Seriously, guys, it doesn't matter; as cool as it would be if this story was true, it clearly isn't. Some fanboy is just trying to justify his opinions of the game by going "My grandfather says paragon is better than renegade and he was in World War II so he's right!"
Do you all honestly believe an 80-year-old man is watching recorded RPG conversations and not only enjoying it but understanding it thoroughly enough to discuss the same points 20-something video game nerds argue about on the Internet? Because those are the only people who would say "a retarded chimp wrote the reuinion [sic] with Shepard." How many casual gamers would have that kind of complaint about Ashley/Kaiden's behavior on Horizon? How many octogenarians whose only experience with the
Mass Effect universe is watching somebody else play the game? Why would the OP even mention how his grandfather thought Kaiden and Ashley were stark contrasts to each other right before he marches out the critcism of Horizon? Could it be because the biggest complaint about that scene was how those characters were written as if they were interchangeable? And hey, look, a WWII veteran thinks that scene was poorly written, too, so it must be!
Grandpa says that Tali was "so unsure of herself and meek in the first one (ME1).. but being near Shepard gave her some strength and confidence later on (ME2)." You people
know how big a fan of the games you'd have to be to have an opinion like that. BioWare games have comparatively great writing, but they're still mass market video games; we're not talking
Citizen Kane levels of character nuance here. Any 80-year-old man watching someone play these games most likely wouldn't even recognize Tali as a distinct character, in the first place, but even if he did, there's no way he would be aware of any discernible difference in her character from one game to the next. I love Tali, Tali is my favorite character in the franchise, but she honestly isn't really written that differently between games. These aren't movies, people, no matter how cinematically they're presented. If you have no experience with video games, you're going to have very little interest in these characters, especially if your only connection to them is recorded gameplay footage of a third party exploring their dialogue trees. Do you really think someone in his eighties would be so intellectually engaged by watching cartoons with a handful of preset body motions and facial expressions talk at each other for hours?
Do any of you have any experience interacting with people from this age group? Even if the OP's supposed grandfather was only 18 when he landed on Juno Beach, he'd be 84 today. In all likelihood, he would have been a few years older. A man who is pushing 90 is not sitting there watching his full-grown grandson play a video game for three hours straight (as the OP claims happened when he showcased several alternative renegade options), then offering thoughtful critical analysis. I'm sorry, but no matter how cool your grandfather is, this just does not happen. This doesn't happen either:
"We had ****s like that in the war, boy. Commanding officers who behaved like that in the field often found themselves inexplicably alone in a field... your history books only tell you about the so-called 'glory', boy... they don't tell you that these soldiers were humans... with morale.. and fear... and when you treated free men like cattle, not all would take it quiet... the history books don't tell you of CO's who were mysteriously left alone in enemy territory... or found a bullet in the ass from an 'accidental' rifle discharge."
That's not how old people talk. That's how young people imagine they talk. If you actually know a World War II veteran in real life, there's a nine-out-of-ten chance that he doesn't spout off platitudes about glory and humanity and the breadth of his experience at the drop of a hat. He's probably just a normal old guy who hardly ever talks about the war. There's even a good chance he doesn't
like talking about it (hard to believe, I know). It should go without saying that this isn't always the case, but even if the OP's hypothetical grandfather did love talking about his war experiences, he still wouldn't have any interest in video games, because that's even less likely than someone actually saying Grandpa's dialogue in real life.
Argue about which type of character would better command the respect and loyalty of his troops in real life if you want, but let's leave the anecdotal evidence of a fictional grandfather out of the equation, okay? Like I said, it'd be a cool story if it was true, but you people are acting as if this something so profound and awesome when it's just some guy taking you for a ride.
Modifié par Conestoga Joe, 26 décembre 2010 - 07:33 .
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And I'm not merely using semantics - I'm trying to be very logical and as explicitly clear about what I know and what I don't know - you on the other hand seem to be basing your whole argument against the OP on your own experiences of people you've met and an assumption that others are "likely" the same and substituting that for a lack of knowledge of the OP, which is inherently illogical. 
