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[Pedro Costa]

As long as they'd publish a non-3D ready version 20$ cheaper, sure, why not?

Oh, and that such a gimmick (as it is all it really is) didn't impact the game's quality in story, characters and gameplay.

[Pedro Costa]

dammit, double post -.-

Modifié par DarkLord_PT, 25 décembre 2010 - 09:06 .

[james-mac-paddywack]

OP should move to Australia... we've been paying $120 as an rrp.

[Gaxe]

The reason I push for 3D so much is because it looks amazing. NVIDIA 3D Vision has done an excellent job.

The requirements for 3D are so miniscule:

- allow us to make crosshair transparent
- allow us to disable special effects, shadows, lens flare (if needed)

That's it.  I'd be willing to pay $20.00 extra if they would just do this bare minimum.

I don't understand why a lot of you think 3D is a fraud. It's an insult to my standards and intelligence.  When I put on the NVIDIA 3d Vision glasses and play Mass Effect it enhances the gameplay 10 fold.

* You can sense the mass of objects around you.
* When you see a chair and table you can feel the urge to sit down.
* When you look at plant life, it looks just so damn real.
* Looking at the fountains with water shooting up is amazing.
* You are completely immersed into the game.
* You can look into the distance and see people walking about far away which is very neat.
* When in a conversation you sense true depth of how far away they are from you.
* When sheparad raises her gun and points it at an enemy you get a neat popout effect.

NVIDIA 3D VIsion is not a gimmick.  When it first came out it had a lot of problems but NVIDIA fixed them. When you go underground and the ambient music is playing you feel very immersed. It's crazy how good it is. Dragon Age looks VERY good in 3D.

[SteelerWayne]

I got no problems with them making a separate 3D version of the game. But I prefer the standard version thank you. Between TVs, movies, and games this whole 3D craze has gotten totally out of hand IMO.

[Atmosfear3]

Hey geniuses, just because a game is 3D ready it doesn't mean you actually have to play the game in 3D.



MIND BLOWING I KNOW.

[Fredvdp]

Can't you just remove the crosshair using Texmod?

[Gaxe]

scyphozoa wrote...

1 hour of additional content in ME3 is more valuable to me than the entire game in 3d.

Sorry, 3D, you won't be relevant for years.

3D is relevant now, I take it you already tried NVIDIA 3D Vision with a 120hz monitor?  Did you try it yet?

Fredvdp wrote...

Can't you just remove the crosshair using Texmod?

Hmmm I downloaded this program and tried it. EVERY single texture in Mass Effect lit up green EXCEPT the crosshair.  THe crosshair must be dynamically generated during runtime given the nature of it shrinking and expanding constantly. That sucks.... What a cool program texmod is.

Modifié par Gaxe, 26 décembre 2010 - 12:05 .

[Gaxe]

scyphozoa wrote...

Gaxe wrote...
3D is relevant now

To you, but not to enough people. It will be relevant to the industry as a whole within 5-10 years. Look at 3D tv sales, they are not selling well and without a demographic to market to, the feature would be a misappropriation of resources.

3D TV's are complete garbage. I'm talking about NVIDIA 3D vision for PC games.

[Gaxe]

scyphozoa wrote...

Gaxe wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

Gaxe wrote...
3D is relevant now

To you, but not to enough people. It will be relevant to the industry as a whole within 5-10 years. Look at 3D tv sales, they are not selling well and without a demographic to market to, the feature would be a misappropriation of resources.

3D TV's are complete garbage. I'm talking about NVIDIA 3D vision for PC games.

Thats fine, my point is that 3d tech has not been embraced by the masses and will not be for years to come. Until then, it would be a misappropriation of resources to invest in a feature that will go mostly unused. 

Being able to turn off or a set a crosshairs transparency is not too much to ask.  It should take no longer than 2 minutes. It's such a minor thing.  That's pretty much all we're asking for.

[adam_grif]

I already paid 129.99 Australian for ME2 which was not 3D ready. So yes, I would pay 79.99 for a 3D ready ME3, considering it's less than what I am expecting to pay anyway, by a considerable margin. As far as the 3D features are concerned, I don't care, the number of people who can actually take advantage of it is minimal at best.

[Gaxe]

scyphozoa wrote...

3D ready != (does not equal) crosshair transparency toggles.

3D ready is the topic of this thread, and yet now it is just about a crosshair toggle.

zzz

That's my point, that's exactly my point.

Most of the time to make a game 3D ready is to simple let us turn off that atrocious crosshair and let us use NVIDIA's built in one.

See how easy it is to make a 3D ready title?! 

[supakillaii]

Packa wrote...

If ME3 uses 3D at all I wont buy it. I'm not going to help technology advance in the wrong direction.

Personally, this.

[ak4115]

supakillaii wrote...

Packa wrote...

If ME3 uses 3D at all I wont buy it. I'm not going to help technology advance in the wrong direction.

Personally, this.

ur so dumb for a finn.

[SalsaDMA]

supakillaii wrote...

Packa wrote...

If ME3 uses 3D at all I wont buy it. I'm not going to help technology advance in the wrong direction.

Personally, this.

Afraid of the reapers guiding your technology?


And it's a silly comment to 'not use it', btw. Any game using 3d objects are already supporting it, so you should stop buying games using 3d textures at all if you don't want to 'use' it.

The differences that are needed to make it a flawless represetation, and 'just proper 3d with minor flaws' are minor, and mostly about being able to remove displaying the offending visual effects. Like a crosshair that is displayed on top of everything regardless of what it is 'aiming' at. Or dynamic lighting that comes from both the left and the right side at the same time.

[Deathwurm]

I'm really opposed to the whole "3D Mania" that's going on right now...

Movies and Television (and I'm putting Games like ME & DA in the same category because they are so story driven) are 2D media...3D is a gimmick and changes the way "product" is produced...

What you end up with are vehicles that are only there to play off the gimmick and trade substance to do so...

Want 3D? Take your eyes off the Screen! lol

[Gaxe]

The Hobbit is being filmed in 3D.

No thanks you to morons.

[Mister Mida]

I'll pay that much money for a CE. Wether it has 3D or not, I don't care. Howerver, if it's gonna compromise the amount/quality of the game itself, I'll kick 3D out of the window right now.

[Gaxe]

Mister Mida wrote...

I'll pay that much money for a CE. Wether it has 3D or not, I don't care. Howerver, if it's gonna compromise the amount/quality of the game itself, I'll kick 3D out of the window right now.

I assume you already tried NVIDIA 3D Vision, you didn't like it?

[Pacifien]

Sorry, no one is allowed to call other people on these forums morons.

[Mister Mida]

Gaxe wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

I'll pay that much money for a CE. Wether it has 3D or not, I don't care. Howerver, if it's gonna compromise the amount/quality of the game itself, I'll kick 3D out of the window right now.

I assume you already tried NVIDIA 3D Vision, you didn't like it?

Assuming that's some kind of graphics card for the PC, no I haven't. I wasn't planning on playing ME3 on PC when I've played the previous games on XBox 360. Neither am I gonna spend a 1000+ euros on a new tv for the sake of 3D.

But my experience with 3D is that you'll eventually forget about it very fast. So if I need to make the choice, I'll take more/quality content over 3D. So far I've read Sony and others had some interesting plans concerning 3D, but I guess those won't be seen by the public for at least until after ME3 got released.