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[PoisonTea]

I absolutely love Mass Effect 1 and am having a great time playing (even with all it's horrible bugs).  I enjoy the vast epic feel, the multitude of dialogue options and the long intricate storyline.  The exploration is also a blast.

However I've heard that Mass Effect 2 has lost it's vast feel, it's lost it's intricate dialogue options and now it's just a standard shooter with a very weak storyline, not even a story from what I hear just a bunch of sidequests.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

[habitat 67]

It's quite possible to like them both just as you may like both peanut butter AND mint chocolate chip ice creams.

[Aglazzboi]

Just play the game everyone doesnt have the same taste as you.

[habitat 67]

Hot dogs AND hamburgers...

[habitat 67]

Jalapenoes AND pepperoni as pizza toppings.

[Weskerr]

PoisonTea wrote...

I absolutely love Mass Effect 1 and am having a great time playing (even with all it's horrible bugs).  I enjoy the vast epic feel, the multitude of dialogue options and the long intricate storyline.  The exploration is also a blast.

However I've heard that Mass Effect 2 has lost it's vast feel, it's lost it's intricate dialogue options and now it's just a standard shooter with a very weak storyline, not even a story from what I hear just a bunch of sidequests.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

In my opinion, the argument that ME2 lacks the epicness of ME1 or a well delivered story is overblown. It has some truth to it, but not enough to ruin your enjoyment of the game. Believe me, ME2 is worth playing and an absolute masterpiece of gaming.

Modifié par Weskerr, 29 décembre 2010 - 07:22 .

[Schneidend]

ME2 is an excellent game. Don't let the melodramatic "TRUE FANS" ruin the game for you before you've even tried it.

[PoisonTea]

Ok then guys, my faith has been restored.  Mandarin & Mexican!

[sympathy4saren]

ME2 is a great game. It is a little different, but still damn good.

[habitat 67]

PoisonTea wrote...

Ok then guys, my faith has been restored.  Mandarin & Mexican!

You got it.  

[Matt VT Schlo]

Dont let the whiners get you down. Play it for youself and judge it that way.....its different, but excellent

[flem1]

There are a lot of whiners who like to hang around the forums. It's actually a much better game than the original.

[sympathy4saren]

Except for a lot of rpg elements got simplified or eliminated. The ME2 Defense Brigade tries to squash this legitimate criticism.

[Gibb_Shepard]

PoisonTea wrote...

I absolutely love Mass Effect 1 and am having a great time playing (even with all it's horrible bugs).  I enjoy the vast epic feel, the multitude of dialogue options and the long intricate storyline.  The exploration is also a blast.

However I've heard that Mass Effect 2 has lost it's vast feel, it's lost it's intricate dialogue options and now it's just a standard shooter with a very weak storyline, not even a story from what I hear just a bunch of sidequests.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

ME2 is an excellent game. But yes, it's now very shootery with a weak storyline, comprising of many unnecessary side missions.

It also lost a lot. There's no more vehicle, no more inventory, no more weapon customisation, no more elevators (replaced with a myriad of loading screens), no more vast expansive citadel, barely any stat based mechanics. Some call this stuff streamlining the game, i don't though.

Other than that, everythings been upgraded, play it, i'm pretty sure you'll love it. Just don't expect the level of exploration or intricate storyline of ME1. And expect A LOT of shooting.

Modifié par Gibb_Shepard, 29 décembre 2010 - 07:50 .

[Destroy Raiden_]

I could sugar coat it but my mom told me not to lie...to me it does lack the vastness on 1 the ME plot felt more movie epic. ME2’s plot is like a novel and mediocre though I’ve played far worse plot wise but it’s not stellar and it’s not trash so you’ll have to decide that on your own.



As far as dialogue it’s still there but not as intimate as what you had in ME1 no long life stores or too much talking to the characters on their fears or hopes.



As far as shooter elements being overwhelming you’ll have to figure that one for yourself my opinion is that yes shooter portions have been kicked up lots of point A to point B corridor shooting just take cover and shoot until your enemy is dead except on Tuchanka no cover more fun during Grunt’s mission.



If you like the economy dealings in one buying, selling, getting licenses that’s mostly gone you can buy stuff that’s it. If you loved the mako and being boots on the ground to get minerals it's gone replaced by a lovely scanner...unless you get the DLC firewalker you aren't touching that ground unless it's on a main or sidequest mission.



The inventory has been shaved some love it I don’t, but that again would be a personal matter for you to decide.



As far as the story being all glorified side quests you get 5 main quest missions and 12 squad mates and 12 loyalty/glorified side quests to do for them so you’ll have to play it run it a few times and figure out if you count those 12 as missions or side quest can you guess which one I choose?



Overall there are worse games out there, there are more rushed games out there, like fallout new Vegas I’m finding so many clitches and poor voice acting already but the lovable voice actors you knew from one are all there, Garrus and Tali aren’t completely amnesia victims, and there aren’t a lot of noticeable glitches a few invisible floors and walls but I think I’ve encountered them fewer then others but who knows. You should if nothing else get the game for the stellar DLC Overlord and Shadow Broker those have great graphics, scripting, and were tons of fun I think they were the best part of the whole ME2 they’re starting to bring back that movie feel 2 was lacking for me. So rent if from gamefly if you like it buy it if you don’t return it.

[IrishSpectre257]

ME2 lost ME1's ability to create an illusion, and the emphasis on the series' main plot. Instead the story is like a collection of short stories that flesh out our squad.

Don't let the streamlined approach fool you. Gameplay-wise, ME2 is just as deep as ME1 (which isn't much). Just with a lot less menus.

I do agree that it doesn't feel as...vast, as ME1. Which is probably a side-effect of it being a break from the main plot, but still. It might also be because there are no empty planets to drive around.

Modifié par IrishSpectre257, 29 décembre 2010 - 07:53 .

[PoisonTea]

sympathy4saren wrote...

Except for a lot of rpg elements got simplified or eliminated. The ME2 Defense Brigade tries to squash this legitimate criticism.

Ok see this is what I'm worried about.

I LOVED, absolutely loved the intricate mystery and storyline on Noveria. It was complex as hell but the most fulfilling part of the game.

It also lost a lot. There's no more vehicle, no more inventory, no more
weapon customisation, no more elevators (replaced with a myriad of
loading screens), no more vast expansive citadel, barely any stat based
mechanics. Some call this stuff streamlining the game, i don't though.

Ouch..... If I want a pure shooter I'll go play call of duty black ops MULTIPLAYER.

Modifié par PoisonTea, 29 décembre 2010 - 08:16 .

[rma2110]

ME2 is more than worth the price. I must have played through it at least 5 times.

[Matchy Pointy]

PoisonTea wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...

Except for a lot of rpg elements got simplified or eliminated. The ME2 Defense Brigade tries to squash this legitimate criticism.

Ok see this is what I'm worried about.

I LOVED, absolutely loved the intricate mystery and storyline on Noveria. It was complex as hell but the most fulfilling part of the game.

It also lost a lot. There's no more vehicle, no more inventory, no more
weapon customisation, no more elevators (replaced with a myriad of
loading screens), no more vast expansive citadel, barely any stat based
mechanics. Some call this stuff streamlining the game, i don't though.

Ouch..... If I want a pure shooter I'll go play call of duty black ops MULTIPLAYER.

Personally, I loe both games. ME is better in some ways, ME2 in others, and I would never play one of them and not play the other. So I say, ME2 is a great fame, as ME is a great game.

[Phaedon]

Oh,look it's the vocal minority again.

I have no idea what your taste in video games is,but ME2 is not a pure shooter, it's still a hybrid RPG/shooter, with actually playable combat and less focus on the traditional RPG elements (No more s***ton of inventory items that are basically the same). The RPG element is still strong, if not stronger, with the introduction of paragon/renegade interrupts.

While the main idea behind the story may not be as compelling as ME1's, it's still an amazing story, but it's character based this time. What this means, is, that your characters have actual development this time, and the way you treat them will impact the game later on.

All in all, yes, ME2 was prefered by most reviewers and gamers, read a review not the random rant of a customer.

Modifié par Phaedon, 29 décembre 2010 - 08:44 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

Phaedon wrote...

Oh,look it's the vocal minority again.

I have no idea what your taste in video games is,but ME2 is not a pure shooter, it's still a hybrid RPG/shooter, with actually playable combat and less focus on the traditional RPG elements (No more s***ton of inventory items that are basically the same). The RPG element is still strong, if not stronger, with the introduction of paragon/renegade interrupts.

While the main idea behind the story may not be as compelling as ME1's, it's still an amazing story, but it's character based this time. What this means, is, that your characters have actual development this time, and the way you treat them will impact the game later on.

All in all, yes, ME2 was prefered by most reviewers and gamers, read a review not the random rant of a customer.

So ME2 can't be criticised? Because people find issues with ME2 (pretty much the main issues most have come to a consensus of) their opinion is a "random rant" that is invalidated by reviewers? ME2 is a great game, just as everyone in this thread has acknowledged , but in this forum we get down to the nitty gritty of things. Something the reviewers don't. And when it comes down to the nitty gritty of things, ME2 DID lose many RPG elements, it DID lose plot depth, it DID lose exploration.

Now just to make sure you're hearing me, ME2 is a GREAT game, but that DOES NOT mean it can't be criticised, and that it does not have flaws. OP asked a question, and these people gave you their opinions, and then backed them up with their experience of the game and what most have come to the consensus of. You come in bashing the original and backing up your opinion with slightly (EVER so slightly) higher reviews of the second game.

Just to re-iterate to make sure you don't brand me a hater, like so many do when ME2 is critcised, ME2 is a GREAT game. But it DOES have flaws.

[Mister Mida]

Thank goodness we got demos these days.

[Phaedon]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
So ME2 can't be criticised? Because people find issues with ME2 (pretty much the main issues most have come to a consensus of) their opinion is a "random rant" that is invalidated by reviewers? ME2 is a great game, just as everyone in this thread has acknowledged , but in this forum we get down to the nitty gritty of things. Something the reviewers don't. And when it comes down to the nitty gritty of things, ME2 DID lose many RPG elements, it DID lose plot depth, it DID lose exploration.

Now just to make sure you're hearing me, ME2 is a GREAT game, but that DOES NOT mean it can't be criticised, and that it does not have flaws. OP asked a question, and these people gave you their opinions, and then backed them up with their experience of the game and what most have come to the consensus of. You come in bashing the original and backing up your opinion with slightly (EVER so slightly) higher reviews of the second game.

Just to re-iterate to make sure you don't brand me a hater, like so many do when ME2 is critcised, ME2 is a GREAT game. But it DOES have flaws.

First of all, constructive criticism is good, and yes, there are threads for that, but if you go around the forums on random places and post stuff like 'lol not including Hackett was another dumbification', then that's a random rant and should not be taken into consideration.

We can discuss about what RPG elements are in another thread, and that would indeed be very interesting, seeing as you are a mature poster unlike some others, but no, for me, pointless stats=/=RPG elements. I didn't call anyone on this thread part of the vocal minority. The OP clearly said 'This forum has me worried now', and if you think that this is because of the people who post constructive criticism and not that particular group, well I don't know. And my point still stands, OP, if you want to read a good review, read one written by a professional, and don't listen to the same id- well people who pop in every thread and say 'Awesome lol no, have a link to my thread'. 

[Ravanofdarkness]

Hopefully, we will see alot of the RPG Elements that were in Mass Effect 1 return in Mass Effect 3. Specially the Exploration, sure it was kinda boring in Mass Effect 1 because alot just lookt the same with diffrent Texture Colors but it didn't mean we wanted it to get removed... more like Improved and blend out from the Diffrent Planets adding Building etc... Also the Stores and Character Customization was some what better in Mass Effect 1. They just made it to much of a Shooter then an RPG. Hopefully BioWare/EA will return what made Mass Effect 1 and 2 Amazing Games in Mass Effect 3 and add alot more stuff to it and keep it Single-Player RPG Based.

[DaringMoosejaw]

You know what? Don't play the game if you're so scared. Listen to all these anonymous boobs and just ignore it. Whatever. I enjoyed ME1 and ME2 thoroughly (Except for the goddamned hill climbing in ME1, Jesus). It really must suck to be someone who can't enjoy both.