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#26
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Is this the day that all of these posts resurge?

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Cobrawar wrote...

I think bioware is foolish to abandon the old school style rpg's. Instead of capitalizing on what was in origins and making it better, they seem to be going in a totally different direction. Honestly why should I give a rats ass about hawke, I want my character to be the hero.

If there was any smart game companys out there, they should take advantage that bioware is dropping the old school rpg. There are so many ways you could improve upon origins and make it and even better game, its kinda sad


The fail is strong in this one.

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Cobrawar wrote...

Honestly why should I give a rats ass about hawke, I want my character to be the hero.


Hawke is your character.

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PsychoBlonde wrote...

Black splortches meant it was SPIRIT.

I was half-way through the game before I realised this; and that was by process of elimination, after several hours earlier having noticed that the splash effects varied and I had the crazy notion that maybe those splash effects meant something. Visuals can never substitute a combat log. I will be a happy panda the day developers go back to using combat logs (I fully expect to remain a sad panda for years to come).


Upsettingshorts wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

How can an opinion be incorrect?


Very easily. It's pretty common, actually.

By definition, an opinion cannot be incorrect. They are frequently very misinformed, however.

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Maconbar wrote...

What is a hardcore rpg gamer?


A man who has forsaken friends/family/sex to devote his life to roleplaying hot elf chicks.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 30 décembre 2010 - 07:23 .


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DSerpa wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

splortches


Image IPB


Splortches are what you call stains on Schleets.

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nelly21 wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

How can an opinion be incorrect?


I think the sun is blue. Am I correct?


you would if you made that question a few billion years earlier.

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nelly21 wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

How can an opinion be incorrect?


I think the sun is blue. Am I correct?


Color is just a bias formed of limited perception,  The sun is just as much blue as it is anything else, so technically,  yes you are.

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ErichHartmann

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I'm so hardcore I try to enjoy an RPG based on its individual merits and not misguided nostalgia about the past.

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I don't like hawke . I don't like the way he looks I don't like the way he uses his powers. IU want to be who I want to be . Its all about control and the player loses control. Why would I want to be the same hero as everyone else on this board

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Cobrawar wrote...

I don't like hawke . I don't like the way he looks I don't like the way he uses his powers. IU want to be who I want to be . Its all about control and the player loses control. Why would I want to be the same hero as everyone else on this board


Because every game forces you to be the same hero as everybody else on this board?

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Face of Evil wrote...

Maconbar wrote...

What is a hardcore rpg gamer?


A man who has forsaken friends/family/sex to devote his life to roleplaying hot elf chicks.


Sweet I am almost hardcore then.

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relhart wrote...

Color is just a bias formed of limited perception,  The sun is just as much blue as it is anything else, so technically,  yes you are.

You are distorting facts somewhat. The light emitted by the sun falls within a certain colour spectrum. That colour spectrum can be named, whether or not you are physically able to perceive it.

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relhart wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

How can an opinion be incorrect?


I think the sun is blue. Am I correct?


Color is just a bias formed of limited perception,  The sun is just as much blue as it is anything else, so technically,  yes you are.


Well technically, the sun is not as much blue as it is anything else.  Hot Black Body radiation models the light coming from the sun pretty well and it's intensity vs. wavelength peaks in the yellow range (forget the exact wavelength) and weakens in intensity to both sides of that peak wavelength point.  But now I'm trying to fight opnions with science and I'm allergic to fire while tied to a wooden post.

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Cobrawar wrote...

I don't like hawke . I don't like the way he looks I don't like the way he uses his powers. IU want to be who I want to be . Its all about control and the player loses control. Why would I want to be the same hero as everyone else on this board

Then be who you want to be. No one is stopping you, and if you honestly think that because your last name is Hawke you automatically are the same everyone else, that's already flawed. You mean to say your Amell, Cousland, or so on and forth isn't the same to all the others on the board?

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exoproto wrote...

You mean to say your Amell, Cousland, or so on and forth isn't the same to all the others on the board?


I don't know about you, but I'm the real Cousland.

All the rest of you are Time Paradox copies and are doomed.  DOOMED!  I even have the proof, this board is registering in the giga-doom particles.

(sorry, watched some Futurama last night).

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Snoteye wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Black splortches meant it was SPIRIT.

I was half-way through the game before I realised this; and that was by process of elimination, after several hours earlier having noticed that the splash effects varied and I had the crazy notion that maybe those splash effects meant something. Visuals can never substitute a combat log because I am horribly unobservant and can't make logical connections.


Fixed.

If you really have this much trouble making basic deductions, maybe you should stick with text-based games.  Me, I'd rather have the visual/auditory clues because I can't read 10 lines of text in a quarter of a second.

Maybe they should just have a pop-up that yells "YOU'RE TAKING SPIRIT DAMAGE BOZO!!!"

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lv12medic wrote...

exoproto wrote...

You mean to say your Amell, Cousland, or so on and forth isn't the same to all the others on the board?


I don't know about you, but I'm the real Cousland.

All the rest of you are Time Paradox copies and are doomed.  DOOMED!  I even have the proof, this board is registering in the giga-doom particles.

(sorry, watched some Futurama last night).

You, sir, win the internet.

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lv12medic wrote...

I don't know about you, but I'm the real Cousland.


I'm the real slim shady.

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-no toolset on realease

-no strategy camera (we get a hybrid camera)

-no origins

-limited creation?



+more graphics

+voice for main character



.........

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jairohhh wrote...

-no toolset on realease


DAO wasn't going to get this either if the release hadn't been significantly delayed.

jairohhh wrote...

-limited creation?


Aside from the limited racial origins - as you mention - creation has been (slightly) expanded, not limited.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 30 décembre 2010 - 07:45 .


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Toolset was released because DA:O was delayed for ages, DA2 hasn't been delayed for ages yet.

Iso view is replaced with something else, though I can understand why some might hate it.

Origins are replaced with a more personal plot.

What do you mean limited creation?



There are tradeoffs for everything, both positive and negative.

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DAO is the only BioWare release with multiple origins and the second game with a toolset (NWN being the first). Infinity Engine based games never had one.

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relhart wrote...

I agree with most of what you say, expect to be heavily flamed around these parts for sharing your opinion though.

I also tend to agree, but realistically, little will change this close to launch. At this point, they're probably just polishing up, and they're clearly very happy with their new direction and style. This is something that we just have to accept. We can count on the story being good, though, and who knows? Maybe DA3 will be just as different and in a way that those of us who find this direction unfortunate will find pleasing. Crazier things have happened, and they're not afraid of drastic change from game to game.

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People are a little... unhappy about the lack of toolset, aren't they? But, and I may be wrong, the toolset was released for other factors, meaning... Bioware has no obligation to release the toolset, yes? Then, why people are complaining?