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[marshalleck]

- Archangel - wrote...

Why do I suspect this is a troll...

America is what 500 years old...if you go all the way back to it's discovery?

Discovery by  Western Europeans you mean. Humans discovered the Americas many thousands of years ago. Euro-centric points of view often tend to forget or overlook that, though.

Modifié par marshalleck, 13 novembre 2009 - 06:59 .

[Sloth Of Doom]

You aren't answering the question. What part of the game "transcribe sevents as we know them with different cultures and races" ?



Because honestly, the Daish background has sweet dick-all to do with American history if you ask me. If one wanted to draw parallels it is much more similar to the way tribes in Gaul were treated by the Romans

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Draelorn wrote...

Ok, what I should have said here is that the writers took on some universal subject matter, but were kinda lazy but making it so easilly correspond to modern day. A writer's job is one of creativity, not to transcribe events as we know them with different cultures and races...I just think it's lazy writing.

And they didn't?  Yes, Elves were slaves and they suffer injustices that slaves are known to have suffered.  How do you jump to "the writers are just copying real world events and changing the names" from there?

Read some more codex entries perhaps, it explains far more about the history and backdrop of the world than the dialogue.

[Bryy_Miller]

Draelorn wrote...

Ok, what I should have said here is that the writers took on some universal subject matter, but were kinda lazy but making it so easilly correspond to modern day. A writer's job is one of creativity, not to transcribe events as we know them with different cultures and races...I just think it's lazy writing.

I'm a writer, and everything you said is wrong.

Lazy writing is lazy writing. Universal concepts are... well, universal. Don't call it lame because it's common.

[EmeraldViper]

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

There are no Americans in Ferelden.

Please though, continue to bring your own real world bigotry into the game world. Everything must be a social commentary these days.

"Everything must be a social commentary these days" - Everyones got to read something into everything these days LMAO

[Draelorn]

First bit of dialogue that yanked me out of the game actually. Otherwise I'm really happy with the writing.

[LaztRezort]

Draelorn wrote...

Ok, what I should have said here is that the writers took on some universal subject matter, but were kinda lazy but making it so easilly correspond to modern day. A writer's job is one of creativity, not to transcribe events as we know them with different cultures and races...I just think it's lazy writing.

You have a very different idea of the meaning of "lazy writing" than I do, apparently.  Transcribing events?  You mean exploring human nature (both good and evil aspects) by presenting them through the viewpoints of alien cultures?  That is the basis of speculative fiction, I believe.  I suppose one could argue that elves are not "alien enough" to present enough of a contrast to humans, and that is "lazy writing."  But I don't think that is what you are doing here.

[Bryy_Miller]

EmeraldViper wrote...

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

There are no Americans in Ferelden.

Please though, continue to bring your own real world bigotry into the game world. Everything must be a social commentary these days.

"Everything must be a social commentary these days" - Everyones got to read something into everything these days LMAO

WALL*E was liberal-commie propaganda! The Earth won't ever be not green!

[Kwonne]

Why does everything have to be about America, Draelorn?



Do you not think similar things happened elsewhere in the world as well?



Why do you draw such paralells? Why not enjoy the fantasy-world for what it is instead of bringing America/real world in the mix?

[Draelorn]

EmeraldViper wrote...

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

There are no Americans in Ferelden.

Please though, continue to bring your own real world bigotry into the game world. Everything must be a social commentary these days.

"Everything must be a social commentary these days" - Everyones got to read something into everything these days LMAO

I work with writers.  I'm a writer and an illustrator.  Let's hope our paths never cross. 

[EmeraldViper]

And don't go tooting our American horn. (I am american to).

I am personaly getting fed up with taking all the BS from the rest of the world because our leaders are such AHoles!

And 70% of the Americans that go to other countries act like AHoles and treat people in there home lands like we are better then them.

I expect people who live and come to America to speak English & Like wise if I goto a Foriegn Country I expect myself to speak there language or make an attempt to! That has always Pissed me off about out country, we are not better then anyone else, sometimes we are a lot WORSE!

[TomBrokaw]

Dwarves are american. They speak with an american accent. They are also violent, and cool.

[Bryy_Miller]

Draelorn wrote...

EmeraldViper wrote...

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

There are no Americans in Ferelden.

Please though, continue to bring your own real world bigotry into the game world. Everything must be a social commentary these days.

"Everything must be a social commentary these days" - Everyones got to read something into everything these days LMAO

I work with writers.  I'm a writer and an illustrator.  

That's very scary to me.

[EmeraldViper]

TomBrokaw wrote...

Dwarves are american. They speak with an american accent. They are also violent, and cool.

Thats why you were such a good Broadcaster Mr. Brokaw...you see through the Viel

[Mordaedil]

I still have no clue what you are referring to. I'm not an american, so maybe you're just projecting yourself into an implied relationship?



Slavery and oppresion are not unique to America by the way. EVERYONE was doing it at the same time. Probably even on a greater scale, the difference was what they did after slavery (I think most Scandinavian countries executed the former slaves, but I can't be entirely sure about that. America was progressive in that they became citizens. Sub-citizens, maybe, but still citizens, which is better than being murdered for being a person of different color.)



At least, that was what I recall from history. I could be wrong.

[Draelorn]

It was my mistake for posting this here. Unless you know of the part I'm talking about it's kinda pointless either way. What I had a problem with is way too specific for this forum. Sorry about that

[Ischkwezrn]

TomBrokaw wrote...

Dwarves are american. They speak with an american accent. They are also violent, and cool.

Yes, thats what I thought too:)

[Draelorn]

EmeraldViper wrote...

TomBrokaw wrote...

Dwarves are american. They speak with an american accent. They are also violent, and cool.

Thats why you were such a good Broadcaster Mr. Brokaw...you see through the Viel

Modifié par Draelorn, 13 novembre 2009 - 07:11 .

[Kwonne]

What exactly is this "specific" thing that is "too" specific you had a problem with Draelorn? ie "the part" you are talking about?



Do explain.

[Asparagon]

- Archangel - wrote...

Why do I suspect this is a troll...

America is what 500 years old...if you go all the way back to it's discovery?

How many thousands of years old is slavery and subjugation?

Umm the United States was made a country in 1776, by my math thats less then 250 years, 233 to be exact.  I'm curious as to where you got the 500 from.

[Chesta12345]

TomBrokaw wrote...

Dwarves are american. They speak with an american accent. They are also violent, and cool.

They also have a caste system with obvious imbalances in wealth distribution.  What could the writers be trying to tell us rhetorically?

Those dirty marxists!

[Bryy_Miller]

Draelorn wrote...

It was my mistake for posting this here. Unless you know of the part I'm talking about it's kinda pointless either way. What I had a problem with is way too specific for this forum. Sorry about that

No, the problem was the fact that you didn't actually write anything concerning your problem, just a bunch of anger-fueled words.

[Kwonne]

Not bad Guy!

Is this Cthulhu or Kraken? (Yes, i know it's supposed to be Cthulhu!)  

http://images.epilog...ry/Dreamer1.jpg

Modifié par Kwonne, 13 novembre 2009 - 07:14 .

[EmeraldViper]

Slavery was not only about color. There was slavery before the slave trade from Africa.

Jewish, Asian, Poor it was all over in the Ancient world. The weaker became slaves, Conquered Clans, Peoples, Religions, Tribes all became slaves in some cultures. And it still goes on today, Solmalia, Afghanistan, Asia, Hookers, Gangs. Its just hidden better.

[Sloth Of Doom]

Wings=Cthulu