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What's the general consensus on Mass Effect 2?


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GothamKnight129

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I don't know about you guys but I just like Mass Effect 2 because of those trigger icons that you can push if you wanna interrupt a conversation. (I think Miranda's mission probably had the most entertaining interruption icons, by the way.) Those paragon and renegade icons sort of look like something that you might find in a Shenmue game and that's why I like them. It sort of makes me wish that whoever owned the right to Shenmue would allow BioWare to make the remaining chapters of Shenmue into a video game(s)

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I'm guessing the general consensus is that it's a great game. Notice how nearly everyone likes or loves the game outside of these forums. The forums here can be a bit harsh towards ME2 but then again, that's pretty typical for a developer forum.

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General concensus is, that ME 2 is awesome game.



...but not so awesome sequel.

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DarthCaine

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Here some of the most voted polls on this site:

Disappointed with Mass Effect 2?
http://social.biowar...093/polls/1659/
Disappointed - 20%, Not Disappointed - 80%

Mass Effect 1 vs Mass Effect 2
http://social.biowar...596/polls/1670/
Mass Effect 1 - 37%, Mass Effect 2 - 63%

http://social.biowar...596/polls/4081/

GameSpot User Scores:
ME1: 9.1 360, 8.9 PC
ME2: 9.4 360, 9.3 PC

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Darth Caine saves the day!

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Babli wrote...

General concensus is, that ME 2 is awesome game.

...but not so awesome sequel.

This would be my opinion as well.

Also, what Darth posted should be taken into consideration.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 26 décembre 2010 - 01:30 .


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Babli wrote...

General concensus is, that ME 2 is awesome game.

...but not so awesome sequel.


Pretty much this.

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DarthCaine wrote...

Here some of the most voted polls on this site:

Disappointed with Mass Effect 2?
http://social.biowar...093/polls/1659/
Disappointed - 20%, Not Disappointed - 80%

Mass Effect 1 vs Mass Effect 2
http://social.biowar...596/polls/1670/
Mass Effect 1 - 37%, Mass Effect 2 - 63%

http://social.biowar...596/polls/4081/

GameSpot User Scores:
ME1: 9.1 360, 8.9 PC
ME2: 9.4 360, 9.3 PC


And yet the polls are from February, when Mass Effect 2 was brand new and we were still "lol"-ed by it. I prefer to look at things in perspective. 

Yes, it is a great game. As a sequel, it's decent. But it's not better than the original, to the contrary (except on a technical level). I'd say make the polls again a couple of months before Mass Effect 3 comes so that the forums will once again be buzzing with activity and enough time will have passed since ME2's release, and you may get different results. 

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Fantastic expansion game. Weak sequel. The general consensus by word of the Internet is while the Recruitment/Loyal missions are some of the best in gaming. The main plot of ME2 is relatively weak and inferior to its predecessor. Gameplay wise, ME2 is the superior product but could use a little more customization, specifically in upgrades.



Oh and no helmet toggle sucks.

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Burdokva wrote...

And yet the polls are from February, when Mass Effect 2 was brand new and we were still "lol"-ed by it. I prefer to look at things in perspective. 

Yes, it is a great game. As a sequel, it's decent. But it's not better than the original, to the contrary (except on a technical level). I'd say make the polls again a couple of months before Mass Effect 3 comes so that the forums will once again be buzzing with activity and enough time will have passed since ME2's release, and you may get different results.

Those polls were made specifically because the vocal minority of haters insisted they were the majority.  Back then there were even more haters. You create as many polls as you want, you'll get the same results, and arrogant users still won't admit anything.

BTW, it wasn't till April that I got a lot of votes on the ME1 vs ME2 poll. Back then ME1 had 40%, and every month it's getting less and less

Modifié par DarthCaine, 26 décembre 2010 - 02:35 .


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DarthCaine wrote...

Burdokva wrote...

And yet the polls are from February, when Mass Effect 2 was brand new and we were still "lol"-ed by it. I prefer to look at things in perspective. 

Yes, it is a great game. As a sequel, it's decent. But it's not better than the original, to the contrary (except on a technical level). I'd say make the polls again a couple of months before Mass Effect 3 comes so that the forums will once again be buzzing with activity and enough time will have passed since ME2's release, and you may get different results.

Those polls were made specifically because the vocal minority of haters insisted they were the majority.  Back then there were even more haters. You create as many polls as you want, you'll get the same results, and arrogant users still won't admit anything.

That´s not true. People change their opinions all the time. If you asked me in February if I like ME 1 or ME 2 I would say ME 2. But today I´m definitely ME 1 positive.
+ there are a lot of people (according to stats from Bioware even 50%!) who didnt play first ME.

Modifié par Babli, 26 décembre 2010 - 02:34 .


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Mister Mida

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General concensus? I don't know, that it is the second coming of Christ or something.

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The general consensus is that ME2 is one the greatest games ever made

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In reader's choice awards such as those on Gamespot, G4, Screw Attack and the Golden Joystick awards it has either won game of the year or come in second.

So I'd say the consensus is pretty damn positive.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 27 décembre 2010 - 06:29 .


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Legion is still in the process of building a consensus.



...oh, wait...

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I like the universe of Mass Effect, the main plot isn't why I play the game(With all it's plotholes you'd think it was made of swiss cheese). BioWare has created a very unique and easy to immerse in universe. I hope after Shepard's trilogy ends they continue to build with the universe they created. I think it is fair to say this game has it's flaws, but in general it is fantastic, and deserving of it's honors.

Modifié par strive, 27 décembre 2010 - 06:53 .


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As a game it was better, but here's where it gets hard as i liked mass effect 1 a lot more for some reason. Could be the story

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It was a very well done game but had a weak story and did a poor job with our choices.

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Great game.

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Babli wrote...

General concensus is, that ME 2 is awesome game.

...but not so awesome sequel.


My thoughts exactly.

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double post, see below

Modifié par kmcd5722, 27 décembre 2010 - 07:15 .


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It was a very good game, but at least a few of the first game's strengths were diminished or removed from ME2. Some would call this "streamlining", but the end result was a sequel that had less depth than it's predecessor.

I think the general consensus from blogs and forums that actually discuss the game indepth (not two-cent comments by random people writing about how they liked or disliked the game) is that Mass Effect 2's improvements were a mixed blessing. It was streamlined, but a lot of it's depth and personality was lost in translation, as well as a large part of it's immersion.

Edit: of course, it goes without saying that the combat mechanics, despite going against the writers' lore somewhat, are much better in ME2.

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DarthCaine wrote...

You create as many polls as you want, you'll get the same results, and arrogant users still won't admit anything.


Sound pretty damn arrogant  yourself.  Just because some people prefer ME1 doesn't make all of them haters.  And there is also a small fraction of those within those who preferred ME1 more that see themselves being outvoiced by the overwhelming majority of praise for ME2, and thus refuse to back down.  This is often interpreted as hating, and I can see why.  But not all of it is, as some just prefer the original, and offer their criticism constructively to see a positive change for ME3, versus simply "hating on ME2" because they have nothing better to do but to be snobs, as you so infer.  Next time, watch the generalities, and be open to criticism if you want to dish it.

Personally, I loved ME2 for the combat fluidity and introduction of some pretty cool characters (not all, and I say "introduction to characters", as some really didn't fill a unique role or have an extended background).  I disliked it for its short main story (I personally don't count the recruitment missions as story, more like filler, although some of the loyalties were interesting), linear exploration, and loss of RPG customization (armor, stats, weapons, etc. I know many didn't like the inventory, as it was pretty annoying omni-geling everything, but I still preferred the modded weapons and armor).  

Anyways, OP, most people like ME2.  I for one, liked ME1 better, simply because it was a better "experience." Almost transcendent, if you will.  

Modifié par kmcd5722, 27 décembre 2010 - 07:16 .


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kmcd5722 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

You create as many polls as you want, you'll get the same results, and arrogant users still won't admit anything.


Sound pretty damn arrogant  yourself.  Just because some people prefer ME1 doesn't make all of them haters.  And there is also a small fraction of those within those who preferred ME1 more that see themselves being outvoiced by the overwhelming majority of praise for ME2, and thus refuse to back down.  This is often interpreted as hating, and I can see why.  But not all of it is, as some just prefer the original, and offer their criticism constructively to see a positive change for ME3, versus simply "hating on ME2" because they have nothing better to do but to be snobs, as you so infer.  Next time, watch the generalities, and be open to criticism if you want to dish it.

Personally, I loved ME2 for the combat fluidity and introduction of some pretty cool characters (not all, and I say "introduction to characters", as some really didn't fill a unique role or have an extended background).  I disliked it for its short main story (I personally don't count the recruitment missions as story, more like filler, although some of the loyalties were interesting), linear exploration, and loss of RPG customization (armor, stats, weapons, etc. I know many didn't like the inventory, as it was pretty annoying omni-geling everything, but I still preferred the modded weapons and armor).  

Anyways, OP, most people like ME2.  I for one, liked ME1 better, simply because it was a better "experience." Almost transcendent, if you will.  

Well done post. :wizard: