it costed me $130 for the standard edition.

Right on cue, LOL. I suppose since Iraq has more civil rights issues than the US we should stop trying to get everyone here civil rights, right? It's a ludicrous argument. You getting even more ripped off than I am, doesn't make it right for me to get ripped off.

Iraq?!? Im from New Zealand.

[kstarler]

Veen130 wrote...

sinosleep wrote...

Veen130 wrote...

Stop complaining, I would love to have paid $60 for ME2, over here it costed me $130 for the standard edition.

Right on cue, LOL. I suppose since Iraq has more civil rights issues than the US we should stop trying to get everyone here civil rights, right? It's a ludicrous argument. You getting even more ripped off than I am, doesn't make it right for me to get ripped off.

Iraq?!? Im from New Zealand.

I don't believe Sino is saying you are from Iraq. He used Iraq as a comparison to the United States in terms of civil rights.

[Malanek]

Veen130 wrote...

sinosleep wrote...

Veen130 wrote...

Stop complaining, I would love to have paid $60 for ME2, over here it costed me $130 for the standard edition.

Right on cue, LOL. I suppose since Iraq has more civil rights issues than the US we should stop trying to get everyone here civil rights, right? It's a ludicrous argument. You getting even more ripped off than I am, doesn't make it right for me to get ripped off.

Iraq?!? Im from New Zealand.

Why did you pay so much for it?

[sinosleep]

kstarler wrote...

I don't believe Sino is saying you are from Iraq. He used Iraq as a comparison to the United States in terms of civil rights.

Exactly, I was making an example that just because something is even more screwed up some where else (prices in New Zealand are even more outrageous than in the US) it doesn't mean we should stop working towards stopping something not quite as jacked up here.

You pay through the nose for games in New Zealand, that doesn't mean getting screwed out of 10 bucks in the states is suddenly A ok because of it.

No more so than civil rights being attrocious in Iraq has any bearing on fighting for more civil rights here in the US.

Modifié par sinosleep, 12 janvier 2011 - 03:43 .

[cachx]

charmingcharlie wrote...
PC games have been $49.99 for a fair few years.

Did you expect that they would stay at that price until the end of time?

I can understand getting angry, but come on, things get raised in price all the time.

[charmingcharlie]

cachx wrote...

Did you expect that they would stay at that price until the end of time?

I can understand getting angry, but come on, things get raised in price all the time.

Then why hasn't the console version gone up to $70 ?  In reality I could easily afford the $60 they are asking BUT the reason the PC version has always been $10 cheaper is because of the console royalty fee (how many times does this have to be said ?).  There should always be a $10 difference between the PC version and the Console version because $10 of the console price goes straight to the console manufacturer, the PC has no such royalty fee.

Do I expect PC games to stay at $49.99 forever ?  no of course I don't but I expect them to be $49.99 whilst console games are $59.99.  The day they raise console prices to $69.99 then that will be the day I will be prepared to pay $59.99 on the PC.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 12 janvier 2011 - 03:49 .