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[sinosleep]

GODzilla_GSPB wrote...

*ten years later*

"It's 100 friggin dollars. Why would any sane person deprive themselves ME3 just to make an idiotic point?"

Funny. Or sad? I guess both, depends if you're the receiver or spender.

This man knows what he's talking about. I HATE when people take the stance of "it's just X" on these types of things. You give these greedy clowns an inch and sooner or later they WILL take a mile.

Modifié par sinosleep, 25 décembre 2010 - 01:13 .

[BiancoAngelo7]

Just wait for the Special Edition when it comes out. Right now anyone and everyone who lets you preorder is just trying to capitalize and take advantage of people wanting anything that is ME3, in this case the feeling that you have the game because you preordered it.



So just use some good old fashion patience.

[Balek-Vriege]

I remember paying $69-$79 for non-collector edition games about 10-15 years ago so the prices returning to $59.99 is just not a big deal for me. I do reconize however that everyone has different economic situations and diffferent spending habits. If ME3 turned out to be a 10 hour game with very little improvements then I would be mad. The fact is the end product will probably be the opposite with the quality and quantity of content within the game being well worth $59.99. If any franchise could explain why their product costs 10 dollars more, it would be Mass Effect with all the voice acting, epic writing, heavy content work, attention to detail etc.

[Schneidend]

ITT: EA-Bioware expects a return on their investment into a multi-million dollar game and that just isn't cool with some people.

[sinosleep]

Schneidend wrote...

ITT: EA-Bioware expects a return on their investment into a multi-million dollar game and that just isn't cool with some people.

Could not possibly be more wrong, but ok.

[kstarler]

Balek-Vriege wrote...

I remember paying $69-$79 for non-collector edition games about 10-15 years ago so the prices returning to $59.99 is just not a big deal for me. I do reconize however that everyone has different economic situations and diffferent spending habits. If ME3 turned out to be a 10 hour game with very little improvements then I would be mad. The fact is the end product will probably be the opposite with the quality and quantity of content within the game being well worth $59.99. If any franchise could explain why their product costs 10 dollars more, it would be Mass Effect with all the voice acting, epic writing, heavy content work, attention to detail etc.

Are you talking USD? Because I've been gaming on both PC and console since the late 80's, and before this year I only remember a couple of standard issue games (Ultima Online and some game that came with a huge console) that were priced more than $50 here in the states.

[ThePatriot101]

*sigh*



I'm only gonna say this because this thread is ridiculous and I'm tired of wading in a pool of pettiness.



It's ten f****** dollars. It's TEN F******** DOLLARS! The game is a year away. Twelve months 'til launch. That means saving up those ten dollars requires you to put aside less than ONE DOLLAR every month until then. Simple economics.



I get your supposed "principle" about sticking it to the greedy corporations who only want your money because it's their only means of survival as a company in a capitalistic system. Curse them for wanting more simply because they want to do other things which requires money and not some mystical currency that's traded in the dark corners of the video game industry. But the principle is weak when you're paying no more than the rest of us to get the same game.



I shed a tear you'll have to churn out as much as us console gamers. And in my case you're still paying less than me because I'm getting the $150 version.



This thread is as petty as all of those other threads that were complaining about $2 DLC. I can't help but ask who is more greedy: the company charging a price most other gamers already pay or the [PC] customer complaining over a marginal price increase that doesn't put them above the console game's price.



It's too early to start complaining about Mass Effect 3. Seriously. And this complaint isn't about the game either.

[sinosleep]

We ARE paying more. God damn why is that so ****ing hard to understand for you people?

You pay 49.99 for the game and 10.00 to sony or microsoft for the privilege of using their consoles.

We pay 49.99 for the game and 10.00 to **** knows why because these ****ing leeches want more money.

Console gamers are getting something for their 10 dollars, PC GAMERS AREN'T.

That clear enough for ya?

All this woe is me nonsense about the publishers in question is just that, nonsense. Particularly when they already make more money from digital distribution in the PC market any way.

Modifié par sinosleep, 25 décembre 2010 - 04:31 .

[Schneidend]

You're paying the 10.00 because EA-Bioware thinks the vast majority of us are willing to pay that much for their product, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they're right.

You don't honestly think companies determine the price of their goods and services based on how much something is "worth," I hope. No, they charge what they believe we are willing to pay and if on the off chance they turn out to be wrong they will adjust the price accordingly.

This is fairly basic economics, here.

Modifié par Schneidend, 25 décembre 2010 - 04:35 .

[sinosleep]

I guess they flunked basic economics for the better part of the last 5 years when PC games continued to be 49.99 while console games sold for 59.99 for the perfectly valid reason of licensing. This price hike is a fairly recent development lead primarily by Activision and EA. Two companies known for being run by greedy ****s.

Modifié par sinosleep, 25 décembre 2010 - 04:41 .

[Schneidend]

Publishers? Changing the way they do things? Unheard of!

[archurban]

two words.



get over.

[Agamemnon2589]

I'm actually going to have to side with the PC gamers on this one, even though I own ME for the 360. I can't stand the fact that companies are charging more for PC games now. Pissed me off with Starcraft 2 (TOTALLY not worth $60, by the way) and were I buying ME3 for the PC, it would ****** me off here as well.

[Ryzaki]

The good thing is PC games tend to go down in price pretty quickly so just wait a month or two. I will.

[Chala]

the best thing to do: Just wait 1 month and steam will offer the game for half the price (it's an exageration, but you get the idea )

[headphones]

Honestly sinosleep and charmingcharlie, you two must have the patience of saints. While reading through this thread I cannot tell you how many times I facepalmed at the useless comments that completely miss the point about the discussion.

"omgz its only 10 freeeking moar dollarz, wut r u poor?? rofl"

^ This kind of 'lap-dog consumer' mentality is exactly what greedy, price-gouging corporations in EVERY INDUSTRY (not just gaming) want people to assume. Increasing the price for no reason other than that they can get away with it. It's a slippery slope; one that, ostensibly, many in this thread have already succumbed to.

"lol sukk it pc users stop whining" - console players

^ I'm guessing the rationale here is that "If I've already been screwed, I'm not gonna shed any tears for those who are now getting screwed." I can empathize with that sentiment. However, this issue goes beyond resentment towards PC players supposedly (but not actually) paying less for the same product. The gouging of PC players will only feed the fire for companies to pursue more sordid schemings to gouge everyone (yes, including the console players) in the future. Don't think of this as a "PC vs console" situation; this is a consumer vs company situation. We are all consumers, and if one group of us gets screwed, mark my words, the rest will follow suit as well.

Of course, I'm just as cynical as the rest of you. I know there is little-to-nothing we can do about it, since the majority of people seem to downplay price increases with some silly comparison like "$10? oh, it's only the price of a lunch! are you that cheap???". But it's sad to see consumers turning on each other and feeling resentment towards one another when it should be a collective opposition towards the company/ies.

[The Smoking Man]

sinosleep wrote...

GODzilla_GSPB wrote...

*ten years later*

"It's 100 friggin dollars. Why would any sane person deprive themselves ME3 just to make an idiotic point?"

Funny. Or sad? I guess both, depends if you're the receiver or spender. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

This
man knows what he's talking about. I HATE when people take the stance
of "it's just X" on these types of things. You give these greedy clowns
an inch and sooner or later they WILL take a mile.

This.

headphones wrote...

Honestly sinosleep and charmingcharlie, you two must have the patience of saints. While reading through this thread I cannot tell you how many times I facepalmed at the useless comments that completely miss the point about the discussion.

"omgz its only 10 freeeking moar dollarz, wut r u poor?? rofl"

^ This kind of 'lap-dog consumer' mentality is exactly what greedy, price-gouging corporations in EVERY INDUSTRY (not just gaming) want people to assume. Increasing the price for no reason other than that they can get away with it. It's a slippery slope; one that, ostensibly, many in this thread have already succumbed to.

"lol sukk it pc users stop whining" - console players

^ I'm guessing the rationale here is that "If I've already been screwed, I'm not gonna shed any tears for those who are now getting screwed." I can empathize with that sentiment. However, this issue goes beyond resentment towards PC players supposedly (but not actually) paying less for the same product. The gouging of PC players will only feed the fire for companies to pursue more sordid schemings to gouge everyone (yes, including the console players) in the future. Don't think of this as a "PC vs console" situation; this is a consumer vs company situation. We are all consumers, and if one group of us gets screwed, mark my words, the rest will follow suit as well.

Of course, I'm just as cynical as the rest of you. I know there is little-to-nothing we can do about it, since the majority of people seem to downplay price increases with some silly comparison like "$10? oh, it's only the price of a lunch! are you that cheap???". But it's sad to see consumers turning on each other and feeling resentment towards one another when it should be a collective opposition towards the company/ies.

And this.

I'll be trolololololing at all you people who don't think the price is an issue when your games start getting price hiked further, not sympathizing with you. Enjoy your $100+ games, coming soon!

Modifié par The Smoking Man, 25 décembre 2010 - 09:01 .

[ralph2190]

Uhh OP you're worried that the D2D price is priced too much at $60? Use promo code: "bahhumbug" and get ME3 for $44.96. Problem solved.

[sinosleep]

headphones wrote...

^ I'm guessing the rationale here is that "If I've already been screwed, I'm not gonna shed any tears for those who are now getting screwed." I can empathize with that sentiment. However, this issue goes beyond resentment towards PC players supposedly (but not actually) paying less for the same product. The gouging of PC players will only feed the fire for companies to pursue more sordid schemings to gouge everyone (yes, including the console players) in the future. Don't think of this as a "PC vs console" situation; this is a consumer vs company situation. We are all consumers, and if one group of us gets screwed, mark my words, the rest will follow suit as well.

As the old saying goes



"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out.

Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out.

Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out.

And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."



It's not an issue of entitlement, and it's not a damn console war. I seriously can not believe that more people aren't taking a "hey there are people getting screwed we should do something approach" instead of all this "well you aren't getting any more screwed than we are" even though, yeah, we kinda are.

Modifié par sinosleep, 25 décembre 2010 - 09:33 .

[SithLordExarKun]

ThePatriot101 wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote...

ThePatriot101 wrote...

Here's a thought: save up those extra $10 over the course of the next 11 months.  That's less than a dollar a month so you can afford a $60-ME3 instead of a $50-ME3.  Is it really so hard to save an extra $10?

Yet another poster that completely misses the point why some are against paying the same price as console gamers.  If you are going to take part in a topic at least do the decency of READING some posts regarding why we are objecting to paying such a price.  It has nothing to do with being able to afford the $60 and everything to do with the fact we are being asked to pay the same price as console gamers when there are extra costs for console gamers but not PC gamers.

Uh...and?  What, does the fact that you PC people are forced to come down to OUR level for the same game offend you?  Is it an insult for you PC gamers to have to pay the same price as us console gamers?  Is it such a polarizing issue that it really deserves a ruckus in the way of things?  As far as I know, putting the game on the shelf carries the same costs whether it's PS3, Xbox 360, or PC.  And since the marginal cost of paying an extra $10 this far out from release is pretty small, there really isn't an economic reason to complain.

Gee, you people have to ride the bus and pay the same fare as the rest of us console gamers.  What a travesty.

Maybe you guys could, just a thought, WAIT until it gets closer to launch so that more reliable information has a chance to, oh I don't know, actually be released?  They don't even have the details of the uber version out yet.

Though $10 says you types would be partying in the streets if the price gets pulled back for you PC gamers.

Typical xbot elitism.

[TheMiroHa]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Typical xbot elitism.

How so? I thought he made a very good point.

And I know this isn't completely about the price but still, 10$, come on. We Europeans already have to pay about that much more since PC games cost ~50€ and console games ~60€ or more.

Modifié par TheMiroHa, 25 décembre 2010 - 09:52 .

[sinosleep]

TheMiroHa wrote...


How so? I thought he made a very good point.

And I know this isn't completely about the price but still, 10$, come on. We Europeans already have to pay about that much more since PC games cost ~50€ and console games ~60€ or more.

He has no point.

For the millionth time.

Console gamers pay the 10 extra dollars FOR A REASON. Console makers charge developers to make games for their consoles, developers pass that fee on to the consumer. Your costs are

49.99 for the game
10.00 for it being on a console

PC gamers have no such fee to be passed on to them. As such, we would be paying 10 dollars extra for exactly
NOTHING. My costs are

49.99 for the game
10:00 for no good reason whatsoever

Do you not see the difference between paying 10 extra dollars due to liscensing fees, and paying 10 extra dollars for no reason at all? 

p.s. You shot your own arguement in the foot any way by stating the fact that you have price differences between PC games and console games in your country as well.

Modifié par sinosleep, 25 décembre 2010 - 09:59 .

[marshalleck]

I rarely see games actually being priced at MSRP anyways, there's almost always a retailer discount available somewhere if you look around. Stop freaking out, the game isn't even going to be available for another year, who knows what it will actually cost then.

[TheMiroHa]

sinosleep wrote...

TheMiroHa wrote...


How so? I thought he made a very good point.

And I know this isn't completely about the price but still, 10$, come on. We Europeans already have to pay about that much more since PC games cost ~50€ and console games ~60€ or more.

He has no point.

For the millionth time.

Console gamers pay the 10 extra dollars FOR A REASON. Console makers charge developers to make games for their consoles, developers pass that fee on to the consumer. Your costs are

49.99 for the game
10.00 for it being on a console

PC gamers have no such fee to be passed on to them. As such, we would be paying 10 dollars extra for exactly
NOTHING. My costs are

49.99 for the game
10:00 for no good reason whatsoever

Do you not see the difference between paying 10 extra dollars due to liscensing fees, and paying 10 extra dollars for no reason at all? 

p.s. You shot your own arguement in the foot any way by stating the fact that you have price differences between PC games and console games in your country as well.

Well I was just saying that I don't see why it's such a big deal, especially since you get it cheaper than us Europeans anyway...

And I responded to that "typical Xbox elitism" because in my opinion he was fairly neutral and not biased in his post.

Modifié par TheMiroHa, 25 décembre 2010 - 10:16 .