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[royceclemens]

PoisonTea, look at it this way:

ME1 is The Hobbit, where a hero goes on a long journey with a band of followers to stop an ancient evil.

ME2 is The Canterbury Tales, where you learn the stories of a large group of wildly different people as they travel from point A to point B.

Both are, to say the least, dissimilar.

Both are classics.

And there is your answer.

Modifié par royceclemens, 29 décembre 2010 - 01:28 .

[wildannie]

Th3 Trench wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

notice all the ME2 haters have a Dragon Age Avatar

I never noticed that before, actually. Not that it means anything anyway.

it means that pure or classic RPG system lovers like DA don't like the changes made to me2 thinking it's not an  RPG anymore

I love ME1, ME2 & DA,   But I'm also all for sweeping generalizations 

[SithLordExarKun]

Wow, the "true fans" really treat ME1 like the pinnacle of video gaming and honestly its extremely sickening, more so than the rabbid ME2 defenders.



ME1 had a "vast universe"? You mean the barren lifeless feel of the UNC missions made the universe feel "vast" despite being so empty? Its so "vast" being filled with sparsely populated colonies? Exploration? Was there even exploration in ME1? All i recall from ME1's "explorable" UNC missions was driving around the same planet with a different texture heading into the same pirate base time and again.



And story? Yeah sure, the story had a better structure than ME2's but the actual plot is incredibly cliche. I don't see why DAO getting crapped on for its overly generic story yet ME2 has a huge load sprayed on it.

[Da_Lion_Man]

I didn't see anyone here treating ME1 like the pinnacle of gaming.

[MassEffect762]

Aglazzboi wrote...

Just play the game everyone doesnt have the same taste as you.

/Thread


lol, same old same old.

[Khayness]

You have fed the troll 3 pages.

But please do play ME2, so you can grace us with even more angry yelling threads, such as dying on Benezia, Thresher Maws, wrong elevator announcements.

[Encarmine]

damn straight SithLordExarkun

[SithLordExarKun]

Jorina Leto wrote...





Yeah the new combat system sucks.

Oh yes it does because ME1's combat was apparantly so "revolutionary' that its combat system is apprantly better than every single shooter out there(COD, BC2, Battlefield, Crysis etc etc) Typical RPG snob you are.

[SithLordExarKun]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

I didn't see anyone here treating ME1 like the pinnacle of gaming.

Its all over the forums.

[habitat 67]

Jorina Leto wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

Ok, just dying to know what game you'd give a 10?

If I ever find one, I'll post it.

Wow, really?
How about a game you'd give a 9? My curiosity deepens.

[Da_Lion_Man]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

I didn't see anyone here treating ME1 like the pinnacle of gaming.

Its all over the forums.

Yeah but not in this thread... besides to me it sounds more like people complaining ME2 isn't as good as ME1, doesn't have to mean they think ME1 is the best game ever in their books.

[SithLordExarKun]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

I didn't see anyone here treating ME1 like the pinnacle of gaming.

Its all over the forums.

Yeah but not in this thread... besides to me it sounds more like people complaining ME2 isn't as good as ME1, doesn't have to mean they think ME1 is the best game ever in their books.

Oh it will be soon enough, it will be.

[Da_Lion_Man]

habitat 67 wrote...

Jorina Leto wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

Ok, just dying to know what game you'd give a 10?

If I ever find one, I'll post it.

Wow, really?
How about a game you'd give a 9? My curiosity deepens.

What's so wrong with that? I like his/her way of thinking. I don't give my games an easy 9 or 10 either. 9 to me is a truly superb game and 10 is just simply perfect IMO.

[oldgodbioware]

god no offence but your only finishing mass effect 1 now! also the game dosen't have many ''teribble'' bugs.

[Khayness]

oldgodbioware wrote...

god no offence but your only finishing mass effect 1 now! also the game dosen't have many ''teribble'' bugs.

Check the OP's previous closed rant threads.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

SithLordExarKun wrote...
Wow, the "true fans" really treat ME1 like the pinnacle of video gaming and honestly its extremely sickening, more so than the rabbid ME2 defenders.

ME1 had a "vast universe"? You mean the barren lifeless feel of the UNC missions made the universe feel "vast" despite being so empty? Its so "vast" being filled with sparsely populated colonies? Exploration? Was there even exploration in ME1? All i recall from ME1's "explorable" UNC missions was driving around the same planet with a different texture heading into the same pirate base time and again.

And story? Yeah sure, the story had a better structure than ME2's but the actual plot is incredibly cliche. I don't see why DAO getting crapped on for its overly generic story yet ME2 has a huge load sprayed on it.

Note that none of what you're saying nullifies the claim that ME1 had vastness and exploration.
Just because you didn't like what was in the large spaces or didn't think the exploration yielded particularly interesting results doesn't mean they didn't exist.
Saying that the UNC planets are all "the same planet with a different texture" is like me saying that all ME2 areas are the same hallway with a different color scheme and different crate locations. In a word, it's melodramatic and inaccurate.  Because I remember there being quite a bit of exploration in ME1.  Resource deposits, bases, satellite wreckage, interesting landmarks, thresher maws, alien relics, beautiful views, etc.

Saying ME1's story is cliched can not work as a defense for ME2. ME2's story is the ultimate cliche of stopping a villain's evil plan, and that's ALL it is. There are no plot twists, no interesting developments for the villains, nothing. It's just the most basic A plot that can possibly be told tied to a plethora of inconsequential B plots.

[habitat 67]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

Jorina Leto wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

Ok, just dying to know what game you'd give a 10?

If I ever find one, I'll post it.

Wow, really?
How about a game you'd give a 9? My curiosity deepens.

What's so wrong with that? I like his/her way of thinking. I don't give my games an easy 9 or 10 either. 9 to me is a truly superb game and 10 is just simply perfect IMO.

I inferred nothing regarding the possibility of a 10 game existing, rather I was just curious as to what Jorina's example of an exceptionally good game is (mabye I'd want to play such a fabulous game  if I haven't yet).

So... what's your 10 then Da (or 9)?

[Da_Lion_Man]

habitat 67 wrote...

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

Jorina Leto wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

Ok, just dying to know what game you'd give a 10?

If I ever find one, I'll post it.

Wow, really?
How about a game you'd give a 9? My curiosity deepens.

What's so wrong with that? I like his/her way of thinking. I don't give my games an easy 9 or 10 either. 9 to me is a truly superb game and 10 is just simply perfect IMO.

I inferred nothing regarding the possibility of a 10 game existing, rather I was just curious as to what Jorina's example of an exceptionally good game is (mabye I'd want to play such a fabulous game  if I haven't yet).

So... what's your 10 then Da (or 9)?

Lol why do you want to know that so badly?

Anyway, I think I'd give Planescape: Torment, Metal Gear Solid 3 and Chrono Trigger a 10. I loved all of those games so much and I still play them every once in a while. Feel free to disagree if you want, it's just an opinion.

Then again, I don't think those games are perfect... but at least they're close. Again just an opinion.
What would you give a 10?

[Pedro Costa]

Jorina Leto wrote...Yeah the new combat system sucks.
It's just a corridor shooter with some RPG elements.

Boohoo, I now have to strategize a little and think about the situation I'm in when I could just spam biotics in Mass1.
As if that was not enough, now I also have to actually point to where I want to hit instead of relying on a random algorithm to do the work for me!
Never mind those people who actually were pointing their bloody weapons to some Krogan's head in Mass1 and ended up dying anyway because of that same bloody algorythm.

You have to rely on indestructible couches to take cover, because Shepard dies now much faster. Everything else is just suicide, even on casual.

Yes, that's why most people here have completed insanity+ multiple times with pretty much every class and some even have the audicity (imagine it) of saying it isn't all that hard past the first third of the game.
You're not being factual here, you're being biased to your own preferences and shortcomings.

The overheat system was replaced with a generic ammo system, but they called them heat sinks.

boohoo they took my infinite ammo away! now I have to strategize a little bit more!

Inventory is gone.

It's not "gone" per se, it is made in such a way that you don't have to carry anything. But I get your point and agree with it.

[hawat333]

PoisonTea wrote...

I absolutely love Mass Effect 1 and am having a great time playing (even with all it's horrible bugs).  I enjoy the vast epic feel, the multitude of dialogue options and the long intricate storyline.  The exploration is also a blast.

However I've heard that Mass Effect 2 has lost it's vast feel, it's lost it's intricate dialogue options and now it's just a standard shooter with a very weak storyline, not even a story from what I hear just a bunch of sidequests.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

You're both wrong and right.
ME2 leans more toward shooters - but it also has a great storyline. The main plot itself is a bit weaker - but the endgame makes up for it. What at first seems to be just side missions - is actually the means of your survival.

Generally, yeah, it's more of a shooter than an RPG, it has fewer choices, decisions to make, but it's also a bridge between the first one and the endgame. I'd suggest to play it, because you won't be disappointed in the game.

[CaptainZaysh]

PoisonTea wrote...

I absolutely love Mass Effect 1 and am having a great time playing (even with all it's horrible bugs).  I enjoy the vast epic feel, the multitude of dialogue options and the long intricate storyline.  The exploration is also a blast.

However I've heard that Mass Effect 2 has lost it's vast feel, it's lost it's intricate dialogue options and now it's just a standard shooter with a very weak storyline, not even a story from what I hear just a bunch of sidequests.

Please tell me I'm wrong.

You're wrong, it's awesome, you will love it.

[SithLordExarKun]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...


Note that none of what you're saying nullifies the claim that ME1 had vastness and exploration.

According to you?

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
Just because you didn't like what was in the large spaces or didn't think the exploration yielded particularly interesting results doesn't mean they didn't exist.

Just because you like what was in the large space and think that the 'exploration' yielded particulary interesting results doesn't mean they did exist. I don't see how driving around in a barren terrain with the same base yields as exploration. Everytime i land on a planet in ME1 i know what to expect and where to go.

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
Saying that the UNC planets are all "the same planet with a different texture" is like me saying that all ME2 areas are the same hallway with a different color scheme and different crate locations.

Only problem is each ME2 area stood out from one another that actually not only looked, but felt different and didn't involve storming the same bunker 10 times over. Besides, GREAT strawman argument. I wasn't arguing how ME2 areas are 10x better than ME1's crappy UNC planets but rather arguing that "exploration" was essentially non existant in ME1.

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
In a word, it's melodramatic and inaccurate.

Like every delusional ME1 fanatic and RPG elitist out there?

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
  Because I remember there being quite a bit of exploration in ME1.  Resource deposits, bases, satellite wreckage, interesting landmarks, thresher maws, alien relics, beautiful views, etc.

Right and every planet having the same things which is marked on your map doesn't count as exploration, especially when you're driving on the very same terrain with a different texture. You want to know whats exploration go look at games like Red dead redemption or FO3 and new vegas, you actually explore a sandbox and when you find a new town that isn't marked on you're map, there are substantial things to do other than "pick up the same deposit" in every UNC world and storm into the same bunker.

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
Saying ME1's story is cliched can not work as a defense for ME2.

How is it even a defence to begin with? I'm just pointing how cliche ME1's story is despite how some delusional pricks treat it as such an OMGWTFBBQ awesome story which it isn't.

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
ME2's story is the ultimate cliche of stopping a villain's evil plan, and that's ALL it is.

And ME1's isn't? Wow nice double standards here, bravo!

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...
There are no plot twists,

So the collectors being *SPOILER* isn't a plot twist? That the harbinger collector wasn't *SPOILER* all along? You know what im talking about. There wasn't ANY plot twists in ME1 either but rather they felt more like revelations.

[Bocks]

Just play the game with low expectations. You will be surprised and enjoy it the first time. Afterwards you can learn and discuss any flaws it has.

[nelly21]

Op, play the game and see if you like it for yourself. Make up your own mind.



These forums are not a good reference for the game. Go out and read reviews (not just website reviews, look at amazon customer reviews, gamestop customer reviews, gamefly reviews as well). You will see that the overwhelming majority of people consider it superior to ME 1.



Does that mean you'll like it? Not necessarily. But make up your own mind.