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[BiancoAngelo7]

Definitive things that do and dont carry over:



You get to keep:



-Any personal armor you have found

-Any weapons you have found



You do NOT get to keep:



-Any kind of upgrades, whether they be for your ship, your armor, crew whatever. NO UPGRADES TRANSFER.



-All of your paragon/renegade points go back to zero, zip, nada.



-Ship models in your cabin as well as quest rewards such as artifacts whatever



-The rooms on the normandy don't even stay open. They all shut again until you find the corresponding crew mate.

So basically New game plus lets you start a new game with any of the armor pieces you "found" (theres like 5 total to get from shops) and weapons you pick up. Everything else goes back to zero. It's pretty much the worst new game plus ever done in the history of games imo.



If you have the PC version of ME2, then this can be remedied by modding the coalesced ini file. It is not that hard.



however, in your case getting the PS3 version if you really care about this then you are screwed. Sorry.

[didymos1120]

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...
-Ship models in your cabin as well as quest rewards such as artifacts whatever

Oh yeah. I forgot those.  And of course, your fish don't make it through the time-loop either. Or the space-hamster.

It's pretty much the worst new game plus ever done in the history of games imo.

Well, that's because it was taken off the feature list pretty early in development (it may not have even been on at all), and was only tacked on at the last minute.

[BringerOfChaos]

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

Definitive things that do and dont carry over:

You get to keep:

-Any personal armor you have found
-Any weapons you have found

You do NOT get to keep:

-Any kind of upgrades, whether they be for your ship, your armor, crew whatever. NO UPGRADES TRANSFER.

-All of your paragon/renegade points go back to zero, zip, nada.

-Ship models in your cabin as well as quest rewards such as artifacts whatever

-The rooms on the normandy don't even stay open. They all shut again until you find the corresponding crew mate.
So basically New game plus lets you start a new game with any of the armor pieces you "found" (theres like 5 total to get from shops) and weapons you pick up. Everything else goes back to zero. It's pretty much the worst new game plus ever done in the history of games imo.

If you have the PC version of ME2, then this can be remedied by modding the coalesced ini file. It is not that hard.

however, in your case getting the PS3 version if you really care about this then you are screwed. Sorry.

That is the worst newgame +

It doesn't even make sense that they let you keep all of your other stuff but not the upgrades.

[BringerOfChaos]

didymos1120 wrote...

OK, I just did a quick NG+ to make sure of the details:

Weapons. Those all carry over. Shepard has to wait a little bit to get access to them all, but they are there waiting for you. However, other characters in the intro missions will have them equipped if that's what they were using when you beat the game.

The one-piece armor suits. Those carry over. If Shep is wearing one when you beat the game (or was in the post-game save you imported from), then when you first get the new armor (you always wear the old ME1 stuff in the very beginning no matter what), NG+ Shep will be wearing it too.

The various armor components. Those carry over. Again, if you're wearing any of them when you beat the game (or in whatever post-game save you used), you'll be wearing them in the beginning of a new game plus.

There are various upgrades for the ship and a few for specific squadmates. These don't carry over.

There are upgrades you either buy or find for weapons, armor, and Shepard (the damage increases, extra protection, etc.). These don't carry over.

Your level, unspent squad points, and current XP carry over.

Your money and minerals don't carry over. You get the achievement bonuses (200,000 creds and 50,000 of each mineral).

Any medi-gel over 3 doesn't carry over (because that extra medi-gel is from capacity upgrades, and upgrades don't carry over). Still, you do start with 3 medi-gel , which is 3 more than a standard new game gets.

Paragon/Renegade points don't carry over.

For some reason, fuel and probes do carry over....kind of. You normally get a fill-up of both as part of the bonuses, but if you bought the upgrades and have over 1000 fuel and over 30 probes in the save you used to import, you'll have that extra fuel and those extra probes when you get access to the Normandy, even though it can't carry that much yet.

I didn't check this bit specifically, but IIRC, the extra fuel just behaves normally and can all be used. The probes, however, are different (and I'm sure about this part): once you fire a probe, the game will get wise and set your probes down to thirty, so you essentially just get one free probe. At least it does that on the PC. Not sure if these same bugs exist on the 360 or if they behave the same way if they do.

Aren't armor attachments technically upgrades?

Do skill points carry over? 
Don't the biotic powers upgrade with your skills?

[Aggie Punbot]

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Do skill points carry over? 
Don't the biotic powers upgrade with your skills?

Yes you keep all your skills.

[BringerOfChaos]

TS2Aggie wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Do skill points carry over? 
Don't the biotic powers upgrade with your skills?

Yes you keep all your skills.

 

Aren't biotic powers upgraded with skills?

Can someone answer the armor question? 

[Evelinessa]

BringerOfChaos wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Do skill points carry over? 
Don't the biotic powers upgrade with your skills?

Yes you keep all your skills.

 

Aren't biotic powers upgraded with skills?

Can someone answer the armor question? 

You get to customize your armor in this game so the armor attachments arn't upgrades. Say you buy a visor and a different chestpiece, The visor could give you 5% headshot damage while the chestpiece could give you 5% shields. There are all different armor parts you can buy and they help your stats in someway while your wearing them. You can actually see what the different armor piece looks like. It's not like a JRPG where you change your armor and your character is still wearing the default outfit. The upgrades are more permanet. Once you buy/research them they stay with your character, unlike the armor where you only get the benefits while wearing it. You can also research different weapons and things for your squad, plus vital ship upgrades.

[BringerOfChaos]

Evelinessa wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Do skill points carry over? 
Don't the biotic powers upgrade with your skills?

Yes you keep all your skills.

 

Aren't biotic powers upgraded with skills?

Can someone answer the armor question? 

The upgrades are more permanet. Once you buy/research them they stay with your character, unlike the armor where you only get the benefits while wearing it. You can also research different weapons and things for your squad, plus vital ship upgrades.

I heard that there was a heavy skin weave?  
 
I have to buy that right? Does that carry over? 

What do you mean exactly when you say upgrades are more permanent? I thought armor upgrades didn't carry over.

[Aggie Punbot]

Considering the fact that you wouldn't even get anything carried over until you finished the game at least once, why don't you try playing it first to see if you even like it enough to want to play NG+?

Quite frankly, if everything carried over I wouldn't even bother playing NG+ because it would be boring.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 30 décembre 2010 - 10:30 .

[BringerOfChaos]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Considering the fact that you wouldn't even get anything carried over until you finished the game at least once, why don't you try playing it first to see if you even like it enough to want to play NG+?

Quite frankly, if everything carried over I wouldn't even bother playing NG+ because it would be boring.

If I don't like it then I just blew 60 bucks. 

Adding a real newgame+ wouldn't have destroy the game. Everyone would've won. People who didn't like it could've just played a regular new game and people who didn't could do NG+

Instead we get this:

Newgame - check

Free roam - check

Newgame - lol nope deal with it ****

[BringerOfChaos]

Did my post go up? I don't see it.
[edit] it did I see it now

Modifié par BringerOfChaos, 30 décembre 2010 - 10:45 .

[Evelinessa]

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Evelinessa wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Do skill points carry over? 
Don't the biotic powers upgrade with your skills?

Yes you keep all your skills.

 

Aren't biotic powers upgraded with skills?

Can someone answer the armor question? 

The upgrades are more permanet. Once you buy/research them they stay with your character, unlike the armor where you only get the benefits while wearing it. You can also research different weapons and things for your squad, plus vital ship upgrades.

I heard that there was a heavy skin weave?  
 
I have to buy that right? Does that carry over? 

What do you mean exactly when you say upgrades are more permanent? I thought armor upgrades didn't carry over.

No the upgrades don't carry over.

The heavy skin weave is a researchable upgrade.

You have to buy the armor components and some upgrades, but there are other upgrades that you can find by exploring an area. But for those you have to spend resources to unlock.

By more permanent I meant that for armor components you only get the bonuses by having them equiped but for upgrades once you research them they are stuck to your character. You don't have to worry about equiping them and you can research all the upgrades. While with armor you can only wear so many pieces at once.

Yeah, the game doesn't have a great New Game + but it's a great game with so much replay value that it doesn't even need a New Game +. If you're not sure if you'll like the game then I suggest you that you watch some videos on youtube of people playing it. Also, I recommend that you don't read too much in some of the other forums since there are a lot of spoilers there.

[BringerOfChaos]

Evelinessa wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Evelinessa wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Do skill points carry over? 
Don't the biotic powers upgrade with your skills?

Yes you keep all your skills.

 

Aren't biotic powers upgraded with skills?

Can someone answer the armor question? 

The upgrades are more permanet. Once you buy/research them they stay with your character, unlike the armor where you only get the benefits while wearing it. You can also research different weapons and things for your squad, plus vital ship upgrades.

I heard that there was a heavy skin weave?  
 
I have to buy that right? Does that carry over? 

What do you mean exactly when you say upgrades are more permanent? I thought armor upgrades didn't carry over.

No the upgrades don't carry over.

The heavy skin weave is a researchable upgrade.

You have to buy the armor components and some upgrades, but there are other upgrades that you can find by exploring an area. But for those you have to spend resources to unlock.

By more permanent I meant that for armor components you only get the bonuses by having them equiped but for upgrades once you research them they are stuck to your character. You don't have to worry about equiping them and you can research all the upgrades. While with armor you can only wear so many pieces at once.

Yeah, the game doesn't have a great New Game + but it's a great game with so much replay value that it doesn't even need a New Game +. If you're not sure if you'll like the game then I suggest you that you watch some videos on youtube of people playing it. Also, I recommend that you don't read too much in some of the other forums since there are a lot of spoilers there.

And those armor components/body augmentations don't carry over? Even though they aren't upgrades?

What replay value exactly? When I played the demo the only class I really liked was the soldier.
The best class would've had tech armor/vanguard charge/soldier load out. 
^ imagine that class 
I would've came all over the tv screen

If I get this game, knowing full well my upgrades don't carry over... I won't ever even buying them in the first place.
No armor upgrades.
No weapon upgrades.
No ship upgrades.
On insanity (Insanity on the demo was lol easy)

Renegade to reflect my pissed of nature at the ****ty newgame+
I know that this probably means that everyone will die at the end, but who gives a ****?
I **** every Alien **** i find then let them die at the end like a boss. 
Some men just want watch the world burn. 

I'd play every newgame/newgame+ exactly like that because you can't miss what you never had.
**** planet scanning. It can suck both of my hairy balls.

Naturally, because of my fun being fueled by raw hate, I'll never really like ME2.
I wanna get it at launch because I had a hell of a lot of fun in the demo. I should've never went to google and found out about this steaming pile of rhino ****.

I was disapoint. 

Hope they don't tack on NG+ in ME3.

 

[BringerOfChaos]

Brandon lee Shepard wrote...

dude me2 is the best game i have ever played if you pass up on it because a few upgrades dont carry over you are stupid and you will be disapointed and if you dont like it return it for your money damn doeseny anyone shop at gamestop

I thought something had to be wrong with the game to return it?

I only played through Fallout 3 once because it didn't have newgame+ 
Didn't get vanquish for the same reason.

I'm still not 100% about not get ME2.

I'll wait until I hear more information. The odds aren't in ME2's favor though. 

[Evelinessa]

BringerOfChaos wrote...

 And those armor components/body augmentations don't carry over? Even though they aren't upgrades?

What replay value exactly? When I played the demo the only class I really liked was the soldier.
The best class would've had tech armor/vanguard charge/soldier load out. 
^ imagine that class 
I would've came all over the tv screen

If I get this game, knowing full well my upgrades don't carry over... I won't ever even buying them in the first place.
No armor upgrades.
No weapon upgrades.
No ship upgrades.
On insanity (Insanity on the demo was lol easy)

Renegade to reflect my pissed of nature at the ****ty newgame+
I know that this probably means that everyone will die at the end, but who gives a ****?
I **** every Alien **** i find then let them die at the end like a boss. 
Some men just want watch the world burn. 

I'd play every newgame/newgame+ exactly like that because you can't miss what you never had.
**** planet scanning. It can suck both of my hairy balls.

Naturally, because of my fun being fueled by raw hate, I'll never really like ME2.
I wanna get it at launch because I had a hell of a lot of fun in the demo. I should've never went to google and found out about this steaming pile of rhino ****.

I was disapoint. 

Hope they don't tack on NG+ in ME3.

 

I'm not totally sure what carries over since I've never done new game plus. I've heard the upgrades don't carry over but I'm not sure about the armor componets.

By replay value I was talking about all the choices in the game:

• What class you play
• What background you choose for your character
• Are you more paragon or renegade? Paragade or renegon? Maybe just neutral?
• Male or female character
• What romance you choose
• Who you let live or die in the suicide mission
• What different choices you pick during a characters loyalty mission
• What major choices you pick or your final choice
• What sidequests you do and their outcome

Different things like that. You can play two playthroughs and have them be completely different from each other.

If you do the upgrades your character becomes much more powerful for that playthrough, even if it doesn't carry over. You don't even want to research weapons? There is a heavy weapon called the Cain and it is described as a "nuke launcher".

Why are you going to play a Sci-fi game with a lot of aliens if you hate them? And ME2 isn't all about combat. It's an rpg, not just a shooter.

[Evelinessa]

Also there is a lot of dialogue. Probably at least half the game is. So the game isn't all about combat.

[BringerOfChaos]

Evelinessa wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

 And those armor components/body augmentations don't carry over? Even though they aren't upgrades?

What replay value exactly? When I played the demo the only class I really liked was the soldier.
The best class would've had tech armor/vanguard charge/soldier load out. 
^ imagine that class 
I would've came all over the tv screen

If I get this game, knowing full well my upgrades don't carry over... I won't ever even buying them in the first place.
No armor upgrades.
No weapon upgrades.
No ship upgrades.
On insanity (Insanity on the demo was lol easy)

Renegade to reflect my pissed of nature at the ****ty newgame+
I know that this probably means that everyone will die at the end, but who gives a ****?
I **** every Alien **** i find then let them die at the end like a boss. 
Some men just want watch the world burn. 

I'd play every newgame/newgame+ exactly like that because you can't miss what you never had.
**** planet scanning. It can suck both of my hairy balls.

Naturally, because of my fun being fueled by raw hate, I'll never really like ME2.
I wanna get it at launch because I had a hell of a lot of fun in the demo. I should've never went to google and found out about this steaming pile of rhino ****.

I was disapoint. 

Hope they don't tack on NG+ in ME3.

 

I'm not totally sure what carries over since I've never done new game plus. I've heard the upgrades don't carry over but I'm not sure about the armor componets.

By replay value I was talking about all the choices in the game:

• What class you play: Only really like one.
• What background you choose for your character: Does that really even matter?
• Are you more paragon or renegade? Paragade or renegon? Maybe just neutral?: Yeah
• Male or female character:Nope
• What romance you choose: lol no
• Who you let live or die in the suicide mission: Everyone dies. Everytime.
• What different choices you pick during a characters loyalty mission: Screw them. They'll die anyway.
• What major choices you pick or your final choice:???
• What sidequests you do and their outcome:No newgame +/won't effect ME3

Different things like that. You can play two playthroughs and have them be completely different from each other.[*]I doubt that they'd be that different. 

If you do the upgrades your character becomes much more powerful for that playthrough, even if it doesn't carry over. You don't even want to research weapons? There is a heavy weapon called the Cain and it is described as a "nuke launcher".[*]Picking one weapons destroys the point of playing as a soldier.

Why are you going to play a Sci-fi game with a lot of aliens if you hate them? [*]I love aliens. You probably didn't get what I said because of the stupid ****ing censoring this forum has. And ME2 isn't all about combat. It's an rpg, not just a shooter.

I appreciate all of the help, bro. People here actually answered my questions.

Modifié par BringerOfChaos, 31 décembre 2010 - 12:52 .

[Arken]

Evelinessa wrote...

Also there is a lot of dialogue. Probably at least half the game is. So the game isn't all about combat.

Not half. In Mass Effect 1 ten out of the possible thrity hours game time were dialogue. I think Mass Effect 2 is about the same balance. So the game is really 1/3 dialogue. Off topic I know, but I just found this out when I did a speed playthrough without listening to dialogue.

On-Topic: The bonus from beating the game will help you get back a lot of the early things so it is not big thing.

Besides you are getting the PS3 version so beat the Lair of the Shadow Broker mission early and you will get a little hub that gives you resources every real world day.

[fmsantos39]

Starting a newgame already in lvl 30, all weapons, armor and bonus mineral reseasrch and credits is already a good thing, you don't really need the armor/weapon upgrades, with a good talent built and skill you are almost invencible in some classes.

[BringerOfChaos]

Arken wrote...

Evelinessa wrote...

Also there is a lot of dialogue. Probably at least half the game is. So the game isn't all about combat.

Not half. In Mass Effect 1 ten out of the possible thrity hours game time were dialogue. I think Mass Effect 2 is about the same balance. So the game is really 1/3 dialogue. Off topic I know, but I just found this out when I did a speed playthrough without listening to dialogue.

On-Topic: The bonus from beating the game will help you get back a lot of the early things so it is not big thing.

Besides you are getting the PS3 version so beat the Lair of the Shadow Broker mission early and you will get a little hub that gives you resources every real world day.

How early can you start to upgrade?

[BringerOfChaos]

fmsantos39 wrote...

Starting a newgame already in lvl 30, all weapons, armor and bonus mineral reseasrch and credits is already a good thing, you don't really need the armor/weapon upgrades, with a good talent built and skill you are almost invencible in some classes.

There was no point in not letting them carry over. 
Not to mention enemies scale with you.

If I can't keep them, I don't want them at all. Not upgrading my gear forces the bad ending on me and makes me miss a part of the game.

Can you pick the color schemes of your weapons?

Modifié par BringerOfChaos, 31 décembre 2010 - 12:56 .

[Arken]

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Arken wrote...

Evelinessa wrote...

Also there is a lot of dialogue. Probably at least half the game is. So the game isn't all about combat.

Not half. In Mass Effect 1 ten out of the possible thrity hours game time were dialogue. I think Mass Effect 2 is about the same balance. So the game is really 1/3 dialogue. Off topic I know, but I just found this out when I did a speed playthrough without listening to dialogue.

On-Topic: The bonus from beating the game will help you get back a lot of the early things so it is not big thing.

Besides you are getting the PS3 version so beat the Lair of the Shadow Broker mission early and you will get a little hub that gives you resources every real world day.

How early can you start to upgrade?

You need to finish the prologue and recruit The Scientist. The Lair of the Shadow Broker mission is not unlocked until about mid-game so the bonus should hold you over for a little.





You can't alter your weapons color scheme, but you can change your armor's color scheme and choose two different patterns or no pattern.

Modifié par Arken, 31 décembre 2010 - 01:03 .

[BringerOfChaos]

Arken wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Arken wrote...

Evelinessa wrote...

Also there is a lot of dialogue. Probably at least half the game is. So the game isn't all about combat.

Not half. In Mass Effect 1 ten out of the possible thrity hours game time were dialogue. I think Mass Effect 2 is about the same balance. So the game is really 1/3 dialogue. Off topic I know, but I just found this out when I did a speed playthrough without listening to dialogue.

On-Topic: The bonus from beating the game will help you get back a lot of the early things so it is not big thing.

Besides you are getting the PS3 version so beat the Lair of the Shadow Broker mission early and you will get a little hub that gives you resources every real world day.

How early can you start to upgrade?

You need to finish the prologue and recruit The Scientist. The Lair of the Shadow Broker mission is not unlocked until about mid-game so the bonus should hold you over for a little.





You can't alter your weapons color scheme, but you can change your armor's color scheme and choose two different patterns or no pattern.

Is it possible to go through the game without upgrading at all?
That's probably the only way I can deal with this.
Say I'm a soldier and I use the following:

Blood Dragon armor
M-15 Vindicator
M-98 widow anti-material rifle
M-920 Cain
M-300 Claymore
^would those carry over or would they disappear into oblivion.


lol why do all of the weapons ****ing upgrade with Platinum

That a huge load of derp.

[DaVanguard]

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Arken wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Arken wrote...

Evelinessa wrote...

Also there is a lot of dialogue. Probably at least half the game is. So the game isn't all about combat.

Not half. In Mass Effect 1 ten out of the possible thrity hours game time were dialogue. I think Mass Effect 2 is about the same balance. So the game is really 1/3 dialogue. Off topic I know, but I just found this out when I did a speed playthrough without listening to dialogue.

On-Topic: The bonus from beating the game will help you get back a lot of the early things so it is not big thing.

Besides you are getting the PS3 version so beat the Lair of the Shadow Broker mission early and you will get a little hub that gives you resources every real world day.

How early can you start to upgrade?

You need to finish the prologue and recruit The Scientist. The Lair of the Shadow Broker mission is not unlocked until about mid-game so the bonus should hold you over for a little.





You can't alter your weapons color scheme, but you can change your armor's color scheme and choose two different patterns or no pattern.

Is it possible to go through the game without upgrading at all?
That's probably the only way I can deal with this.
Say I'm a soldier and I use the following:

Blood Dragon armor
M-15 Vindicator
M-98 widow anti-material rifle
M-920 Cain
M-300 Claymore
^would those carry over or would they disappear into oblivion.


lol why do all of the weapons ****ing upgrade with Platinum

That a huge load of derp.

the first thing is why are you using blood dragon, terminus is the way to go for the soldier class.
You cant get both the Claymore and widow..

and yes the armor and weapons all import to Ng +

Modifié par DaVanguard, 31 décembre 2010 - 01:19 .