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[Draelorn]

Belevorn wrote...

*wakes up, takes a look at some american-centric guy, yawns and goes back to sleep shaking his head, being glad to live in Spain*

I was just talking about lazy writers bro, no need to sell out your country.  Not quite lunchtime there...kinda early for a nap no?

[ScreamingPalm]

Not sure why everyone is acting so shocked, not the first time political overtones have infiltrated pop culture. You right wingers have no reason to be so hypocritical, look what you bastards did to Batman! You turned him into Dick Cheney!  Pretty cool though, I had no idea that Lou Dobbs played video games.

Oh and WALL-E was actually found in a capsule. Apparently it was a message sent from the future.

[Bryy_Miller]

Draelorn wrote...

Belevorn wrote...

*wakes up, takes a look at some american-centric guy, yawns and goes back to sleep shaking his head, being glad to live in Spain*

I was just talking about lazy writers bro, no need to sell out your country.  

Wait, what are you on about now?

[FFLB]

Asparagon wrote...

- Archangel - wrote...

Why do I suspect this is a troll...

America is what 500 years old...if you go all the way back to it's discovery?

How many thousands of years old is slavery and subjugation?

Umm the United States was made a country in 1776, by my math thats less then 250 years, 233 to be exact.  I'm curious as to where you got the 500 from.

Psst! Don't point that out to him. It's obvious why he thinks America is 500 years old. He's from the Future.:innocent: Let us just sit here and soak in any tidbits of knowledge that he may drop due to a slip of the mind. I've heard that time traveling does that to you.

In regards to the topic, did anyone else enjoy the real-life social parallels of the Mages in which super-powered beings are locked away from the general populace and threatened with death at the slightest mis-step? No more stones and persecution for you, would-be sorcerors and witches!  In DA's Circle of the Magi, you actually have power! So when someone throws a stone at you, you can throw a fireball at them in kind. Watch out for the templar though. Those Holy Smites can smart.

[Sloth Of Doom]

Belevorn wrote...

No no, Leliana is the french one, Zevhran is just... weird. Btw, I'm still curious about what inspired Mr. Gaider to think about Ferelden... if Orlais is France (names and culture resembles a lot to renacentist France), and Nevarra is kind-of inspired in Spain... (we even have a province called Navarra) What inspired Ferelden? Germany, could be? :/

Feudal England, most likely, although germany is aso possible.

Semi-isiolationist feudal society with a long standing emnity towards thier closest neighbours (in both caes, the french). 

Most Feredans speak with an English accent.

Modifié par Sloth Of Doom, 13 novembre 2009 - 08:24 .

[Belevorn]

Draelorn wrote...

Belevorn wrote...

*wakes up, takes a look at some american-centric guy, yawns and goes back to sleep shaking his head, being glad to live in Spain*

I was just talking about lazy writers bro, no need to sell out your country.  Not quite lunchtime there...kinda early for a nap no?

*laughs* 9:21 am here! I should be sleeping yet being as lazy as I am. About lazy writers... I think they got inspired by many things. After all, when I went for the Urn of the Sacred Ashes, at the end I was humming Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade tunes... It's not about what they used to write their story, is about how they make it fit to create an amazing background for DA 

[Draelorn]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Draelorn wrote...

Belevorn wrote...

*wakes up, takes a look at some american-centric guy, yawns and goes back to sleep shaking his head, being glad to live in Spain*

I was just talking about lazy writers bro, no need to sell out your country.  

Wait, what are you on about now?

Oh nothing.  I should sleep.  I will say one thing though.  When you're on the internet and you have an opinion, it's best to go to sleep.

Modifié par Draelorn, 13 novembre 2009 - 08:32 .

[V0IDWALKER]

Go go PLANET AMERICA, around which all thing revolve

[ScreamingPalm]

V0IDWALKER wrote...

Go go COLBERT NATION, around which all thing revolve

Edited for truthiness.

[Shannara13]

Draelorn wrote...

Belevorn wrote...

*wakes up, takes a look at some american-centric guy, yawns and goes back to sleep shaking his head, being glad to live in Spain*

I was just talking about lazy writers bro, no need to sell out your country.  Not quite lunchtime there...kinda early for a nap no?

OMG they included slavery in thier world, they are lazy lazy lazy.

[Rothgar49]

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[SamoanX]

Rothgar49 wrote...

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You've no idea how much i laughed when i saw this

This is serious business! no laughing here!

....AMERICA~ **** YEAH~......

[Draelorn]

night all

Modifié par Draelorn, 13 novembre 2009 - 09:22 .

[Memengwa]

good morning...



I almost swallowed my coffee the wrong way reading this thread...

Woke me up.. thanks

[Dragonlanxe]

Hahahhahahaa Yerh America suxs, and everything ever done wrong is your fault!
Bla Bla Bla.
Troll Troll Troll.
Plz reply.... lol

Tbh Draelorn you have some issues man Get real. It's not like US is the only nation in the world suppressing someone. WW2? (This is where it all began. The early fantasy worlds where created around WW2 where you had to fight, in order to restore peace and escape world annihilation)(Or WW1, but that's a different story then).

And if u look at it, the human race have seen themselves superior to other races in many game/fantasy worlds.

Modifié par Dragonlanxe, 13 novembre 2009 - 10:06 .

[lordhugorune]

Injustice and oppresion are realities, and they happen in Ferelden as well as in the real world. It doesn't mean that specific cases of injustice and/or oppression in Ferelden are in any way meant to draw parallels of specific cases of injustice/oppression in the real world - and really anyone who attempts to do so is drawing a very long bow. It's simply the writers attempting - and succeeding - in making the world credible. On the other hand, it would have been very sad if Ferelden had been sanitised and turned into some bland black&white good vs evil world.

[mrofni]

Actually, you could easily make some parallels to WW II. Dwarf Origins match up pretty easily with Communist Russia, even the fight against the Dark Spawn could be compared to fighting the na-zi's in Stalingrad, even if the tactics are wrong. The clear difference between the social classes, even the redistribution of wealth.

The situation of the Humans and City Elves could also be compared to na-zi Germany and the Jews, you know, right before they started the mass slaughtering. Although, the Humans aren't as clearly united as na-zi Germany was, and the City Elves are more united then the Jews were in the situation.

The Wood Elves can easily be compared to the French-African force, fighting in honor of France despite it already conquered. Although, the elves had their city completely destroyed and the time extent is far greater.

And the Mages can be compared to Nuclear Scientists. They were working on the most dangerous of all things and they had to do exactly as they were told. If they ever try to leave or just stop working altogether, they were at great risk to being locked up or killed, in fear of them going to the other side. Pretty similar to the Mages working with demonic magic, and they can never leave for the fear of them becoming demons, or in other words, "going to the other side."

Modifié par mrofni, 13 novembre 2009 - 10:12 .

[Errel]

lordhugorune wrote...

Injustice and oppresion are realities, and they happen in Ferelden as well as in the real world. It doesn't mean that specific cases of injustice and/or oppression in Ferelden are in any way meant to draw parallels of specific cases of injustice/oppression in the real world - and really anyone who attempts to do so is drawing a very long bow. It's simply the writers attempting - and succeeding - in making the world credible. On the other hand, it would have been very sad if Ferelden had been sanitised and turned into some bland black&white good vs evil world.

The Empire in Star Wars was soooooooo a parralel to the Third Reich

[dannythefool]

And these forums are a parallel to a psychiatric clinic

[Dragonlanxe]

Just edited my post

It's the early fantasy worlds that´s refering to WW2 and WW1. And thous early fantasy worlds are the inspiration used in creating the new worlds (such as DA:O and LOTR, Even WOW).

[FlintlockJazz]

Belevorn wrote...

No no, Leliana is the french one, Zevhran is just... weird. Btw, I'm still curious about what inspired Mr. Gaider to think about Ferelden... if Orlais is France (names and culture resembles a lot to renacentist France), and Nevarra is kind-of inspired in Spain... (we even have a province called Navarra) What inspired Ferelden? Germany, could be? :/

Feudal England, hell they even included the anti-French attitude with Loghain and the occupation parallels the Norman conquest in some ways.

[Dragonlanxe]

dannythefool wrote...

And these forums are a parallel to a psychiatric clinic

Hahahaha so true

[Woodstock2004]

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Belevorn wrote...

No no, Leliana is the french one, Zevhran is just... weird. Btw, I'm still curious about what inspired Mr. Gaider to think about Ferelden... if Orlais is France (names and culture resembles a lot to renacentist France), and Nevarra is kind-of inspired in Spain... (we even have a province called Navarra) What inspired Ferelden? Germany, could be? :/

Feudal England, hell they even included the anti-French attitude with Loghain and the occupation parallels the Norman conquest in some ways.

Scotland, not England. They all have Scottish names; Duncan, Alistair, Loghain and the ones mentioned in the Codex too, Cormac etc.

[CraigCWB]

I kinda agree with the OP even though I'm not sure what specifically he is talking about. The moralizing in today's games is kinda like what parents teach children. It's seems very cliche to me as an adult who has been playing this games since the 1980s. Since Bioware used to pull on the heart strings with more subtlety, I assume they have come to the conclusion that their customers now are mostly 12 year olds. Which may or may not be true. But if so, how does one explain the heavy sexual content? Hmmm... well, anyway...

[rilzic]

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