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[J40kfan16]

I'm hoping that dark energy will be involved in someway.

You know the stuff that can cause the expansion of a universe and tear apart matter to the quark or atleast thats what we think it is capable in RL yet alone what science fiction can make up for the sake of a storys plot. Perhaps a device that came before even the reapers in a grand revelation that can trap reaper(s) in a singularity of some sort. A mass effect field that can bypass  though reaper armor and shields with ease or something to that effect.

Modifié par J40kfan16, 27 décembre 2010 - 08:54 .

[Jane Shepard]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

I do agree though that I'd rather we not win with just a space battle - I think that should be a backdrop to the final part of the game and their purpose should be to keep the Reaper fleet busy, while Shepard embarks on his/her own mission.

This is what I've always imagined it to play out. I think that would be best, to be honest. If we end up winning with a space battle, then it would be too cliche - no matter how epic. Shepard must do something that makes her Shepard; something no one else can. That's what would really make things shine for me.
 

I agree. Maybe the final battle will be on board of the main Reaper if there is any... Or something like it. But it should be something big! In any case I'm sure, Shepard and her team will make things right.

[Fiery Phoenix]

AwesomeName wrote...
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Off-topic: Yeah I see your point, but I should point out that I'm using 3 significant figures so I figured that whatever proportion of 13.5 billion years where intelligent life arises would still round off to 13.5 billion!   But, for the hell of it, I suppose we could always use the age of the Earth as benchmark instead?  Even then there'd still be 10s of thousands of cycles!  And from that how many reapers could there have been (perhaps they only make a new reaper every third cycle)?  /off-topic

It's highly speculative. Even if you consider the age of the Earth as your reference, who's to say there were no earlier civilizations that achieved interstellar travel before we humans even came to be?

At any rate, I see what you're getting it. I think it ultimately depends on when the Reapers first appeared to begin with, which is obviously anyone's guess. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

I get it. Sorry if I seemed a bit too serious. XD

[Dem_B]

@AwesomeName

In that theme social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/4811541/8#5562855 I tried to imagine that the Reapers have survived the global cataclysm, which in those ancient times, has affected all races.

But the Reapers has turned itself into a monsters - the flesh in the metal, but other races could choose their own path, they become "Beings of light".

Maybe you don't knows about them masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Klencory They were mentioned in Mass Effect 1. 

In my article I tried to imagine motives of the Reapers. That they were not always were evil, they think they're doing it for good - save those who are worthy.

Quotes:
"That which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction." - Harbinger.
"We are each a nation" - Sovereign.

Every conquered nation has become the new Reaper.

But there were those who watch and do not interfere - "Beings of light". Maybe they can help. Volus billionaire Kumun Shol claims that a vision of a higher being told him to seek on Klencory the "lost crypts of beings of light." These entities were supposedly created at the dawn of time to protect organic life from synthetic "machine devils."

But if each of the conquered race has become the new Reaper, each destroyed race. Became "Beings of light".

Reapers and "Beings of light" are two opposing forces.
Reapers consider themselves gods, deciding the fate of others, "Beings of light" are watching and do not interfere.

History is much deeper than just our resistance.

The most likely final - we will be defeated and perish all.

But mostly think everything is easy.

Everyone thinks that we are bound to win.
We are the people, we always win!

I believe, it's just not right. 

fmsantos39 wrote...
boss and a super bomb.

TheDarklite wrote...
I think in the end the citadel itself will probably turn out to be some epic reaper-defeating weapon, or at least play a part.

The Citadel will be a super powerful gun and we will destroy Reapers one volley.
"Time to show our new teeth. Fire the main gun." - QUOTE before destroying the collectors ship with the first volley. 

JamieCOTC wrote...
Shep convinces the Reapers to leave the galaxy... 

We will beat the Reapers as teddy bears, they are will be offended and will no longer play with us. [Smile]

Now seriously.
Reaper win the most common ending, our victory should be less likely.
Because for millions of years Reapers amassed forces and to win will need a miracle. 
This is if all the Somali pirates to unite and win all the other States.

Even now, when many finished Mass Effect 2 a few times. Few realize that the Reapers are not Artificial Intelligence, who thinks that he is the best.

They were alive. If you are interested please read social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/4811541/8#5562855

Modifié par Dem_B, 28 décembre 2010 - 08:48 .

[s0meguy6665]

Shepard somehow gets the Reaper fleet destroyed by a black hole, or a supernova. I think that's the most feasible way of destroying the Reapers.

Modifié par s0meguy6665, 28 décembre 2010 - 08:58 .

[Dem_B]

s0meguy6665 wrote...

Shepard somehow gets the Reaper fleet destroyed by a black hole, or a supernova.

Yah, that seriously?

Scientists will create a generator of black holes and generator closing of black holes.
Or for 5 seconds, invent and synthesize a Red Matter.
Or Shepard says catch me Reapers and lure them into a black hole.
Or Shepard says Reapers see, what it is? They distract and then suddenly explodes near a supernova and destroy all.
Brilliant!

I say this in jest, but really, everything can be like this. This is unfortunate.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

If Shepard has a high enough persuade/intimidate skill he convinces the reapers to leave peacefully.

[s0meguy6665]

Dem_B wrote...

s0meguy6665 wrote...

Shepard somehow gets the Reaper fleet destroyed by a black hole, or a supernova.

Yah, that seriously?

Scientists will create a generator of black holes and generator closing of black holes.
Or for 5 seconds, invent and synthesize a Red Matter.
Or Shepard says catch me Reapers and lure them into a black hole.
Or Shepard says Reapers see, what it is? They distract and then suddenly explodes near a supernova and destroy all.
Brilliant!

I say this in jest, but really, everything can be like this. This is unfortunate.

It's possible to do it in a way that doesn't imply the Reapers are stupid. Supernovae could destroy the Reapers anytime if they found a way to force (perhaps already instable) stars into it, while they are destroying a planet. Or perhaps we will steal technology from the Reapers to be able to create a similar superweapon.

The Reapers have to have black hole manipulation technology at the least, remember where the Collector base was located?

One thing is for sure, if all or most Reapers are as capable as or more capable than Sovereign, I don't think it's likely that a space battle is going to cut it. We'll need some kind of superweapon, or a way to trick the Reaper fleet into it's doom (as unlikely as that sounds, as I think they're supposed to be highly intelligent). Simply persuading them to leave would be anti-climactic, as well as somehow trapping them in dark space by destroying their means of returning, dooming them to die a slow death.

There is also a possibility that we won't be able to totally destroy the Reapers in this game, if Bioware/EA wants to keep them alive for future ME games. They said that this game would be the end of the Shepard story arc, not the Reapers. That would REALLY suck.

Modifié par s0meguy6665, 28 décembre 2010 - 10:27 .

[Had-to-say]

I'm hoping after a long faught war we create a black whole that eats most of the Reaper fleet. We sign a treaty to allow them access to raw biological material in exchange for our continued evolution as biological beings. After many years of cooperation we teach them about compassion love and beauty. In exchange we create a more perfect super being that exist outside the realm of matter that is nondependant on any known energies. It becomes a new generator intelligent life in the cosmos. We give birth to a new being in the realm of existence in the fifth dimension.

Modifié par Had-to-say, 28 décembre 2010 - 10:30 .

[Dem_B]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

If Shepard has a high enough persuade/intimidate skill he convinces the reapers to leave peacefully.

Quote: "We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite." - Sovereign.

What words you are will select to convince those who have lived millions of years to leave us alone?

Renegade. You say: You do not stand against the united fleet of the galaxy, you can not defeat us. Think, whether you need to risk their existence, because we will fight to the last drop of blood. We will fight to the death and in the end we will destroy you all.

They think yes - it was a powerful speech, he was not joking, perhaps we need get lost.

Paragon. You say: Look, all galactic races united in the fight with you, we all have one goal, but this goal is not destruction. You want harvesting us, but thinking, you will get more than will lose in a battle with us? What do you will achieve? Give up, while you can and you can leave in peace.

They think so - our goal, which we have followed of millions of years is negligible, we will find another ways.

I came up this speech seriously and convincingly. But if I'm going to convince the intelligent and eloquent arguments of those who saw and knows much more than me. For example, I'll convince the president of country in something. He did not agree

Modifié par Dem_B, 28 décembre 2010 - 11:43 .

[Dem_B]

s0meguy6665 wrote...
Or perhaps we will steal technology from the Reapers to be able to create a similar superweapon.

I just do not believe that Shepard or anyone else can defeat the Reapers, even with all allies.

If all the Somali pirates to unite and win all the other States. Yes, now they do not pose a threat to a superpower, but if they steal a nuclear bomb.

[s0meguy6665]

Dem_B wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

If Shepard has a high enough persuade/intimidate skill he convinces the reapers to leave peacefully.

Quote: "We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite." - Sovereign.

What words you are will select to convince those who have lived millions of years to leave us alone?

Renegade. You say: You do not stand against the united fleet of the galaxy, you can not defeat us. Think, whether you need to risk their existence, because we will fight to the last drop of blood. We will fight to the death and in the end we will destroy you all.

They think yes - it was a powerful speech, he was not joking, perhaps we need get lost.

Paragon. You say: Look, all galactic races united in the fight with you, we all have one goal, but this goal is not destruction. You want harvesting us, but thinking, you will get more than will lose in a battle with us? What do you will achieve? Give up, while you can and you can leave in peace.

They think so - our goal, which we have followed of millions of years is negligible, we will find another ways.

I came up this speech seriously and convincingly. But if I'm going to convince the intelligent and eloquent arguments of those who saw and knows much more than me. For example, I'll convince the president of his country in something.

Both speeches are hilariously unrealistic. No way the coalition fleet could pose a threat to more than a few Reapers.

And it would not be a good idea to let the Reapers go, even if the coalition force was in a position to pose a serious threat to them. What's stopping them from coming back later? Are we supposed to expect them to just go off and do nothing? or perhaps let them harvest another galaxy?

[Dem_B]

s0meguy6665 wrote...
Both speeches are hilariously unrealistic.

What's stopping them from coming back later? Are we supposed to expect them to just go off and do nothing? or perhaps let them harvest another galaxy?

These two speeches I wrote seriously, but the idea is to convince the Reapers leave us - funny, it is will not be.
I wanted to show that even the epic speech, will do not stop the Reapers.

Modifié par Dem_B, 28 décembre 2010 - 12:01 .

[Amyntas]

Violence. And if violence is no solution, more violence.

Modifié par Amyntas, 28 décembre 2010 - 12:46 .

[rogermacarios]

I'll quote myself from another thread 2 weaks ago.



"No matter what Shepard do or who he brings to the fight, the Reapers fleet is so much for them to hold, so when all seems to go to the end of the galaxy civilization, Shepard goes all Bazinga!!! and call the remaining fleet to the Citadel, activate it's relay function and go throught it to the other side, trying to escape their iminent destruction. There they find out what motivates the Reapers, their origin, and more important, their weakness or a way to disable their shields, and then, they come back to the Milk Way kicking their crab asses out of the galaxy."

[Collider]

A combination of the forces Shepard gathers. The composition of said forces depends on Shepard's choices. Hopefully, they'll employ tough moral choices in the process.

[Loup Blanc]

"IT'S A TRAP ! IT'S A TRAP !"



Seriously, the galactic races using their brains an coming together with a plan to trick the Reapers into a solar system for example, and trigger a super mega giga nova would do the trick. As I said before, only stars seem to have the power to destroy the Reaper armada.



If not, then I'll settle with the final battle and the Reaper leader.



No sacrifice ending please. It would leave a bitter taste, and it's been done so many times.

[ShamieGTX]

A giant can of Raid....what? they are cockroach like



on a more serious note... i personally dont care as long as we get some gut wrenching action and some mind bending revelations (and/or) plot twist

[aeetos21]

Its like Legion said, humans don't act in a way that AI would predict. Our unpredictability will play an enormous part on how we beat the reapers.

[ShamieGTX]

aeetos21 wrote...

Its like Legion said, humans don't act in a way that AI would predict. Our unpredictability will play an enormous part on how we beat the reapers.

Then again, the reapers are much more advanced than the Geth.

[Mortromp]

Humanity should use the technology captured at the end of ME2 to create our own reapers, thus leveling the playing field. Perhaps those that spared the Rachni queen could use an army of Rachni to do so if they breed fast enough. The reapers show up and see we've used inferior races in our creation and decide humanity isn't as intelligent as they previously thought. They Reapers go back into the void until a more intelligent species arises to be harvested.