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[Dreadstruck]

Meh, Dragon Age nexus is nothing compared to Oblivion or F3, NV that gets swarmed by XXX animation changers and skimpy anime clothes.



Ya right, "no need to download this" says a holier than thou crusader, but why does this stuff make up like 60% of the site? Can you for example imagine if this pr0n animator put a work into combat anims instead?

[13Dannyboy13]

Maybe if there was actually nudity in the game people wouldn't have to make the sex mods. I mean an M rating is the same as an R rating for a movie which can have all the nudity it wants, but somehow the same can't be said for games, it's like the developers are scared to put nudity in the game because of all the complaints from parents who buy their underage kids these games.

There are many mods out there for this game, some have nudity some don't, the same as any game that has mods really. No one forces you to download a mod with nudity, it's there for people who want it, if you don't, then don't download it.

The bottom line is that a lot of people want nudity in the game to make it more realistic, or just want to see it, I mean look how many porn sites there are on the web. If it's not for you that's fine, but bashing mods that people work hard on is ignorant, no matter what the mod is, good or bad someone put the time and effort into making it.

[Sarielle]

You can attribute sex/nude mods being in the top slots because of a couple reasons.



1) the internet is anonymous

2) in the U.S. at least, we have a very skewed view on sex/nudity in general (IE, it's bad/indecent) and so people are of course curious.



Keep in mind we were founded by people who thought you should have sex through a hole in the sheet.

[ladydesire]

RobbyBobber wrote...

How the hell did this get to number 1? Plus they demand popularity to give updates?

Nothing like answering your own question; that's exactly how it got so popular, and why three (or is it four) of the top ten mods on the front page of the Social Site's Projects section are part of that set.

PS I heard DA2 will not have a toolset like DA. I think this is good. Would not want BioWare to waste time on letting people make bad porn for their game.

As someone else may have said, the toolset being used to create DA2 is pretty much the one we already have, so a new toolset is not really needed; they will probably just update the existing one to work with DA2's resources.

[Melca36]

Phoenix_Jackson wrote...

 Ok my apologies.  I assumed that the OP was informed enough about Nexus, that's why I didn't consider linking (aside from the fact that I was using a tablet that time).  Also, Nexus is the only place I've been through with regards to MODs.  So I assumed the OP had gone through what I've been through and was just disappointed about the rankings.  Oh well, my apologies.
I haven't seen any exe file MOD yet.
Like I stated first, (Nexus has) an abundant supply of MODs.  Just a little too much of a good thing.  At first, I only read through particular categories (i.e., Companions, Animation, etc.) then filter them descending by endorsements.  Later on, I went through all of the current ones that time (about a month ago) and found out that there are some underrated MODs out there too.  Like I said, there's just too much of them.
Some of my favorite combinations:
Eye soothing MODs:Improved AtmosphereUniversal Dye KitThe Winter ForgeA Sexier Alistair ... well, I'm now learning how to use the toolsetSacred Ashes Sten ... well, I'm now learning how to use the toolsetThe Icons ProjectHelm Removal and other versions... but I like this one mostDeathblow MultiplierWhite Teeth ... and fresher breathShale Retextured ... a rock is a ROCK!  Unarmed Staff CastingSpell Shaping (used on my second run) ... the easy way out

To ease the pain:Innodil's Pocket Plane (careful, though, might get a little over-powered with this)"The Advanced series" (Advanced Tactics, Advanced Quickbar, and Advanced Party)Teleport (have mercy on your feet... no cars yet that time)Combat TweaksMadd Gift GuideCharacter Respecialization and its many forms
For future runs:Adopted ... I won't accept that Dwarves cannot learn magic... it's my fantasy dabbit!Expanded Shape Shifting (for a full-on Shape Shifter using no other skills but that)Wildkin Adept (I miss blue magic... and it's for rogues!)Ritualist and Warlock (interesting but a little too strong at the start)Death Knight ... I believe double-handed warriors should have a little something extra sometimes.Chantry Monk (Everybody loves Kung Fu fighting!)
(le pant!)And I love these extra quests:Alley of Murders (love love love)Dark Times (if I won't include this, DA community will banish me... well, I'd banish me too)Bloodworks (another love love love)Castle CouslandTemple of Vulak (uhh.... I haven't finished this one yet)

I didn't post Temple Of Vulak, because its so insanely difficult especially on Nightmare Mode and if you use the Slink's RAVage mod. 

[errant_knight]

RobbyBobber wrote...

So I played DA a couple of times, I went to try out mods because I got told the mods made the game better. I signup just to voice my disappointment.  Modders just want Dragon Age to be porn? What the hell? What is this sex mod at number 1? I can have sex with my city elf cousin? And everyone wants to have sex with me? Plus the conversations are really badly written. How the hell did this get to number 1? Plus they demand popularity to give updates?

I saw they even have a quest mod - though good thing I checked out their readme first. This comes from their readme FAQ:

softcore porn mod for playing with one-hand wrote...

Where's the sex?
Sappho's Daughters, and to a lesser extent Zevrann, has been heavy on cutscenes. It's what we are famous for – and it's why all three of our mods are on page 1 of the Social.Bioware site in terms of popularity.

What the hell? They are proud that they just make crappy sex scenes with even crappier dialogue? Is this some kinda joke?

If this is the best mod Dragon Age has then screw that. I'm never trying mods. BioWare should be ashamed to have this crap associated with their game.

PS I heard DA2 will not have a toolset like DA. I think this is good. Would not want BioWare to waste time on letting people make bad porn for their game.

There are a lot of good mods that have nothing to do with adding nudity or explicit sex. Try the ones listed under Quests or Dungeons.  The toolset is fun to use and learn, so don't be afraid to make your own armor and items if you don't see what you want. I'm sure that people could recommend some good things as well. There are mods that do useful things like removing the big circles under your characters.

[Zjarcal]

I would like to say in defense of "porn mods", that no one is forcing you to use them. However crappy you may think they are (and I agree with pretty much everything you said about Sapphos Daughters, but that's not the point), a lot of work went into them. Even a "crap mod" such as that one takes time and dedication to make. Whatever your feelings towards that kind of mod may be, it's very harsh and very unfair to lash against their creators in such a way just because it's not your thing.



Also, wishing that there's no toolset for DA2 just because of "porn mods" is incredibly stupid.



I recommend you check out all the mods people have listed so that you get an idea of the kind of great stuff the community has created. Go to the Nexus and browse the mods per categories.

[Phoenix_Jackson]

"Temple of Vulak on nightmare -.-" yeah, I know but it's fun! I like dying a lot.

Each and everyone have their own different taste and approach in game. Some may have strong feelings about something and others towards the opposite. That is actually a good thing. And looking at the bright side of the OP, you can see how it triggers the community to share each and everyone's opinion towards MODs and some. And that is another good thing.

So thank you OP for lashing out a little (/end random thoughts)

Modifié par Phoenix_Jackson, 28 décembre 2010 - 03:10 .

[AmstradHero]

This is the great problem that I have with ranking systems, particularly ones that only allow for positive votes. Here we have someone who was almost scared away from using mods at all because the "top" mods were... "crappy sex mods." As when I first tried NWN1/2 mods, I (mistakenly) believed that the highest rated mods would be the best. I have found that this is never the case with mod rankings.

Regardless, this reaffirms that we need a better means to advertise mods and the means to find good mods to players who want to use them. And no, I don't consider Sapphos mods to be good for exactly the reasons listed by the OP: The "dialogue" is appallingly written, and their main mod consists entirely of being able to sleep with characters - basically turning Ferelden into one big prostitution ring.

I do not like to publicly denounce the works of other modders, but the lack of quality and their vote-buying behaviour (and this is their worst offense) means that I cannot and will not support those mods or their creators in any fashion whatsoever. I love the Dragon Age modding community, but I detest Sapphos. I believe they give mods a bad name - as has been demonstrated so poignantly here.  Yes, you can simply "not download them", but particularly for the number 1 mod, when its ranking is so significantly higher than anything else, it suggests to the average person that its quality would also be commensurately higher than anything else.

RobbyBobber: I would hope that you do try out many of the mods that have been listed here. They are certainly worth your time and effort because there are definitely mods that add significantly to the Dragon Age experience as a whole.

[Melca36]

AmstradHero wrote...

This is the great problem that I have with ranking systems, particularly ones that only allow for positive votes. Here we have someone who was almost scared away from using mods at all because the "top" mods were... "crappy sex mods." As when I first tried NWN1/2 mods, I (mistakenly) believed that the highest rated mods would be the best. I have found that this is never the case with mod rankings.

Regardless, this reaffirms that we need a better means to advertise mods and the means to find good mods to players who want to use them. And no, I don't consider Sapphos mods to be good for exactly the reasons listed by the OP: The "dialogue" is appallingly written, and their main mod consists entirely of being able to sleep with characters - basically turning Ferelden into one big prostitution ring.

I do not like to publicly denounce the works of other modders, but the lack of quality and their vote-buying behaviour (and this is their worst offense) means that I cannot and will not support those mods or their creators in any fashion whatsoever. I love the Dragon Age modding community, but I detest Sapphos. I believe they give mods a bad name - as has been demonstrated so poignantly here.  Yes, you can simply "not download them", but particularly for the number 1 mod, when its ranking is so significantly higher than anything else, it suggests to the average person that its quality would also be commensurately higher than anything else.

RobbyBobber: I would hope that you do try out many of the mods that have been listed here. They are certainly worth your time and effort because there are definitely mods that add significantly to the Dragon Age experience as a whole.

I try to promote all the great mods by posting screenshots in an album so that people can see what they have to offer.

I definitely agree about Sapphos. Their mods have no relevance to the game and are just a means to add girl on girl action.

I am no prude but I don't have the need to see all the women screwing around with eachother. 


Looking forward to your next mod by the way.

[Phoenix_Jackson]

He he he. I just figured out how to work around taking screenies since it never worked before. I'm a fan of making dedication vids too but I'm going to need an extre terra on my HDD... so not yet for now.



Actually, I admire AmstradHero's passion for his mod. His concerns for players. If I only live near by, I'd volunteer for a job just to snatch some of his brains... brains.... mmmmm

[Last Darkness]

RobbyBobber wrote...

So I played DA a couple of times, I went to try out mods because I got told the mods made the game better. I signup just to voice my disappointment.  Modders just want Dragon Age to be porn? What the hell? What is this sex mod at number 1? I can have sex with my city elf cousin? And everyone wants to have sex with me? Plus the conversations are really badly written. How the hell did this get to number 1? Plus they demand popularity to give updates?

I saw they even have a quest mod - though good thing I checked out their readme first. This comes from their readme FAQ:

softcore porn mod for playing with one-hand wrote...

Where's the sex?
Sappho's Daughters, and to a lesser extent Zevrann, has been heavy on cutscenes. It's what we are famous for – and it's why all three of our mods are on page 1 of the Social.Bioware site in terms of popularity.

What the hell? They are proud that they just make crappy sex scenes with even crappier dialogue? Is this some kinda joke?

If this is the best mod Dragon Age has then screw that. I'm never trying mods. BioWare should be ashamed to have this crap associated with their game.

PS I heard DA2 will not have a toolset like DA. I think this is good. Would not want BioWare to waste time on letting people make bad porn for their game.

Your intolerance for other people and what they have the choice to like or dislike is really what killed any weight your entire post may have had. You might as well have said nothing at all cause your words are worth less than it.

Modifié par Last Darkness, 28 décembre 2010 - 06:09 .

[DLAN_Immortality]

Let's forget about being diplomatic for a second.

Some months ago Bioware was quick to ban Jackfuzz' project (incest and a lot of orgies), and Jack's mod was child play compared to Sapphos mod.

Sappho is an insult to every woman, and as a woman I an aggravated by it.

I've nothing against nudity, but I have everything against degradation of people (if the women in those mods were wearing burkas, or if it was targeting a race of people, I'd be equally outraged).

This project has no place in BSN. That's why there's nexus and their categories. So either bioware creates an "adult content" (or vulgar content for this case) category, or this projects should be banned from this site. I wouldn't want my children or young family members to bump into it.

And I'm not even mentioning the vote buying.

Bioware?

Edit: the fact that this mod is first in popularity only adds to injury. There are so many quality mods out there!! But of course any player looking for them will be automatically put off by the project section as it is now. Can't blame them...

Modifié par DLAN_Immortality, 28 décembre 2010 - 08:16 .

[RobbyBobber]

To everyone who said do not download sex mods, yes I can not download the sex mods, but I come here and "the best mods" are sex mods.  Without complaints here I would never have known about nexus or good mods. It is not a matter of using them or not, but crappy sex mods with bad writing are the most popular. I have no problem with sex mods as long as they are well done. But have you seen how bad their writing is? Really bad. If they are most popular, I think that all other mods would be worse. But they are not. The crappy sex mods with bad writing are far worse than other mods. These crappy sex mods give all mods a bad name to people who do not know about DA mods. Nudity to get rid of gross underwears is okay, but "have sex with everyone in the game" with one conversation is not.

I did try some mods:
Hilltop Under Siege - Kill lots of darkspawn to save village. Fun.
Alley of Murders - Has awesome voice acting and good story! Why are there not more like this?
Bloodworks - Voice acting is silly and weapons too powerful, but story is okay.
Dark Times - Some voice acting is terribad, but there is lots interesting to do. Still playing this. Looks like it will be huge!

Still have Carrion Birds and Castle Cousland as well.

Last Darkness wrote...
Your intolerance for other people and what they have the choice to like or dislike is really what killed any weight your entire post may have had. You might as well have said nothing at all cause your words are worth less than it.

What? Cos I said a badly written mod was bad? Having played other mods the writing was lots better in them over number 1 sex mod. When writing doesn't make sense yet is still number 1, then that is sad for people voting for mods and for modders who actually put in effort like the other mods I tried now.

Thank you to the people who suggested mods and linked to nexus. Why is nexus not advertised here? It has lots more mods than this site and better organised.

Modifié par RobbyBobber, 28 décembre 2010 - 09:26 .

[Sinmara]

Hello,

let me give you, who have problem with the Sapphos Projects, some things to think about:

1. DAO is a game for ADULT people. No child should be here to play this (Germany rated 18+)
2. Every Mod is OPTIONAL
3. Parts of Sapphos are optional. Look at the description: every modded char has an own folder, if you install all there will be a lot of scenes, but its your choice!
4. The Mod is made by a WOMAN and there are a lot of women (with all backgrounds, age, kind of partnership....) in the team. and its not an indult against woman. Thats one opinion, may be yours, but not in the eyes of all ther women. And not in mine.

With best regards Sinmara

- proud part of the german sapphos team -

[o00oalex]

Sinmara
It agree. Dragon age - game for adults.

Modifié par o00oalex, 28 décembre 2010 - 10:54 .

[Sinmara]

sorry, I couldn't see this video in germany :-(

[DLAN_Immortality]

Even in nexus (the pinnacle of degradation) adult mods are required to be in the "adult content" category, which is normally invisible unless unlocked by adult people.



I don't think a mere warning in the description is enough. And remember, this is the game's official site. I wouldn't want my game to be represented by a vulgar mod.



Bioware needs to be consistant and either create that category or take equal measures as they did with other similar mods.



There are very good mods centered in sex that are tasteful, like Alistair's first night. Big difference.



Nuff said.

[RobbyBobber]

o00oalex wrote...

Sinmara
It agree. Dragon age - game for adults.

What this have to do with topic? You add nothing to this with pointless video.

[Sinmara]

That depends on the definition of "vulgar", or not ?

Taste is something to discuss the whole day - up and down.



Fact: there is NO nudity in Sapphos ithout installing other mods (not Sapphos !) like nudity mod.

And the next fact: there are a lot of fans outside, nobody is forced to click on the popularity.

And of course a mod in this dimensions inclusive voice and translations needs the feedback if the work is wanted by our fans. This is a big project for the whole and international team...



A lot of Mods are dead in the list - no work further, no updates, no feedback (I tried to mail some of the modders myself .. no response).



There are a lot of very good story mods - my respect for Alley of Murders and thers.



But there should be room for mods in any direction und tolereance between us all.

[DLAN_Immortality]

You're missing the point.

People can play with whatever garbage they want. I won't be the one telling people with what to play. I don't care.

What I'm saying is that certain mods should have their own category or be only in nexus. Right now they're only giving legitimate modders, quality mods, and BSN a bad name.

And now I'm out of this pointless conversation. Happy gaming.

Modifié par DLAN_Immortality, 28 décembre 2010 - 11:36 .

[RobbyBobber]

Sinmara wrote...

Hello,

let me give you, who have problem with the Sapphos Projects, some things to think about:

1. DAO is a game for ADULT people. No child should be here to play this (Germany rated 18+)
2. Every Mod is OPTIONAL
3. Parts of Sapphos are optional. Look at the description: every modded char has an own folder, if you install all there will be a lot of scenes, but its your choice!
4. The Mod is made by a WOMAN and there are a lot of women (with all backgrounds, age, kind of partnership....) in the team. and its not an indult against woman. Thats one opinion, may be yours, but not in the eyes of all ther women. And not in mine.

With best regards Sinmara

- proud part of the german sapphos team -

Sapphos may be adult mod, but is also number 1 rated mod on BioWare's site. This suggest Sapphos is best mod avaiable even though it is nothing but mod to make ****s of every woman in the game. I expect more from mods than just pure sex, and the bad writing of Sapphos makes it not deserve the number one spot. Every mod is optional but when such a high ranked mod degrades women (and men) by making them have sex with warden cos of 1 line of dialog is total crap.

You can be proud of Sapphos all you want, but that mod just seems like it is made for people who want to get off on having sex with people in Dragon Age.

[Sinmara]

A bad name ? I dont know where this name should be "bad" - cause of those mods ?

Give me some examples please where...

Not really, not there where I am in gaming communities.

May be at FOX News ;-) or other people with backgrounds like this. And they are not the public I want be thoughtful with...

[o00oalex]

RobbyBobber wrote...

o00oalex wrote...

Sinmara
It agree. Dragon age - game for adults.

What this have to do with topic? You add nothing to this with pointless video.

I from Russia and me am difficult to write on английски. I want to tell that in game a lot of violence and a sensuality. And game not for children. And I have made a videoclip itself and didn't know in what topic to show, therefore have decided to show here. Excuse if somebody has offended. )

[Sinmara]

And it may be not fit your taste, robby, this is your right. but there are a lot of people who have another opinion - why it is on the first place ?

If you dont like it, its easy to delete any folder you dont want there....Its your personal right.



But I think, nobody has the right to take HIS/HER personal taste to judge what ther people like.