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[Fiery Phoenix]

AwesomeName wrote...

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p.s. to anyone who's noticed I constantly bring this up, I am sorry, but I'm just really enthusiastic with the
idea that the game could play out as both epic and tragic at the same time.

Ha, it's okay. I'm totally loving it.

I... thought I might add something very trivial here. Below is a picture of the final paragraph of Thane's romance-specific from LOTSB (which I took). Notice what is mentioned in it:



In particular:

...To light your path through the coming darkness. To give you hope, when all seems lost.

Notice something there?

I know it's probably nothing to take at face value, but it's still something.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 03 janvier 2011 - 10:12 .

[Jonn Lm]

d'you think we'll be able to import saves from ME1?

[KatieLovesBioware]

My brother and i have been talking about this for a long time and i have said for a while that in order to get the Reapers you need to go in from the inside, i think a kind of enemy behind the lines idea. They are made from synthetic and organic materials. Why not a virus? This will require someone putting it into the king/queen of the hive (i too think they are a hive mind) and that person is very unlikely to survive. My brother believes it has something to do with the mass relays and mass effect itself. He has said why call the series mass effect if you hardly mention it. It's an interesting point.....

[Ghost Warrior]

I imagine we'll probably develop some kind of virus to take down their shields or something and blow them to hell with standard weapons.I'm afraid that could really happen and I don't want it.I want something deeper and more complicated.You know what's interesting? - Project Overlord.Yes,if you left David to his brother,couldn't he just control every Reaper?Anyway,the most important thing is that Shepard sacrifices himself for more emotional ending.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Personally I want Shepard to survive with chipped armor looking like he/she came back from hell , but got the job done.But if he/she sacrifices himself/herself I could accept that too , with the main thing being either way the galaxy is saved for the most part from the reapers.

[CARL_DF90]

Me personally I'm hoping for an optional "all is lost" ending like we had in ME2 to really drive home the fact that your past decisions and actions really had consequences. Just one possible ending idea anyways.

[TheNexus]

Big, bigger, biggest.



Explosions. Lots and lots of explosions.

[Shaun2406]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before...



But a fair few people have said 'dark matter will probably involved' and others have mentioned luring the Reapers to a central area (Earth perhaps?) and detonating a nearby star to cripple/damage/wipe them out...



Dark energy causes Haestrom to age faster than it should, when a star ages enough, it explodes... Hence Dark Energy can be tied to defeating the reapers (OK technically, the Earth's sun won't go supernova, its too small, and a star exploding takes several weeks buuut I don't understand how dark energy works fully and this is a sci-fi universe so its plausible bioware will conveniently ignore these facts)...



It would be cool if the last mission involved deploying all of the galaxies fleets around a star, drawing the reapers in and defending some sort of platform capable of injecting large amounts of dark energy into said star, causing the star to explode, wiping out the fleet and the surrounding reapers... Though Shepards role in this would be difficult to establish as it would be a primarily fleet based battle...

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

And after the battle everyone sits down in the mess for some tasty waffles and Legion decides to chat it up with the ship.

[DJBare]

Uszi wrote...

Heh. Hopefully it doesn't come to a stand-up fight. Everything we've been told is that no matter how we prepare, we will lose a stand-up fight. It would cheapen the series, IMO, if the battle is done that way.

I support Para-Shep sacrificing himself to save the galaxy.
I support Rene-Shep sacrificing most of/the enite team to save the galaxy.

This shows how we are all different, I think it should be the other way around, paragon shep gets to walk away while renegade shep gets to redeem him/herself through sacrifice if they so wish.

Personally I hope it's NOT a forced sacrifice for either.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

With you there , if it's all about choice.I want to be able to decide whether or not to sacrifice myself.

[88mphSlayer]

well i think the reasons why the reapers are doing what they're doing will be pretty profound



but for how to defeat them? dunno, if you recall Vigil's theory in ME1 was that the reapers go into hibernation for much of those 50,000+ year intermissions and during said hibernations they're very vulnerable, hence why they sit in dark space where nobody can find them or do anything about them



so that might be a clue



then again we'll probably get options, there has to be something renegade-related to Cerberus having the collector base right? i'm sure we can brute force something as well like has been said blowing up stars

[Halfdan The Menace]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

I want an ending with the Reapers and Alliance similiar to Saving Private Ryan;

That would be neat, Shep is wounded, fighting to his/her last breathe and slipping fast, then Joker comes in with the Normandy, and WHAM! The enemy gets vaporized.



But I got to wondering, if Shep is Captain Miller (Hanks) , who would Shep tell to "Earn it?"

IMHO, the most likely squadmate(s) is/are Tali and Legion (based on their people's history), otherwise someone new.

or if it is a non squadmate, maybe even TIM or Hackett over a comm...

or just for the LULZ, the Turian Councilor.


Seriously though, the ending has to epic and has to top ME and the end of the ME2 Suicide Mission, however it goes in ME3.

Like I said,I want Saving Private Brian Ryan ending and mixed it with Call of Duty: Modern Warfare ending.

[Iakus]

AwesomeName wrote...


ANYWAY, how are YOU guys hoping we'll beat the Reapers?

-A straight forward Reaper boss fight?

-Send Jeff Goldblum to kill the Reapers' mothership out in darkspace?  (Do we even want them to have a mothership?)

-A straight forward but massive space battle with all the galaxy's fleets?

-A Neo/Smith ending where Shepard sacrifices his/herself and melds with a Reaper's genetic material and destroys them from the inside out, or takes control of the entire Reaper fleet?

-Something emotionally and philosophically powerful?

-Some or all of the above?

Guess I'll weigh in here:

Assuming that budget and disk space was no object, and so on, I would want:

A) A massive operation on multiple Reaper strongholds.  Massive fleet battles to dwarf the Citadel battle.  For David Weber fans, think of the Battle of Manticore.  Or one of the Salamander's other death rides.  Strength of arms will likely not be enough to decide the war.  But it surely couldn't hurt.

  Several teams worth of new and returning characters operating in tandem  to pull off an intricate plan.  I'm thinking at least three teams, operating independantly from each other but their successes or failure affect other teams.  Think Suicide Mission on steroids.  You periodically switch from team to team to direct their actions "Team one will strike here and disable the security.  Second team will enter here and make their way to the holding cells.  I'll lead the assault on the front door and try to draw out whoever's in charge"

Of course, the more surviving squad members you have, the bigger the pool you can draw from.  And yes, this means that you would end up controlling characters that aren't Shepard.  Hey, the Joker mission set the precedent   Heck, maybe a Fort Drakon-like mission could be arranged too!

C) Shepard in general will have to face down whatever the driving force is within the Reapers, and be confronted with the question of just how human he/she still is. That part should be vital.  Shepard's death and ressurection should play a prominent role.  Shep needs to confront if he/she is alive or dead, human or machine or something else entirely.  To quote a great ine from Babylon 5:

"You're not embracing life, you're fleeing death! So you're caught in-between. Unable to go forward or backward. Your friends need what you can be when you're no longer afraid. When you know who you are and why you are and what you want... It's easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?"

Basically, I'd want  big epic space battles,  complex caper, an internal struggle, and a happy ending.  Is that too much to ask?

Modifié par iakus, 07 janvier 2011 - 08:57 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

You keep fascinating me with your brain, Iakus.

[masterkajo]

DJBare wrote...

Uszi wrote...

Heh. Hopefully it doesn't come to a stand-up fight. Everything we've been told is that no matter how we prepare, we will lose a stand-up fight. It would cheapen the series, IMO, if the battle is done that way.

I support Para-Shep sacrificing himself to save the galaxy.
I support Rene-Shep sacrificing most of/the enite team to save the galaxy.

This shows how we are all different, I think it should be the other way around, paragon shep gets to walk away while renegade shep gets to redeem him/herself through sacrifice if they so wish.

Personally I hope it's NOT a forced sacrifice for either.

I wouldn't mind an optional sacrifice BUT depending on all your decisions through ME1, ME2 and ME3. Like if you did everything "right" throughout the 3 games there is no need for a sacrifice. But if you did some things wrong you can "redeem" yourself and save the galaxy by sacrifice or live but suffer some losses (galaxy wide) or if you did absolutely everything "wrong" you can sacrifice yourself and still you lose.

Modifié par masterkajo, 07 janvier 2011 - 09:24 .

[Princess_Ozma]

If there's any ending Bioware should copy it's the ending to the anime Top O Nerae! Gunbuster



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The basic premise of the show is that humanity having reached a certain stage of development is at war with space bugs which represent the galaxies' immune system they are billions upon billions in number... and eventually humanity has only one resource left, the Black Hole Bomb. Now this isn't the first time they create a black hole to destroy some of the space bugs but this time they take the black whole bomb into the source for the space monsters the galactic core (this was I think before we realized that the galactic core is made of black holes)...



Anyway, as the bomb is put into place the space bugs attack and at the end the reaction falls just short of what is needed due to the damage, so the main heroines have to use their warp engine to complete the reaction, since their ride has too they can still get back home... but they'll be out of time-sync with everyone else due to the different rates of time dialation... it takes them 10,000 years to finally return home, in real time.

[Phaedon]

Fight against several (or just one) avatar(s) like ME1.

[Ieldra]

I think there can be no doubt that there won't be a purely military solution against the Reapers. So we'll probably get to see a big space battle, but it won't be where the war will be decided.



I like Elyvern's scenario: commando teams enter Reapers and disable them from within. The technology of the Collector base has made it possible to protect those teams from indoctrination (or there will be more casualties). Maybe, we can re-program a few to fight against their former allies.



No idea what the final epic scene will be, since we don't know yet if there is some centralized command you could attack. Maybe the final solution is a computer virus, and we'll have to fight through virtual space like in Overlord to insert it into a Reaper core. Anyway, I'm very convinced that space battles will not be what decides the conflict.

[SirKillsalot]

Im betting black holes, or some sort of secret super weapon left by the Protheans which you must gather components for.

[Iakus]

AwesomeName wrote...

:-)) Iakus, I like your point C.  I think Shepard's mission should be the most important part of that operation and that Bioware executes it in an emotionally gut-wrenching, almost poetic kind of way.  And I think she should be stuck to do that mission entirely on her own.  I'd love it if it played out something like this, with an epilogue that differs depending on previous actions (I'd hope for one epilogue where Shepard survives "turning the key" and is reunited with her LI ala Last Samurai).

Well, I also think that if Shepard is the Chosen One, there needs to be a reason for it.  In DAO, there's a reason why archdemons can only be slain by Grey Wardens.  In ME 1, the images in Shepard's mind were the only warning the galaxy had of the coming Reaper threat.  In ME 2 Shep is the Chosen One because TIM chose to spend billions of credits to ressurect him.  Bioware could have gotten a lot more milage out of that whole life/death biological/synthetic theme than they could have, so why not do so here?

[dweller]

board each reaper and nuke em to shreds...



or develop some more advanced technology and start an epic space battle :D