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[Lenimph]

Maria Caliban wrote...

nijnij wrote...

According to the wiki, Rivaini are "dark-skinned"(as opposed to Fereldans I suppose). Considered Duncan was half Rivaini, we can expect Isabela to be somewhat darker than him. It's true the differences between the various screenshots and trailers are quite confusing, but all in all, I think she has a Latin/mideastern vibe.

She might be a bit darker or the same or a bit lighter. I wouldn't mind if she were darker skinned.

Esmeralda is quite the temptress 

[TJPags]

filaminstrel wrote...

TJPags wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Dellingr wrote...

I recall a writer saying somewhere that she did have a similar skin tone and hair colour in Origins but the lighting in her little nook of the Pearl made it difficult to tell

I remember that too.

Found it hard to believe then, also.

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I remember that thread - or one very like it.  I'm sure if I searched all 40 or whatever pages that is, I'd find a post of mine expressing my incredulity with the statement that they're the same woman.

I still feel that way, but I've stopped letting it bother me.

I'm just referring to the image in the first post supporting the notion that she does indeed have a similar skin tone without the Pearl's lighting, regardless of how different she looks otherwise.

Ahh, okay.

Yes, her skin tone does seem darker in the toolset picture than in the Pearl - since I'm on the 360, I'd never seen that before it was posted in the various Isabela threads here.  Her hair also doesn't look as red.

However, she still - to me - doesn't look remotely the same - not the same skin tone, hair color, body shape, etc.

But, that's not the point of this thread, and as Chris Priestly just said, "her skin tone is correct for someone from her part of Thedas who spent a lot of time in the sun" ™.  So let it be written, so let it be accepted.  I don't want to derail this into another "why did you change her?" thread.

Modifié par TJPags, 31 décembre 2010 - 05:28 .

[jlb524]

Who cares?

[Maria Caliban]

jlb524 wrote...

Who cares?

The thread starter. The people discussing the matter.

[jlb524]

Maria Caliban wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Who cares?

The thread starter. The people discussing the matter.

Oh, I guess that's not me *flees*

[Sabariel]

Atakuma wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Paranoia. I don't recall Sten ever looking like just a black guy, IIRC his hair was different in that trailer, but no other major differences.

I never noticed that Sten's eyes are blue. Observant me!

[Sarielle]

Sabariel wrote...

I never noticed that Sten's eyes are blue. Observant me!

I'd call that purple....lol!

[Heather Cline]

If you've played DA:O she was olive skinned but caucasian. She is still olive skinned Caucasian in the second game. Not specifically white but not african american either.

[Gabey5]

no

[Gill Kaiser]

Heather Cline wrote...

If you've played DA:O she was olive skinned but caucasian. She is still olive skinned Caucasian in the second game. Not specifically white but not african american either.

How could she possibly be African-American?

[Fortlowe]

Diversity is always at a premium in videogames, especially those based on euro centric mythical archetypes like Dragon Age. I don't expect it, but it would be an awfully happy suprise if somewhere down the line (of course this also would require the Dragon Age franchise to have some awfully long legs) that Thedas and it's European based civilization would not be the whole of the Dragon Age world.
Native Americans, Indians, Africans, Middle Easterners, Asians, Aboriginals, Pacific Islanders, all have very rich cultures ripe for exploration, I think. A good example was the television series 'Avatar: The Last Airbender' (the show not the dreadful film). There was presented a rich fantasy universe wholly seperate from the euro centric norm. Dragon age could use this shows example as a template to incorporate other culture bases into the Dragon Age narrative. Already, Bioware has demonstrated an ability to explore other cultures with Jade Empire. I haven't played it myself, but from the adoration so many have for the game, I imagine it's narrative is at least as rich, if not as deep as that of Dragon Age. Indeed, I've seen on these boards on more than one occasion discussion from posters and dev's about the concept of merging the narratives of the two properties.
It's nice that Izzie and Duncan have a dark complexion, I like that, still, the culture they hale from is a proxy of Italians. Having a culture in the game that was truly an analogue of an African culture (Ethiopian or Nubian or perhaps even Egyptian), peopled mainly by folk with unquestionably African features, personally, would make me very happy.
If only, I guess. MY Hawke wil definitely be black (well hopefully, DA:O wasn't nearly as accomedating in this regard as Mass Effect is) . The narrative, as it is, is already very compelling. I won't enjoy it any less for maintaining a purely euro centric base. I would love it all the more if there was more, though.

Modifié par Fortlowe, 31 décembre 2010 - 07:13 .

[Maria Caliban]

Rivaini did not seem to be Italian to me. Their religion seems to be animistic, many of them have integrated the Qun into their life, and they have a tradition of wise women who let spirits from the Fade possess them. Also, they have good relations with the Dalish.

[upsettingshorts]

Indeed, I thought the Free Marches/Italian city states thing was meant as a political metaphor - like most of the ones used to describe Thedas - and not a cultural/ethnic one.

[Ninja Mage]

I thought Rivaini was suppose to be like egypt, so she should be alot darker. Right now she just looks turkish she doesn't look black at all

[Ninja Mage]

She's not mediterranean, she's suppose to be BLACK. But oh well lol

[slimgrin]

Ninja Mage wrote...

She's not mediterranean, she's suppose to be BLACK. But oh well lol

Speculating on her ethnicity is pointless.

[Gill Kaiser]

Ninja Mage wrote...

She's not mediterranean, she's suppose to be BLACK. But oh well lol

Where did you get that idea? Her features are mediterranean, and her skin is olive.

[Ninja Mage]

But she's not suppose to be ''olive skin'' Rivani isn't Turkey or Spain like Antiva. It's more harsh climate like India or Africa. She should atleast look Indian

[upsettingshorts]

*decides, for once, he wants no part of a conversation*

I should probably make note of this in my non-existent journal.

[Maria Caliban]

slimgrin wrote...

Speculating on her ethnicity is pointless.

Sea gypsy.

[Ninja Mage]

I just hate when they have ethnic people in games and it just looks like white people dipped in hot chocolate lol Like with no ethnic features at all, just turn the skin slider all the way DOWN lol

[Gill Kaiser]

But Isabela does have ethnic features... she looks like Salma Hayek.

[Ninja Mage]

I wish her in game model looked like Salma. (U_U) And once again Rivani is not Spain or Mexico. It's equivalent to INDIA..she should look like a dark skinned Indian woman, and she doesn't

[Atakuma]

Maria Caliban wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Speculating on her ethnicity is pointless.

Sea gypsy.

Makes her sound like a type of Pokemon.

[Maria Caliban]

A squirtle joke would be crude and inappropriate here. I'm going to refrain from making one.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 31 décembre 2010 - 07:46 .