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Leviathan? the Reapers leader in ME3?


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sympathy4saren

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Ah yes, "Reapers". An immortal race of sentient starships, allegedly waiting in dark space.



I thought we dismissed that claim...

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thetruefreemo

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I don't know. Sounds like a reaper but maybe it's the key to defeating the reapers.

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commander Thermos wrote...

Most people thought the Leviathan was Sovereign, since it's discovery almost exactly coincides with the discovery of Sovereign in the first novel, and both were discovered by batarians. If I remember correctly, the Leviathan of Dis was a genetically engineered star ship; that would indicate an organic entity. Reapers are referred to as a machine race indicating a synthetic entity. Here's a thought: what if the quarians weren't the first civilization to build VIs that went horribly AI?


If it turns out to be Sovereign I hope it's at least given mention in DLC or ME3.  If it's an entirely different entity and nota Reaper then I  hope there'sa DLC or a mention in ME3 regardless.

Or if it was Sovereign, maybe it woke up when the Batarians dug it up and it wiped out a large part of their fleet if they indeed have at least one dreadnought let alone other warships that are used for things other than slaving riads.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

The Leviathan was Sovereign.

:blink:

That DOES sound like it.

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Yakko77 wrote...

commander Thermos wrote...

Most people thought the Leviathan was Sovereign, since it's discovery almost exactly coincides with the discovery of Sovereign in the first novel, and both were discovered by batarians. If I remember correctly, the Leviathan of Dis was a genetically engineered star ship; that would indicate an organic entity. Reapers are referred to as a machine race indicating a synthetic entity. Here's a thought: what if the quarians weren't the first civilization to build VIs that went horribly AI?


If it turns out to be Sovereign I hope it's at least given mention in DLC or ME3.  If it's an entirely different entity and nota Reaper then I  hope there'sa DLC or a mention in ME3 regardless.

Or if it was Sovereign, maybe it woke up when the Batarians dug it up and it wiped out a large part of their fleet if they indeed have at least one dreadnought let alone other warships that are used for things other than slaving riads.

Bioware should reveal the origin of the Reapers in ME3 (e.g. who created them,which galaxy they came from,etc.)

but what Harbinger want with the Terminator Reaper,that thing is still a "fetus" when you kill it.

Modifié par ModestmeNTaLmogul, 28 décembre 2010 - 08:38 .


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ModestmeNTaLmogul: They shouldn't reveal everything about the Reapers imo. Leaving some secrets about them will let them retain at least some of their mystery. Letting us know some big "shockers" about them though yes.



About Leviathan, we'll either see something of/about it in ME3 or it was just a Farscape reference.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

As for the Farscape reference, all the Reapers are a Farscape reference.


How so? What race specifically in Farscape, because I've watched all four seasons and they're nothing like Leviathans. 

They kinda vaguely remind me of Shadows in Babylon 5 for the first 2 seasons but even that's a poor match once you learn all about what the Shadows actually are

Modifié par marshalleck, 28 décembre 2010 - 08:57 .


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marshalleck wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

As for the Farscape reference, all the Reapers are a Farscape reference.


How so? What race specifically in Farscape, because I've watched all four seasons and they're nothing like Leviathans. 

They kinda vaguely remind me of Shadows in Babylon 5 for the first 2 seasons but even that's a poor match once you learn all about what the Shadows actually are


How do you figure they are nothing like the reapers?

sentient spaceship? Check
engineered race? By any logic: yes
Biomechanical? check

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Yeahhh, this is kinda my fault...



I tried to start a meme, but failed spectacularly. My bad :o

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PiEman wrote...

Yeahhh, this is kinda my fault...

I tried to start a meme, but failed spectacularly. My bad :o

This isn't about your "meme". This is about something that has been discussed probably around half a billion times now.

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ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

commander Thermos wrote...

Most people thought the Leviathan was Sovereign, since it's discovery almost exactly coincides with the discovery of Sovereign in the first novel, and both were discovered by batarians. If I remember correctly, the Leviathan of Dis was a genetically engineered star ship; that would indicate an organic entity. Reapers are referred to as a machine race indicating a synthetic entity. Here's a thought: what if the quarians weren't the first civilization to build VIs that went horribly AI?


If it turns out to be Sovereign I hope it's at least given mention in DLC or ME3.  If it's an entirely different entity and nota Reaper then I  hope there'sa DLC or a mention in ME3 regardless.

Or if it was Sovereign, maybe it woke up when the Batarians dug it up and it wiped out a large part of their fleet if they indeed have at least one dreadnought let alone other warships that are used for things other than slaving riads.

Bioware should reveal the origin of the Reapers in ME3 (e.g. who created them,which galaxy they came from,etc.)

but what Harbinger want with the Terminator Reaper,that thing is still a "fetus" when you kill it.


If nothing else, knowing more about their origin, who built them and how might lead to a more effective way at killing them that doesn't require the destruction of entire fleets of ships.let alone planets, civilizations and races.

Modifié par Yakko77, 29 décembre 2010 - 04:33 .


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Halfdan The Menace

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Nizzemancer wrote...

marshalleck wrote.... 

They kinda vaguely remind me of Shadows in Babylon 5 for the first 2 seasons but even that's a poor match once you learn all about what the Shadows actually are


How do you figure they are nothing like the reapers?

sentient spaceship? Check
engineered race? By any logic: yes
Biomechanical? check

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The Leviathan could be a Reaper prototype.

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Halfdan The Menace

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vehzeel wrote...

The Leviathan could be a Reaper prototype.


maybe.

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if you've played ME1 and the bring down the sky dlc, and chose to let balak the terrorist leader go, he shows up in ME3 and tells you about the leviathan of dis. that it was in fact a reaper body that was secretly transported to Khar'shan the batarian home world after there attack of terra nova failed.Balak then goes on to say that this "leviathan indoctrinated many members of the Hegemony", making them the easiest first prey of the arriving reapers, so as cool as the idea sounds, i doubt it. must have been a reaper corpse or something.