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[Jamesnew2]

Can someone please clear this up for me as i've gathered that you will play as hawk and its set before travelling to after the blight which you ended with the grey warden in origins.. I just want to know if the origins charactors and well plot thing will be shown in dragon age 3 or will give some info in during dragon age 2.... specially seeing with the end of the witch hunt for me left a lot of unanswered questions... Anyway thanks

[IndigoWolfe]

DA2's time span extends after Origins.

[Maria Caliban]

The Warden's story is finished, but Morrigan's is not. We won't see her in DA 2 but I wouldn't be surprised if she showed up in DA 3.

[IndigoWolfe]

And if I were to speak frankly, I seriously doubt the Warden will return in any role of significance. Unless, perhaps, if the Warden romanced Morrigan and went with her. And even then, I don't think he will be a playable character.

[Jamesnew2]

yeah i went through that porthole after romancing her.... somehow i dont expect to be alive for long.

[Matchy Pointy]

Am I one of the few who are happy to play a new character in DA2 and wh sees the warden's job as done, the blight ended?

[upsettingshorts]

Matchy Pointy wrote...

Am I one of the few who are happy to play a new character in DA2 and wh sees the warden's job as done, the blight ended?

You're definitely not alone.

[MoogleNut]

Much as I love playing my Warden, I too am excited about being able to play a different character in the Dragon Age universe. It would be nice to dust off her cobwebs one day but it's not the end of the gaming world if not.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Matchy Pointy wrote...

Am I one of the few who are happy to play a new character in DA2 and wh sees the warden's job as done, the blight ended?

I'm going to enjoy seeing the world from new points of view.  No hackneyed "Zomg, Warden, you bonked your head and forgot your teh skillz, lol!  Now go to Kirkwall!" needed.

[Alfa Kilo]

Matchy Pointy wrote...

Am I one of the few who are happy to play a new character in DA2 and wh sees the warden's job as done, the blight ended?

No. I am looking forward to seeing Hawke(s) in action as well. I get the feeling that Warden died in... wherever that Eluvian took him - and good riddance, I say
Every story must have an end and personally I would have disliked playing as a Warden in DA2. I mean come on - he was insanely powerful by the end of Origins/Awakening and what could possibly threaten him or his allies? They would have to wrestle against the Maker himself by the end of DA2 (because anything less would not pose a challange) and let's face it - that would suck a big deal in almost every aspect, in my opinion.

Modifié par AleshCZ, 28 décembre 2010 - 03:12 .

[ErichHartmann]

Matchy Pointy wrote...

Am I one of the few who are happy to play a new character in DA2 and wh sees the warden's job as done, the blight ended?

I'm happy the Wardens are not the "Jedi Knights" of Dragon Age.  Gets old when a series can't move beyond one group of people or organization. 

[PinkysPain]

It's definitely not unanimous though.



I hope they pull a fast one and partway through the game my old PC comes back as the main protagonist. With my original warden facing down a foreshadowed BBEG in the final part of the trilogy in the Golden City with the entirety of existence held in the balance.



I'm a sucker for classical fantasy trilogies.



Also a reinstatement of the tactical camera, a toggle for equippable armor sets on companions, an option for less weeaboo animation sequences, a kitten, a puppy and a pony free with every copy of DA2.

[blothulfur]

My aeducan has an arling to run, a king and queen to advise, an order to rebuild and a war in the deep roads to oversee. I'd love to help you kirkwall but i'm swamped.

[SteveGarbage]

My Warden's story ended at the end of Origins anyway. That whole greatsword to the Archdemon thing and all that. It'll be kind of hard for his story to continue.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I think where the Warden's story is concerned many didn't like the open ended manner, especially after taking the warden into DAA and WH and you just disappear. I think this is what people didn't like. As much as I hate to say this, we'll likely never see our wardens again and this saddens me. Especially when Morrigan's story will pick up later, possibly for DA3 if the game comes out.



I'm still looking forward to playing Hawke and seeing the Free Marches. I just didn't like the opened endness of WH and DAA and the way it ended. If a warden didn't follow Morrigan through the mirror or kill her then I'd like to know about the book that she left and what is in it. I'm hoping we'll find something out in DA2.

[Maria Caliban]

PinkysPain wrote...

... weeaboo...

Did someone say, weeaboo?



But seriously, sometimes internet slang is like a dog when it throws up on your carpet and you're like "That's pink. What the hell did you eat?"

On a serious note, the continuous ascribing of Dragon Age 2's aesthetic to *Japan* makes me a sad panda. I'm not asking that the average internet user be familiar with the Western visual canon, but surely we've all picked up an issue of Heavy Metal? Since when is blatant sex appeal, ridiculous outfits, over-the-top violence, and impossible stunts a product of Japan?

Then again, there are no cute slurs for people who love Richard Corben.

[Jamesnew2]

dont get me wrong i look foward to playing as hawk it seems they've made an intresting plotline but for those who played mainly completing all of morrigans side quest's romance and the dlc around her it just leaves several questions e.g flemeth who has been rumoured to appear in dragon age 2 when i killed her in dragon age origins... something tells me shes the type of person to hold a grudge...

[blothulfur]

For closure I just watch that old wardens calling trailer and imagines the warden as shorter, angrier and wider.

That's the warden put to bed, on with the dragon age.

[Saibh]

If the Warden's story were continued, of course I'd be quite happy. But I don't think any happier than simply getting a brand new Dragon Age game.

To me, the Warden's story is over. Yeah it could go further, but I never expected it to. I was majorly disappointed after Witch Hunt, and felt like the true "ending" of the game could have been handled way better (WH actually got GameSpot's Worst DLC for a Good Game, er, Award). But the overall experience felt pretty complete to me.

If, say, we were suddenly to take of the reigns of some brand new plebe in ME3 instead of Shepard, then I'd be frustrated, and be getting my Nerd Rage on. I've never felt like Shepard's story was brought to a conclusion, and then it would feel like the hours spent developing and caring about this character just shot down the drain unnecessarily.

But that's not what they're doing with the Warden. If the series ended after DAO, I wouldn't have felt left hanging. I would be majorly disappointed my favorite new franchise (and possibly favorite game ever) isn't going any further, but I wouldn't be crying out for my lost Warden. To me, DAII is an extension of the Dragon Age story, which is more important than the Warden's, and something I'm very happy to see.

Modifié par Saibh, 28 décembre 2010 - 03:51 .

[TMZuk]

It would be all right to play a new character, if indeed the Warden had had some closure.

Unless you are wearing blinds, or you refuse to see, the ending of Awakening clearly points toward more to come. Furthermore, when I bought DA:O I was -promised- by Bioware at least two years of support and DLC, and I did not even get one year.

A lot of people seem to not mind that, though it is beyond me why. And frankly, it leaves me utterly uninterested in Hawke, and even if I was to find that interest, what is to prevent Bioware from pulling the same stunt again?

I cannot help but suspect that the clever marketing boys at EA or maybe Bioware itself has strongarmed Hawke through, because with a fixed, voiced protagonist and fixed outfits for the companions, it is so much easier to sell dolls and action-figures and trading-cards and litographs and clothes and what have we.

No matter what, any author writing a book and ending it as Bioware ended the warden, would find him or herself having trouble selling a second book. It remains to be seen wether gamers are more guillible than readers.

Modifié par TMZuk, 28 décembre 2010 - 03:53 .

[Fault Girl]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

I think where the Warden's story is concerned many didn't like the open ended manner, especially after taking the warden into DAA and WH and you just disappear. I think this is what people didn't like. 

That is it exactly, my Warden is a female PC, she didnt get the happy walk off with Morrigan, she just walked off somewhere, not even a slide to say back to so and so THE END.

[Ayanko]

I don't think it's over, sure they may not be playable in the game but depending on what there endings were there most likely going to show up sooner or later. Example: Morrigan romance, I have a feeling that the warden will most likely show up when she does acting as some sort of body guard, a silent one at that, following her command. I mean come on if you went through with her chances are you're going to end up like fenris/fenrir (I forgot his name) You're going to be changed, may it be done by the taint or lyrium the list goes on.

I actually think that would be a great twist, the warden being somewhat controlled by morrigan, even to go as far as forgetting his late companions and even attacking them to protect morrigan and the child.

Example:-
Companion: Warden! It's me I'm so glad you're back we've missed you and I...
Warden: ..................................... (Glare)
Companion: Don't you know who I am? Its me "____" -takes a step closer-
Morrigan: Don't take a step closer...
Companion: WHAT'S WRONG WITH HIM, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HIM? -Runs forward-
Warden: -Attacks companion-


Sweeeet

Modifié par Ayanko, 28 décembre 2010 - 04:01 .

[upsettingshorts]

TMZuk wrote...

I cannot help but suspect that the clever marketing boys at EA or maybe Bioware itself has strongarmed Hawke through, because with a fixed, voiced protagonist and fixed outfits for the companions, it is so much easier to sell dolls and action-figures and trading-cards and litographs and clothes and what have we.

Marketing doesn't work that way.

[Saibh]

TMZuk wrote...

It would be all right to play a new character, if indeed the Warden had had some closure.

Unless you are wearing blinds, or yoou refuse to see, the ending of awakening clearly points toward more to come. Furthermore, when I bought DA:O I was -promised- by Bioware at least two years of support and DLC, and I did not even get one year.

Or maybe the ending of Awakening was telling you why your Warden wasn't going to appear in the next game (since DAII was very clearly being planned at the time Awakening was made and released), while simultaneously leaving vague exactly what happens. I prefer that an epilogue card doesn't grab ahold of my character and shoehorn him or her into doing something I don't know they'd want to do. I'd rather have more back story and explanation that what could be offered in a slide.

A lot of people seem to not mind that, though it is beyond me why. And frankly, it leaves me utterly uninterested in Hawke, and even if I was to find that interest, what is to prevent Bioware from pulling the same stunt again?

It bugs me a lot. I was quite peeved when they said they were discontinuing the DLC, as well as saying that they'd never promised two years worth after DAII was announced (which they did). It wouldn't haven't been so bad if Witch Hunt were not a major disappointment.

But still, I didn't need more DLC. I would have welcomed them, but thus far, the DLC for DAO was pretty shoddy. I don't think it was very well planned-out. And, as I said, I felt the Warden's story was over.

I cannot help but suspect that the clever marketing boys at EA or maybe Bioware itself has strongarmed Hawke through, because with a fixed, voiced protagonist and fixed outfits for the companions, it is so much easier to sell dolls and actionfigures and tradingcards and litographs and clothes and what have we.

They've sold plenty of DAO memorabilia. Action figures, lithographs, letter openers, clothes, whole swords...

I think that you have an incredibly shallow, simple-minded, and petty reason for claiming why this new direction is being taken. It's one thing to not like it, it's another to try and find some scheming ulterior motive because you don't like the way their story is going.

Also, how the hell does a fixed voice make the least amount of difference in action figures?

No matter what, any author writing a book and ending it as Bioware ended the warden, would find him or herself having trouble selling a second book. It reamins to be seen wether gamers are more guillible than readers.

No, they wouldn't.

No, they wouldn't.

No they wouldn't.

Hell, the Pern series has done just fine with plenty of new protagonists, and story directions, and open endings. That one had dragons, too.

Modifié par Saibh, 28 décembre 2010 - 04:00 .

[Ymladdych]

The Warden's story isn't over; it's going to move forward and subsequent installments will reveal that information somehow. Ambient conversations and NPC dialogue are practically guaranteed, but the devs might use more direct/active methods, too. (Like, your new NPC encounters Flemeth again, and she's wearing the Warden's skull as a helmet.) In stories with a US Warden, the Orlesian Warden will probably fill in the blanks for post-Origins content.

I also believe there's a chance that the Warden will come back as a PC, but only if the devs think it's the best arc for the franchise...story-wise and gaming-wise.

Modifié par Ymladdych, 28 décembre 2010 - 04:00 .