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#76
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errant_knight wrote...

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There was, at least allegedly, some kind of bug that messed up the chin.


I can buy that as being at least part of the problem. The mouths were absurdly small. I don't think it's the whole thing, though. It may be a stylistic choice.


I'd suggest it had to be something of a design choice since the CGI Isabela also has quite an impressive jaw going on.

Modifié par Winter Wraith, 29 décembre 2010 - 09:03 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

Long ago, in a distant land, I, Flemeth, the shapeshifting master of Darkness unleashed an unspeakable evil (picture of god baby); but a foolish female warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I threw open a portal in time and flung her into the future, WHERE MY EVIL IS LAW! Now that fool seeks to return to the past and undo the future that is Flemeth.


SAMURAI HAWKE!

Now all we need is the Dalish Welshman.

:wizard:

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It's great when we can all come together and not take ridiculous threads seriously. Warms the heart!

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GodWood wrote...

Isabela from a less unflattering angle.

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Ignore the blood.


Personally, I think all female bisexual rogue love interests should be introduced when covered in gore, and I'm glad BioWare agrees!

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Maria Caliban wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Isabela from a less unflattering angle.

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Ignore the blood.


Personally, I think all female bisexual rogue love interests should be introduced when covered in gore, and I'm glad BioWare agrees!


Holy ****... I hadn't seen that. That's f*cking ugly.

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JL81 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Isabela from a less unflattering angle.

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Ignore the blood.


Personally, I think all female bisexual rogue love interests should be introduced when covered in gore, and I'm glad BioWare agrees!


Holy ****... I hadn't seen that. That's f*cking ugly.


Don't worry buddy. Modding community will make all your fantasies come true. :)

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D.Kain wrote...

JL81 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Isabela from a less unflattering angle.

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Ignore the blood.


Personally, I think all female bisexual rogue love interests should be introduced when covered in gore, and I'm glad BioWare agrees!


Holy ****... I hadn't seen that. That's f*cking ugly.


Don't worry buddy. Modding community will make all your fantasies come true. :)


I'm sure they will :o

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SandyWB wrote...

About Isabella... In this thread Darkhour posted a revamp that I think illustrates quite well how Isabella's face could be improved.
http://img841.images.../newisabela.jpg


Ya, that was a revamp I did a while back as that was the only shot we really had to go off of..  However, now that I've seen some new views of her from the gamespot reveal and the inventory shots I think she's fine.. I might tweek her a bit if we get a toolset, but so far she looks much improved from that original shot.. Chin could still use a good trimming off though.

Modifié par Revan312, 29 décembre 2010 - 10:44 .


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JL81 wrote...
Holy ****... I hadn't seen that. That's f*cking ugly.

What is it that you find ugly exactly?

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JL81 wrote...
Holy ****... I hadn't seen that. That's f*cking ugly.


That seems like quite an overreaction, it must be said.

Still, each to their own I suppose.

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She's not a 10 out of 10 != I must now gouge my eyes out.

I don't think Isabela in the above image is smokin' hot. I do think she's pretty. I know the first thing I do after installing the game is switch it to widescreen view and disable the persistent gore.

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For some reason, I think Isabela's nose is adorable.

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Hmm.. I just noticed now that its mostly the girls that are satisfied with Avelines looks.
Anyway I think Aveline looks alright.. I mean she's a... How do I word it? Handsome woman, I mean she won't win any beauty pagents anytime soon. But she's quite respectable looking..

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 30 décembre 2010 - 12:47 .


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Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Hmm.. I just noticed now that its mostly the girls that are satisfied with Avelines looks.


Men tend to be more concerned about looks than women. If I see a group of women criticizing a woman's appearance, my first assumption is that she's a looker.

Anyway I think Aveline looks alright.. I mean she's a... How do I word it? Handsome woman, I mean she won't win any beauty pagents anytime soon. But she's quite respectable looking..


I think there's a gap between Aveline's concept art and her in-game appearance. In the screenshots we've seen, her face is softer with more delicate features, and her body doesn't look that different from that of FemHawke. Her arms might be more muscular but they're covered up as soon as we get to Kirkwall.

I wish she was taller than the average woman.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

I wish she was taller than the average woman.

It would be nice if she was a little bit taller. Though if it makes it easier for cutscenes and such then I am fine with her not being taller. That and perhaps some scars would be the only thing I would really change about Aveline.

Isabela can't really think of anything in-particular I would change. Well... Perhaps the colour of the bandanna, to a warmer colour. Though I am sillily obsessive with colour themes and like the general trend of warmer colours in DA2. :P

Modifié par Sigil_Beguiler123, 30 décembre 2010 - 01:01 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...
I wish she was taller than the average woman.


That's the problem with fixed character models. Aveline ought to be at least eye-level with a male Hawke, at least if you ask me.

ETA:

...And if it was me, I'd give Isabella pants. :lol:

Modifié par In Exile, 30 décembre 2010 - 01:01 .


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Eclipse_9990 wrote...
Hmm.. I just noticed now that its mostly the girls that are satisfied with Avelines looks.


I assume not every woman here is interested in making Aveline another notch on the bedpost so perhaps some, possibly even the majority, are judging her on very different criteria.

And no, I'm not implying every guy wants to make her a notch either.

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Heh. I think they did alright with Isabella. (And I like her nose in that picture too)

Leliana was supposed to look very attractive but her default face in Origins was kinda creepy. Weird mouth proportions mostly.

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Maria Caliban wrote...
I wish she was taller than the average woman.

I love tall women.

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GodWood wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
I wish she was taller than the average woman.

I love tall women.

I love tall redheads. B)

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In Exile wrote...
...And if it was me, I'd give Isabella pants. :lol:

I'm neutral on pants. Fine as she is, fine if she had pants. Though if she had them definitely have to be awesome looking leather pants.

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Her boots are so long that she doesn't need pants anyway.

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Personally I'd prefer Isabela to have more clothes but mostly due to the design potential rather than any specific issue with her.

Modifié par Winter Wraith, 30 décembre 2010 - 01:08 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Hmm.. I just noticed now that its mostly the girls that are satisfied with Avelines looks.


Men tend to be more concerned about looks than women. If I see a group of women criticizing a woman's appearance, my first assumption is that she's a looker.

Anyway I think Aveline looks alright.. I mean she's a... How do I word it? Handsome woman, I mean she won't win any beauty pagents anytime soon. But she's quite respectable looking..


I think there's a gap between Aveline's concept art and her in-game appearance. In the screenshots we've seen, her face is softer with more delicate features, and her body doesn't look that different from that of FemHawke. Her arms might be more muscular but they're covered up as soon as we get to Kirkwall.

I wish she was taller than the average woman.


Hmm I don't know about the looks thing.. When I was in Highschool not a day went by  when I didn't see a girl criticizing another about how they looked/what they wore or whatever.
Then again there were guys who did that too though they were mostly black guys that made fun of your sneakers or tshirt brand or something..

Actually I have no problem with Avelines concept art she looks quite cute to me but I've always had a thing for freckled girls so I'm biased on this. As for the height thing.. Yes I agree she should be a bit taller, atleast a little taller than male hawke or the same height.

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GodWood wrote...

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Holy ****... I hadn't seen that. That's f*cking ugly.

What is it that you find ugly exactly?


Well, that's personal, but I detest this gypsy look.
As for the chin thing, I too find it to be weird looking. She just doesn't look normal. Totally unattractive to me. Eww.

Yeah, that's more like a Steven Seagal chin. And I'm not talking about Steven Seagal from the early 1990s. More the overweight Seagal of his DTV era.

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Modifié par JL81, 30 décembre 2010 - 01:11 .