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[slimgrin]

Saibh wrote...

Honestly, every time someone mentions The Witcher 2 on these forums, I hate it just a bit more. I'm so sick of it being compared to DA2, when the things people complain about in this game are features of TW2.

Don't hate, Saibh. 

It might just end up being a game you enjoy. And CD red, like Bioware, is one of few devs making story-driven RPG's. Comparisons are inevitable.

Modifié par slimgrin, 26 décembre 2010 - 09:07 .

[Maria Caliban]

Piecake wrote...

I'm just curious, how was Oblivion foundational when Morrowind came before it?  I admit, I did not get very far in Oblivion(sandbox games bore me), but I didnt see anything all that different from Morrowind.

Oblivion was almost the same as Morrowind while being completely different.

[Icinix]

Whatever your views on the MOST anticipated games for 2011; It's only fair to say that 2011 looks set to be a HUGE year for gamers.



It looks like quite literally like I'll be playing a new awesome game every month or two...and that is certainly fine to me.



Slightly off topic, but what I am hanging out for most in ANTICIPATION is to see the results of GOG's Witcher 2 sales. DRM FREE FTW!

[Loup Blanc]

D34dw4lk3r wrote...

With all due respect to Bioware and Dragon Age franchise, I think that The Witcher 2 will not have any competition at all.

This. The Witcher 2 is going to kick ass.

[thatbwoyblu]

GodWood wrote...

thatbwoyblu wrote...
I say Mass Effect 3 is the most anticipated single player game of 2011.But so much can go wrong with ME3.All I know is that if your decisions from the past 2 games dont make a difference in ME3 Bioware is gonna get hounded by the critics. Gears of War 3 is the most anticipated game of 2011 Period. I have a feeling that Gears of war 3 will be the highest selling game of 2011 because its multiplayer is too damn epic.

Yeah, no.
GoW3 is exclusive to Xbox 360 thus can't compete with multiplatform games.
I personally think it'll be TESV:S.

Dont underestimate the power of 360 gamers.

[In Exile]

slimgrin wrote...

It might just end up being a game you enjoy. And CD red, like Bioware, is one of few devs making story-driven RPG's. Comparisons are inevitable.

If it's stable, it will be a great game. The Witcher was not a stable game (it compared unfavourably to Obsidian releases for me) in terms of crashes and potentially game-breaking errors. Who knows what they will end up doing with a new engine.

That being said, I have to echo the sentiment if only the idea that the Witcher, which takes all of the features panned in DA2 by many (i.e. PC VO, paraphrase, action-RPG combat) and takes it up a notch gets praise as "saving'' RPGs.

[DarthCaine]

In Exile wrote...

The Witcher was not a stable game (it compared unfavourably to Obsidian releases for me) in terms of crashes and potentially game-breaking errors.

How dare you! NOBODY makes more bugs than Obisidan!

At least CD Projekt fixed their game very quickly. Obisidan creates more bugs with each patch

[Brockololly]

In Exile wrote...

If it's stable, it will be a great game. The Witcher was not a stable game (it compared unfavourably to Obsidian releases for me) in terms of crashes and potentially game-breaking errors. Who knows what they will end up doing with a new engine.

But the nice thing with CD Projekt and the Witcher was that while it was broken at launch, they didn't just give up on it but rather patched the hell out of it and upgraded everyone to the Enhanced Edition later on for free. Thats pretty awesome.

[GodWood]

thatbwoyblu wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Yeah, no.
GoW3 is exclusive to Xbox 360 thus can't compete with multiplatform games.
I personally think it'll be TESV:S.

Dont underestimate the power of 360 gamers.

360 gamers will be buying Skyrim too.

Modifié par GodWood, 26 décembre 2010 - 10:22 .

[slimgrin]

In Exile wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

It might just end up being a game you enjoy. And CD red, like Bioware, is one of few devs making story-driven RPG's. Comparisons are inevitable.

If it's stable, it will be a great game. The Witcher was not a stable game (it compared unfavourably to Obsidian releases for me) in terms of crashes and potentially game-breaking errors. Who knows what they will end up doing with a new engine.

That being said, I have to echo the sentiment if only the idea that the Witcher, which takes all of the features panned in DA2 by many (i.e. PC VO, paraphrase, action-RPG combat) and takes it up a notch gets praise as "saving'' RPGs.

This needs to be cleared up. I think we're dealing with two different camps here. Most Witcher fans (myself included) are not dismayed at the changes...well, most of them. TW2 is retaining much of what TW1 already had. Many DA:O fans are dismayed by the new changes in DA2, because Bioware is taking a meat cleaver to their game by comparison. That's why fewer feathers are ruffled with Witcher fans. TW2 is still staying true to the original.

It's all speculation of course, but that's my take.

Modifié par slimgrin, 26 décembre 2010 - 10:39 .

[ankuu]

Saibh wrote...

Honestly, every time someone mentions The Witcher 2 on these forums, I hate it just a bit more. I'm so sick of it being compared to DA2, when the things people complain about in this game are features of TW2.

Couldn't agree more.

But i never really liked TW anyway...Dragon Age was a game i played over and over again, TW fell into "played once and gone it was" category (along with Mass Effect).

Skyrim came as a lighting bolt for me. I wasn't excepecting it at all and i WANT it. But even though i am a fan of RPGs because of Morrowind (the first RPG i ever played) i still put Dragon Age in front of it somehow. Die hard fan xD

I am glad that they appear in 2 different periods of the year so i'll pick em up both. I hope AC:B will come out for PC too, as i have money saved up for it...

Modifié par ankuu, 26 décembre 2010 - 10:41 .

[Piecake]

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

Stop hating on The Witcher >

The combat was horrifically boring!

Though I do hear that TW2 is improving that, so I am looking forward to it now (still going to wait on the reviews though).

[In Exile]

Brockololly wrote...

But the nice thing with CD Projekt and the Witcher was that while it was broken at launch, they didn't just give up on it but rather patched the hell out of it and upgraded everyone to the Enhanced Edition later on for free. Thats pretty awesome.

I was talking about the EE. That was unstable and buggy for me. Though yes, they deserve credit for what they did. That doesn't tell us if it will be stable at release or not.

This needs to be cleared up. I think we're
dealing with two different camps here. Most Witcher fans (myself
included) are not dismayed at the changes...well, most of them. TW2 is
retaining much of what TW1 already had. Many DA:O fans are
dismayed by the new changes in DA2, because Bioware is taking a meat
cleaver to their game by comparison. That's why fewer feathers are
ruffled with Witcher fans. TW2 is still staying true to the original.

It isn't about feathers being ruffled. People are actually saying that DA2 is doing all the wrong things, but the Witcher will be ''true'' to PC gaming.

Except that when they take their game around to show gameplay, the use a controller instead of a mouse + keyboard, they are adding even more ME-like features than in ME, with a character who is more fixed and with less customization, along with QTEs.

It makes absolutely no sense. If you like the features in the Witcher, and DA2 is giving you more of the same, saying the game isn't ''true'' to its vision anymore is nonsense.

The Witcher is a game very close to what DA2 will be, except that the Witcher lacked tactical party based combat (though it was strategical with alchemy.

To get back on topic:

I can't say I'm very excited about many of these games. The Witcher 2 I will buy, though I'm not sold on the stability at release. Deus Ex I might try, since I have heard good things about the original and many seemed convinced about how good it is, though I will wait for reviews to see if I want to buy it for PC or rent it for the 360.

Beyond that, I'm honestly burned out on the Total War franchise. Can't really think of any other games I'm looking foward too right now.

I won't buy Starcraft II until Blizzard provides all 3 campaigns in a box set.

Modifié par In Exile, 26 décembre 2010 - 10:49 .

[upsettingshorts]

I think there is a difference between:

"DA2 is betraying the expectations laid down by DAO by adding X and Y unlike The Witcher 2 which is simply improving on its predecessor"
and
"DA2 is adding X and Y which I dislike so I'm looking forward to The Witcher 2 - which also has X and Y - more.

The former is more reasonable than the latter, which seems to be the one In Exile is talking about.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 26 décembre 2010 - 10:51 .

[In Exile]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I think there is a difference between:

"DA2 is betraying the expectations laid down by DAO by adding X and Y unlike The Witcher 2 which is simply improving on its predecessor"
and
"DA2 is adding X and Y which I dislike so I'm looking forward to The Witcher 2 - which also has X and Y - more.

The former is more reasonable than the latter, which seems to be the one In Exile is talking about.

Right. People who tend to bring up the Witcher tend to bringing up as an example of how to build a PC-only RPG right. But it has the same features as DA2. So that is where I am confused.

[GodWood]

simfamSP wrote...
Suprised it wasn't TESV I mean, it's confirmation was like a champagne bottle when shaken. Everyone knew about DA2, but TESV...people were starting to doubt it's reality.

TESV isn't out till November 2011.
According to this poll DA2 is the most anticipated game of early 2011.

[AmstradHero]

In Exile wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I think there is a difference between:

"DA2 is betraying the expectations laid down by DAO by adding X and Y unlike The Witcher 2 which is simply improving on its predecessor"
and
"DA2 is adding X and Y which I dislike so I'm looking forward to The Witcher 2 - which also has X and Y - more.

The former is more reasonable than the latter, which seems to be the one In Exile is talking about.

Right. People who tend to bring up the Witcher tend to bringing up as an example of how to build a PC-only RPG right. But it has the same features as DA2. So that is where I am confused.

Yet these people contend that it allows true role-playing, when it actually forces Geralt in his entirety and all of his motivations upon you as a player, completely removing the player's authority in providing rationale for their decisions. I consider that a cornerstone of roleplaying games, and hence in my opnion the game fails to deliver as an RPG in a hideous fashion.
I will not be buying the Witcher 2, but DA2 and ME3 are definite buys. Skyrim is almost certain, and I imagine I'll get Deus Ex as well.

[tmp7704]

Maria Caliban wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Ehh, DA2 is on 14th spot of that list as i'm reading it, below Deus Ex 3.

Okay.

But it has almost double of DX3's votes, so I'm not sure what your point is.

I didn't bother to vote on any of them, so all i was presented with was list of games without any info about number of votes they had, just series of "vote" buttons next to the titles. There was no indication how the titles were ordered, but as it wasn't alphabetic arrangement i thought they're sorted by vote number at the given moment.

[slimgrin]

In Exile wrote...

I won't buy Starcraft II until Blizzard provides all 3 campaigns in a box set.

Unfortunately, you're likely looking at $150 right there. I like their games, but damn Blizzard will sure milk it.

Modifié par slimgrin, 26 décembre 2010 - 11:21 .

[upsettingshorts]

I play The Witcher as an action adventure game with RPG elements. But that's because I really don't care if a game fits into one of my narrow definitions of what genre the game belongs in - I like a lot of different genres. Labels, whether we're talking about TW or DAO or ME2 don't really do much for me except when they start to become meaningless and misleading - like Bioware's liberal use of the "action RPG" tag.

[Dallo]

In Exile wrote...


If it's stable, it will be a great game. The Witcher was not a stable game (it compared unfavourably to Obsidian releases for me) in terms of crashes and potentially game-breaking errors. Who knows what they will end up doing with a new engine.
 

TW gave me no grief at all, played perfectly well straight out of the box.  Hardly ever crashed, loading times were fine, no obvious bugs at all.   Guessing local machine issues mostly.

My 512 Mb GeForce 7600 gs won't cut it for DA2, which is a pity, but many of the other games on the list here will run fine on my machine, so playability will determine my priorities.

I don't get all this X is/will be better than Y mentality.  They'll be different, probably all be great in their own ways, and 'the best' a matter of personal taste.

I actually preferred TW over DA:O for a variety of reasons, yet I played the latter way more times.  More flexibility in your PC...

Diablo 3 is top of my wishlist, closely followed by ME3 and TW2. 

[Elvhen Veluthil]

The game I am looking forward to play in 2011 is "Heroes of Might & Magic VI ", I hope it's not like V. I have no interest whatsoever at ME3, and if it wasn't for the lore and the improvements it may bring to the toolset, I must admit that I am not interested at all in DA2 too. Couldn't care less about Hawke and his rise to power.

[Ganondorf2002]

I'm looking forward to Heroes of Might and Magic VI, Witcher 2, Two Worlds 2, and of course Dragon Age 2.