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#51
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Vaenier wrote...

Exile Isan wrote...

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 My god, does nobody listen to Mordin? The Collector have cybernetic implants like Seran had. That's how they are controlled. It would be impossible for the Reapers to direct that energy into Shepard.



This. 

It is also how the Reapers were controlling Paul Grayson in Mass Effect: Retribution. TIM implanted Grayson with Reaper tech.

I know how they are controlled. The question is how their super powers get there. you cant beam super powers over a quantum entangelemnt link. Actually, no energy can be transfered over it, only information.

We came to the conculsion that the Reapers were dumb and only let one Collector use its super powers at a time for gameplay purposes.


 The super powers are already there. Every Collector has the potential to be a biotic, but since they are simply drones(more like husks) they don't have the neural power to create biotic fields within them. When Harbinger "ASSUMES DIRECT CONTROL" he gives them the processing power necessary to do so.

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WTH Double Post

Modifié par Zurcior, 28 décembre 2010 - 10:52 .


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Googlesaurus wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

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The Quarians have the largest fleet in the galaxy but
1. It's old as hell.
2. It's designed to protect against raids and pirates not open war.
3. It houses their entire population.


Like I said, Geth-Quarian alliance or Quarians defeat Geth and civilian population is settled in homeworld.
And since only tactic against Reaper is shoot fast, don't miss and hope to not get destroyed I think it won't matter much they are old.


Mind you, this means that the quarians must defeat the geth before they assist against the reapers. Not to mention from Legion's description Rannoch is not very habitable at this point. When the quarians left it seemed to screw up the global ecosystem. 

Rannoch is not uninhabitable. It's arid... that means dry and the Geth are working to keep the ecosystem the same out of respect for the Quarians. They could go back and there would be almost no adaptation for the Quarian physiology. There's little to no disease because there's no insect life or disease spreading vermin. The only viruses are spread by the plant life and they are just as likely to be beneficial as harmful. It's the perfect starting place for a race with weak immune systems.

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KingDan97 wrote...

Rannoch is not uninhabitable. It's arid... that means dry and the Geth are working to keep the ecosystem the same out of respect for the Quarians. They could go back and there would be almost no adaptation for the Quarian physiology. There's little to no disease because there's no insect life or disease spreading vermin. The only viruses are spread by the plant life and they are just as likely to be beneficial as harmful. It's the perfect starting place for a race with weak immune systems.


The geth maintain the buildings and clean up the post-Morning War mess; as synthetic lifeforms they have no ability to maintain the equilibrium of the native ecosystem.

That's what the quarians believe, assuming that the planet is close to the same condition as 300 years ago. Their immediate departure likely destabilized the ecological balance of the planet since native plant-life relied on symbiosis with higher-order species to survive.

Modifié par Googlesaurus, 28 décembre 2010 - 11:34 .


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I guess the Geth could save all the organic forces against the Reappers as Machine they can produce of lot of stuff and they could be use to replicate 1000s of ships. I would bet on a Geth-Quarian aliance to save us all :-)

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Personally I don't think the krogan united under wrex or not will rally around or with any of the council races automatically.

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I think Shepard will go to see the Yahg, They would listen to him, remember the reason why they killed the council tht went there. Cause the were not being truthful to them with body language and words. They could help with lack of Krogan numbers. The Council might not be happy about that but at this point who cares, your a Spectre. They seem that they are a smart species, look at the one you kill. He was trained fast then took over(killed) from the one tht trained him. To me they knidof mirror the Krogan anyway.

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^That doesn't make much sense.
Also what if you aren't Specter anymore?

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Vaenier wrote...

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^You're serious?:blink:
Magic?
Not mind controll or thing that Rachni use too?
My God.

Well, how do you supose they can transfer the energy to a Collector when they take direct remote control? if the energy is there already, why dont all collectors use it all the time? why not just tranfer the enrgy into sheps brain to fry him? if collectors are not smart enough, just write better programming.

So, are they just stupid or is it magic? You pick.


Well if the energy is there it could be hard for them to manage so they don't use it unless Harbinger is helping to manage it with his hyper advanced (ish) brain or alternatively he makes sure only he can use it to help keep the collectors from assuming direct control.

As to why he dose'nt use it to kill shep- he could want shepard alive (i think he says so im not sure.) or alternatively it requires the various cybernetics the collectors use.

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Archontor wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^You're serious?:blink:
Magic?
Not mind controll or thing that Rachni use too?
My God.

Well, how do you supose they can transfer the energy to a Collector when they take direct remote control? if the energy is there already, why dont all collectors use it all the time? why not just tranfer the enrgy into sheps brain to fry him? if collectors are not smart enough, just write better programming.

So, are they just stupid or is it magic? You pick.


Well if the energy is there it could be hard for them to manage so they don't use it unless Harbinger is helping to manage it with his hyper advanced (ish) brain or alternatively he makes sure only he can use it to help keep the collectors from assuming direct control.

As to why he dose'nt use it to kill shep- he could want shepard alive (i think he says so im not sure.) or alternatively it requires the various cybernetics the collectors use.

Do the reapers only have one remote control out in dark space? I can picture a bunch of other reapers pestering Harbringer to let them try because he keeps dieing. It just seems stupid that only one reaper is allowed to do anything and the others just sit there and wait while he gets his ass handed to him.

Reaper: "Is it my turn let? come on, you died like 100 times already, let me try!"
Harbringer: "No, its mine, go away."
Reaper: "come on, he just kicked your ass yet again on horizon"
Harbringer: "No, go away. Only I am allowed to play with the collectors."
Reaper: "you suck. i hope shep kills your stupid fetus."

Later as Harbringer is playing: "I know you feel this." ooohhh... "This hurts you" mmmm

o..o

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Vaenier wrote...

If Bioware continues to make the council a bunch of morons for the sake of this plot, I just give up...
If Rachni could build a fleet capable of doing anything to the Reapers in only a couple year from a single queen, they never would have lost the war in the first place.
Krogan cant help with Reapers. We need ships, not ground troops.
Heretics are about 15% of the entire collective. Saving them or killing them wont change much about the strength of the geth fleet. **** morality checks. I dont want to see such crap ruining the game. They should not influence who helps you. That is such a bad system, I do not understand why it even still exists... Geth wont care much either way you choose. Legion himself was divided. And a sample size of 1000 is enough for a poll to be about +/- 5% accurate for a given population.
Quarians have alot of ships, but very little fleet. And I think they will likely try to invade the peaceful Geth rather than listen to anything you have to say. Alot of their useful ships will be molten slag.
Collector base... That is a whole nother thread...
non bridging dlc: you get an email.


Vaenier, sometimes I wonder why you are on these forums. You take issue with so many things about the story. Why do you even play this game, let alone visit forums related to it...

Edit: As for on topic discussion, the Yahg would be interesting, but once again they dont have a fleet, they may be useful as ground troops, but as far as we know, they are highly violent and we cant be sre that all were trained as well as the Shadow Broker. What about the Batarians? Will they side with the Reapers or decide to support the other races of the galaxy? Maybe Balak will have something to do with this, if you let him live he could have lead his organisation to control all Batarians and there he would start making them all work against humans

Modifié par Elcirith, 29 décembre 2010 - 06:51 .


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Vaenier wrote...

Archontor wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^You're serious?:blink:
Magic?
Not mind controll or thing that Rachni use too?
My God.

Well, how do you supose they can transfer the energy to a Collector when they take direct remote control? if the energy is there already, why dont all collectors use it all the time? why not just tranfer the enrgy into sheps brain to fry him? if collectors are not smart enough, just write better programming.

So, are they just stupid or is it magic? You pick.


Well if the energy is there it could be hard for them to manage so they don't use it unless Harbinger is helping to manage it with his hyper advanced (ish) brain or alternatively he makes sure only he can use it to help keep the collectors from assuming direct control.

As to why he dose'nt use it to kill shep- he could want shepard alive (i think he says so im not sure.) or alternatively it requires the various cybernetics the collectors use.

Do the reapers only have one remote control out in dark space? I can picture a bunch of other reapers pestering Harbringer to let them try because he keeps dieing. It just seems stupid that only one reaper is allowed to do anything and the others just sit there and wait while he gets his ass handed to him.

Reaper: "Is it my turn let? come on, you died like 100 times already, let me try!"
Harbringer: "No, its mine, go away."
Reaper: "come on, he just kicked your ass yet again on horizon"
Harbringer: "No, go away. Only I am allowed to play with the collectors."
Reaper: "you suck. i hope shep kills your stupid fetus."

Later as Harbringer is playing: "I know you feel this." ooohhh... "This hurts you" mmmm

o..o


It's entirely possible that it requires special equipment or training to opperate, perhaps harbinger is a 'specialist unit' so to speak or perhaps harbinger wouldn't let anyone help out of arrogance (something Reapers seem to posess in spades)

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Quick on-toppic question

What to do about the Raloi

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^Once we get more information on them then nothing. Also they seem to have mid 20th century technology so I doubt they will be useful.



Also I highly doubt that Yagh will corporate with you.

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Mesina2 wrote...

^Once we get more information on them then nothing. Also they seem to have mid 20th century technology so I doubt they will be useful.

Also I highly doubt that Yagh will corporate with you.


fairpoint but i would find it an interesting moral choice to have to decide weather to defend the innocent Raloi, thus losing resources or leave them to die

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^That would be kinda forced choice since Raloi were never mentioned in game.

So unless next DLC or expansion pack cover them, then it would be pointless.

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was just playing ME1 and doing some side quests on the citadel when I bumbed into the quest where alliance is holding the body of 1 marine who had died on eden prime and knowing the PS3 players wont get to choose these side quest outcomes I was just wondering is Bioware gona implement some extra content for ME3 on PC & XBOX360 so we could see the effect of our decisions, I know its nothing major but it would still be pretty cool for lets say in this quest: if you allowed the alliance to keep the body you could get some small extra +5% damage protection upgrade or something similiar

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^You get nothing more then email.



Also that research was made for protection against Geth.

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Mesina2 wrote...

^That would be kinda forced choice since Raloi were never mentioned in game.
So unless next DLC or expansion pack cover them, then it would be pointless.


how would it be forced ?

Modifié par Archontor, 31 décembre 2010 - 11:49 .