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[Sidac]

Mesina2 wrote...

- waited more time for war to build bigger navy
- invaded UK
- waited for spring to invade USSR

1. Germany had already broken the Treaty of Versailles by enlarging their army, they had built ships but not fast enough. Germany lacked enough major ports to build a "big" navy fast.

2. Thats what the Battle of Britian was about. Germany attempted to take the skies away from the UK. Without air support and superiority the invasion would have failed miserably. They failed to take the skies and thus called off the invasion.

3. They did. Well, it was more the summer. Operation Barbarosa started on June 22, 1941. All Russia had to do was hold out till the winter months. Which they did. As the saying goes, Russia's two greatest Generals are January and Feburary. One of hitlers biggest downfalls is that he was too stupid to learn from the past wars, it is sheer stupidity to fight a two front war. Germany had a non-agression pact with Russia until then. The sheer number of losses that were sustained in Operation Barbarosa set the stage for Germany's eventual loss of the war.


enough history, back to ME.

Modifié par Sidac, 01 janvier 2011 - 07:18 .

[Last Vizard]

Sparda Stonerule wrote...

So tell me how is your attitude any different than the Turians? It's pride, and even worse than that it is arrogance. Allies are supposed to band together for the greater good. Because if you have allies why ignore their assistance and cost more of your own peoples lives? Because even if you manage to take on the situation yourself lives of your own people will be lost. To me that doesn't spell honor and glory. That express bull headed bravado that gets no one anywhere. Sure maybe to you alone it feels great but people have died. They will never come back. All for what? A war that you consider a game of strength versus weakness. A little play at standing alone just to feel strong? That's foolish and arrogant and I hope you are never put in charge of anyone.

Yes? and would you happen to be the greatest leader the human race has and will ever know?  I very much doubt that I will ever be put in charge of anyone without training, I was raised to be independent and not to rely on others, however during high school i helped my friends with biology and math assignments while one of them help the others and i with english and history assignments... I ask for help when it is needed but not before then.

Did anyone read my first post? 

Don't get me wrong, I understand the threat the Reapers pose, i just want a damn good reason for them making it to Earth, the Relays are a little loop hole to imposible task it is to travel faster than light.... ok now this is where someone says "but Reapers are advance and stuff" how then did 5th fleet kill one? it wasn't a transdimentional ship that could create or destroy matter with nothing but a thought, they are just a little more advance than us.

How many years pass between ME2 and ME3?
long enough for most large ships to be refitted with the Reaper tech thalix cannons?
How long has Cerberus been unlocking the secrets of the Collector base?
Does Earth Have mass accelerator weapons  that can target objects in space? (thats what got the Reaper that is suspended in the gas giant.... so they at least hurt them)
How far have we taken fusion/fission and other power sources like that?
How many nuclear type weapons have we developed?
How many Reapers are there and how many attack Earth?
If it is possible to suck so bad that Earth is defeated... can we detonate every nuke and experimental weapon on Earth to take out a great many Reapers?

^This was the body of my mixed topic thread^
Instead i got side tracked on WW2 and then now we are having a discussion on pride and such....  I wanted to bring up something that others might not have thought about in detail, the first thing thta happend when Mankind encountered another space faring race was the First contact war..... ME isn't some fairy tale world full of rainbows and love, Earth shold have many defences around the relay leading to and the local SOL relay, mass accelerators attached to asteroids, nuclear mines and the like defending the path to Earth.... whitout knowing how many Reaper attack Earth though i can't speculate on too much but the point i was making is that the Reapers are strong but we are not so weak that we couldn't destroy a great many of them using unconventional weapons.

[Lord Nicholai]

Accepting help from another species is not a sign of weakness. Turning it down is a sign of stupidity.

I'm pretty sure other races will help in some way depending on what you did ME1+2

Modifié par Lord Nicholai, 01 janvier 2011 - 07:29 .

[Last Vizard]

Nashiktal wrote...

No matter what the argument about Humanity, we are still a small species compared to any of the other races. Hell, i'm sure even the Volus and the Elcor outnumber humanity in terms of population and colonies right now.

Compared to the Turians, who have held a galactic empire for much longer than the humans. When humanity was first attacked in the First Contact War, we had our but handed to us by a small probing force. If the Turians had mobilized for war, we simply wouldnt have had the numbers, the resources, the technology to hold off the Turians for long. Humanity may have grown since then, but the Turians were expanding too.

Want some perspective? The Turians were granted full council membership in 900 CE, and they had the fleet to take on the genophageless krogans during the rebellions until the Salarians crippled the Krogan.

When did the Humans join in? 2157 CE. You think the Turians were sitting on their thumbs the whole time? They were building colonies, beefing up their military, expanding their influence, conquering smaller races to become client races. (Something i'm sure humans were dangerously close to becoming.)

In your post it seems like you think i haven't been reading all the codexs and don't realise the power of the Turian race and the size of their fleet, yes it would have been the end of freedom for the Human race.  The Volus and Elcor shouldn't be considered a threat, they are pathetic creatures whos home worlds lacked sufficient numbers of predators to prevent them from surviving, thats why they aren't on the council, because they don't count... if they need to focus on weapons of war and tactics before i even consider them equal to the Turian, Krogan, Salarian, Quarian, Asari, Batarian and Human races... oh and the Jellies just talk nonsense about the Protheans so unless they are choking you then they don't even matter.

With the technology from the Collector Base, destroyed Collector ship and the other ships that are floating around the Collector relay it would give us the advantage when it comes to facing the Reapers, I wonder if Cerberus would hold out on purpose until enough destruction is caused to citadel species before the come to aid Earth and then the Citadel... Yes Turians are strong and we aren't as strong.

[Last Vizard]

azerSheppard wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...

If they are of the same group, individually, we can than assume that the "Council", in which also a human precides, is of the "same group".

If an individual , completely different from a second individual , can be considered of the "same group", we can than assume that the collective of all individuals, possessing the same physical and mental qualities of individual , can be considered of the "same group" as the collective of all individuals, possessing the same physical and mental qualities of individual .

Dunno if that helps.

Two different Alien races cannot reproduce together, Asari don't count because they only produce Asari, eventually they could peacefully breed out the other races due to the fact that they live for so long allowing them to take many different partners over their life time.  We are even seeing this today as the western culture is becoming the minority, my concern is that this would happen in the distant future of ME galaxy... all they would need is to get the majority vote on enough human worlds and its all over.

Way to totally get BESIDE the point. I mean, where does the reproduction even fit in? What are you trying to imply?


Also the fact that you mention the parts I bolded out is very disturbing, as the only people who believe that Westerners are becoming minorities, are racist skinheads (which shouldn't even have the right to call themselves skinheads), people from the clan, and selfnamed Anarchistic survivalists.

All are of Naz1stic idealogy, aside from the clan, who generally hate due to "tradition".

I'm sory if i'm reading into your posts too much, but, as I said, very disturbing.

hahaha, no i'm not a bloody skinhead and my genetics is too mixed for me to even consider a purist race view on the world.... I said western CULTURE meaning that i don't care what your bloody skin colour is, as long as you support the democratic capitalist way, In a middle eastern culture, Afganistan i thinkit is, has a law where the husband can deny food to his wife  if the wife doesn't sleep with the husband....
That is so completely wrong and the worst part is that they have alot more laws like that.

[Last Vizard]

omgodzilla wrote...

I'd stop taking the Reapers seriously altogether if one race was enough to beat them...

I'm taking the view that the Reapers are attacking everyone and not just Earth....

[Last Vizard]

Lord Nicholai wrote...

Accepting help from another species is not a sign of weakness. Turning it down is a sign of stupidity.

I'm pretty sure other races will help in some way depending on what you did ME1+2

Yes it would be stupid to turn it down, my issue mainly is if we cannot kill any ourselfs and do not use unconventional weapons to kill many of them.  When i was playing ME1 and ME2 i was setting ME3 up for what i thought was going to be one epic space battle at the end of the game, not one where the Reapers snuck up to Earth and descended out of the clouds while people look up and say wtf?

[azerSheppard]

Last Vizard wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...

If they are of the same group, individually, we can than assume that the "Council", in which also a human precides, is of the "same group".

If an individual , completely different from a second individual , can be considered of the "same group", we can than assume that the collective of all individuals, possessing the same physical and mental qualities of individual , can be considered of the "same group" as the collective of all individuals, possessing the same physical and mental qualities of individual .

Dunno if that helps.

Two different Alien races cannot reproduce together, Asari don't count because they only produce Asari, eventually they could peacefully breed out the other races due to the fact that they live for so long allowing them to take many different partners over their life time.  We are even seeing this today as the western culture is becoming the minority, my concern is that this would happen in the distant future of ME galaxy... all they would need is to get the majority vote on enough human worlds and its all over.

Way to totally get BESIDE the point. I mean, where does the reproduction even fit in? What are you trying to imply?


Also the fact that you mention the parts I bolded out is very disturbing, as the only people who believe that Westerners are becoming minorities, are racist skinheads (which shouldn't even have the right to call themselves skinheads), people from the clan, and selfnamed Anarchistic survivalists.

All are of Naz1stic idealogy, aside from the clan, who generally hate due to "tradition".

I'm sory if i'm reading into your posts too much, but, as I said, very disturbing.

hahaha, no i'm not a bloody skinhead and my genetics is too mixed for me to even consider a purist race view on the world.... I said western CULTURE meaning that i don't care what your bloody skin colour is, as long as you support the democratic capitalist way, In a middle eastern culture, Afganistan i thinkit is, has a law where the husband can deny food to his wife  if the wife doesn't sleep with the husband....
That is so completely wrong and the worst part is that they have alot more laws like that.

I understand, but really, if you read it in the order I did, you would start suspecting yourself 

[lovgreno]

Last Vizard wrote...

omgodzilla wrote...

I'd stop taking the Reapers seriously altogether if one race was enough to beat them...

I'm taking the view that the Reapers are attacking everyone and not just Earth....

Maybe. Eventualy they will anyway. Then again humanity seems to be the focus of the reapers, at least the Shepard fanboy/girl/spacechtulu Harbringer, so it makes sense to me that they start with Earth.
In any case the humans defences have been broken and Earth who houses most of the humans in the galaxy (and therefore should have been protected by a large part of the human fleet) has been reduced to a food source. Not a good place to use as a base for a galactic empire (wich to me sounds like a bad idea for humanity even if they had the fleet, economy and diplomatic strenght needed for galactic conquest they didn't have even before the invasion of Earth but that is another topic I guess).
Some versions of Shep have good reasons to dislike aliens. I am quite sure most people in the galaxy, alien as well as humans, always puts their loyalty to their own over everything else. The galaxy is a dog eat dog place where you need to be strong enough to defend your own freedom. At the same time however you realy can't afford to make enemies either so even the most proud nationalist (wich is not necesarily a bad thing of course) needs to find the balls to make nice to people he dislikes. Not a pleasant thing for your pride even in our real world but that's what adults needs to do here too. If you don't you end up like the sidelined batarians or the almost broken krogans. That should lessen your survivability in the reaper conflict I suspect.

[Nashiktal]

Last Vizard wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

No matter what the argument about Humanity, we are still a small species compared to any of the other races. Hell, i'm sure even the Volus and the Elcor outnumber humanity in terms of population and colonies right now.

Compared to the Turians, who have held a galactic empire for much longer than the humans. When humanity was first attacked in the First Contact War, we had our but handed to us by a small probing force. If the Turians had mobilized for war, we simply wouldnt have had the numbers, the resources, the technology to hold off the Turians for long. Humanity may have grown since then, but the Turians were expanding too.

Want some perspective? The Turians were granted full council membership in 900 CE, and they had the fleet to take on the genophageless krogans during the rebellions until the Salarians crippled the Krogan.

When did the Humans join in? 2157 CE. You think the Turians were sitting on their thumbs the whole time? They were building colonies, beefing up their military, expanding their influence, conquering smaller races to become client races. (Something i'm sure humans were dangerously close to becoming.)

In your post it seems like you think i haven't been reading all the codexs and don't realise the power of the Turian race and the size of their fleet, yes it would have been the end of freedom for the Human race.  The Volus and Elcor shouldn't be considered a threat, they are pathetic creatures whos home worlds lacked sufficient numbers of predators to prevent them from surviving, thats why they aren't on the council, because they don't count... if they need to focus on weapons of war and tactics before i even consider them equal to the Turian, Krogan, Salarian, Quarian, Asari, Batarian and Human races... oh and the Jellies just talk nonsense about the Protheans so unless they are choking you then they don't even matter.

With the technology from the Collector Base, destroyed Collector ship and the other ships that are floating around the Collector relay it would give us the advantage when it comes to facing the Reapers, I wonder if Cerberus would hold out on purpose until enough destruction is caused to citadel species before the come to aid Earth and then the Citadel... Yes Turians are strong and we aren't as strong.

I wasn't calling the Elcor and Volus a threat. I was making a point. Humanity is in a golden age at the moment, and we are still behind the Elcor and Volus the grand scheme of things.

Humanity has not even been in the galactic community for two decades and you think we are ready to topple the other races? You think collector tech will save us? It certainly helped the Collectors now didnt they? /sarcasm

We don't have the population, we don't have the resources, we don't have popular support. (Internally, humanity still cant even form one political unit.) Humanity is still trying to figure itself out here. What we have accomplished is grand, and laudable, but we need the other races on our side.

Now remember how I put the Turians in perspective? Add the Salarians and the Asari to that and you have a triple threat that outnumber, outproduce, out tech, and just simply overshadow the tiny human empire. 

[AlexXIV]

Well I hope *Humanity' is getting their asses handed as they should. Except Shepard that is.

[windsock]

Don't get me started on the Asari.... they are parasites that needs the DNA of other races to continue to evolve, that waste of credits dreadnaught the Asari built was nothing but a way for the cowards on the council to run from the citadel...l

I like this one, it's like a yahoo news comment from 2184

[Last Vizard]

I did not say at any point we are ready to "topple the other races" at this point in time, i've only said that Humanity needs to stand on its own and when the time comes to manipulate the events in ME 3 to our advantage... While recruiting and helping the other races in ME 1and ME 2 i thought i was preparing for a showdown in space where the Alliance, United Geth, Turian, whatever the Quarians have and Rachni face off against the Reapers in a final space battle, this way we would fight as equals. (the space strippers ceded their share of the defence contracts to the Turians after the events of ME1).... but now it looks like Earth will need to bow to Aliens if it is to survive.... wouldn't that make Turians happy... "Hey humans, we are only sticking around to help rebuild... huh? oh yeah those bases were building are for your protection" thats how i see this playing out, If the Earth Defence Forces don't put up a very good fight and if we aren't lauching asteroids at Reapers when they get near the asteroid belt and other means of attack then i'm going to be dissapointed.

Will nukes come into this?
From what i understand human Carrier production was high because it wasn't limited by the Military contracts because all other races are going for the Bismarck effect.
Can weapon platforms be hidden in the Asteroid belt?
Could a large metal rod with engines be accelerated and driven into the Reapers or drain their shield to weaken or finish off the Reapers?
I'm sure some Human is thinking outside of the Citadel box before the events of ME 3

I didn't get the feeling that the other races are unbeatable, it felt like if Mankind had more time than the rest of the galaxy would know that we are the future.

Modifié par Last Vizard, 02 janvier 2011 - 02:24 .

[Nashiktal]

Now that I can agree on Vizard. Given time, Humanity can certainly topple the other civilizations. Hell, I think that is a theme of the game, how forward and aggressive the Humans are.



But we are just way too young to handle the reapers by ourselves. The reapers have wiped out the galaxies for countless millenia, they have seen almost everything to see. Its going to take more than one upstart race thinking "outside" the box to beat them.

[CrassKid]

@Last Vizard



While I don't agree with your viewpoints on 'weakness', I understand the point you're trying to make. However, I can think of several ways for the Reapers to sack Earth:



1) There's another relay that links to Charon that none of the current space faring species know about. Keep in mind that only 1% of star systems have been explored and it's possible that there may be relays and other ancient tech in the empty space between star systems. The Reapers would still have to fight once they hit Charon, but from what I understand the bulk of the Alliance defenses are stationed at Arcturus.



2) There's another relay in Local cluster that's close enough to Sol for the Reapers to attack Earth before the Alliance can mobilize a defense (a defense that I think you put too much faith in).



3) A group (likely human and possibly indoctrinated, fatally curious, or just stupid) transport an alien artifact to Earth that turns out to be a mass relay and allows the Reapers to warp in.



4) The Reapers don't need the mass relay network at all to travel FTL. They just use the network because it's the easiest or most energy efficient way to travel.



5) Let's assume that the Reapers do need the mass relay network and also assume that they somehow make it to Arcturus (possibly through the Citadel or with some other super relay). You already mentioned that it took most of the 5th fleet to destroy 1 Reaper. What do you expect the outcome will be if dozens or hundreds show up? I doubt thanix cannons and EDIs Reaper ECM will do much and several Reapers could easily get through and head for Earth.



6) Forget mass relays and direct confrontations all together. What we know so far suggests that the Reapers favor manipulation and chaos to conquer the galaxy. It's possible that ME 3 starts with the Humans involved in a full scale war with Batarians, Turians, or some other group or coalition of groups. While those battles rage, the Reapers waltz up to Earth and start laying the smack down.



My point is that the Reapers are so much more advanced than humanity and the Citadel species, that the writers should have no problem coming up with a plausible scenario where the Reapers make it to Earth.

[Nashiktal]

Oh and last Vizard, the only reason 5th fleet managed to kill a reaper, Is because said reaper was stupid/prideful enough to risk attempting to take shep on "personally."



With sovvy's mind stunned/destroyed, his barrier dropped. (His barriers were what were stopping all of 5th fleets shots) It seems when the barriers drop, the reaper are easily destroyed by conventional tech.

[Last Vizard]

Nashiktal wrote...

Now that I can agree on Vizard. Given time, Humanity can certainly topple the other civilizations. Hell, I think that is a theme of the game, how forward and aggressive the Humans are.

But we are just way too young to handle the reapers by ourselves. The reapers have wiped out the galaxies for countless millenia, they have seen almost everything to see. Its going to take more than one upstart race thinking "outside" the box to beat them.

Protheans defeated them by giving us this chance, the are the ones i would build monuments too when this if over, (and the race that built the large mass accelerator cannon that damaged the Reaper suspended over the gas giant).

[Nashiktal]

All too true. If only Bioware could decide what they look like without retconning it.

[Sajuro]

Last Vizard wrote...

VyseN1 wrote...

How is it weak seeking help against a common enemy that threatens all life in the galaxy? It isn't even like the Reapers will only destroy Earth, they will kill all the other races as well.

You mention the Thalix Cannon, that is from the Turians. So by your logic, humans are weak to accept that form of help.

1.The Turians back engineered from pieces of the Reapers main gun.... how is that from Turians? Mankind can buy them from the Turians then back engineer it ourselves, i don't see where the help is from the Turians.

2. The weak cling to each other, many weak will band together to fight a commo enemy....  If you need others to help do something than that makes you weak.

1: Then Humans are weak for accepting the Turians help building the normandy, and Shepard is weak for using it?

2. Realizing that you can't take on doom cuttlefish all alone isn't weak, it's being realistic and smart. Not realizing when you can't do something on your own isn't strong, it's damn stupid. How do you think society started in the first place, the 'weak' banded together to help each other survive hunting and through the winters while the 'strong' either died of starvation, got gored/crushed, or became popsicles because they were too stupid to ask for help.
Oh the hubris!

[Last Vizard]

CrassKid wrote...

@Last Vizard

While I don't agree with your viewpoints on 'weakness', I understand the point you're trying to make. However, I can think of several ways for the Reapers to sack Earth:

1) There's another relay that links to Charon that none of the current space faring species know about. Keep in mind that only 1% of star systems have been explored and it's possible that there may be relays and other ancient tech in the empty space between star systems. The Reapers would still have to fight once they hit Charon, but from what I understand the bulk of the Alliance defenses are stationed at Arcturus.

2) There's another relay in Local cluster that's close enough to Sol for the Reapers to attack Earth before the Alliance can mobilize a defense (a defense that I think you put too much faith in).

3) A group (likely human and possibly indoctrinated, fatally curious, or just stupid) transport an alien artifact to Earth that turns out to be a mass relay and allows the Reapers to warp in.

4) The Reapers don't need the mass relay network at all to travel FTL. They just use the network because it's the easiest or most energy efficient way to travel.

5) Let's assume that the Reapers do need the mass relay network and also assume that they somehow make it to Arcturus (possibly through the Citadel or with some other super relay). You already mentioned that it took most of the 5th fleet to destroy 1 Reaper. What do you expect the outcome will be if dozens or hundreds show up? I doubt thanix cannons and EDIs Reaper ECM will do much and several Reapers could easily get through and head for Earth.

6) Forget mass relays and direct confrontations all together. What we know so far suggests that the Reapers favor manipulation and chaos to conquer the galaxy. It's possible that ME 3 starts with the Humans involved in a full scale war with Batarians, Turians, or some other group or coalition of groups. While those battles rage, the Reapers waltz up to Earth and start laying the smack down.

My point is that the Reapers are so much more advanced than humanity and the Citadel species, that the writers should have no problem coming up with a plausible scenario where the Reapers make it to Earth.

1. True, but then i think that if Nazar coul've just used FTL to  fly to the other Reapers and say "Those Protheans really F'd us in the A, the citadel isn't working via remote".

2. Didn't know that but they have to get to Earth before all ships are refitted with thalix cannons.

3. Yes i can see hippies doing this.

4. Same as one, i'm also not sure if we are talking about hyperdrive or something because FTL can only get to 99% light speed (steven Hawking/Einstien docos)... but they are advance.... however I still think Nazzar would still be in the land of the living if he could just spend some years to fly back to dark space and get the other Reapers.

5. The Thalix cannon fires superheated metal at a target, i don't think it mentions if its slow enough to pass through shields but i think that was the point of the weapon(Advanced Reaper weapon technology, Back engineering is at b!tch).  5th fleet didn't have Thalix cannons and it seemed like the Collectors chould only hack the Normandy when the IFF was installed.

6. That is true, however it would be very difficult to move the Alliance fleets away from Earth and the larger colonies due to the Alliance not getting off its ass while the Collectors were abducting colonies.(but can be done by Reapers as you said)

Yes the Reapers are very very advanced but that advantage can be lost if your tech falls into the hands of others, from what i've read i don't think the Reapers planed for the Keepers to ignore activation signals, or that the Collector base could be captured.

[Nashiktal]

Is the human fleet even being refitted with the Thanix cannons? None of the galactic civilizations are preparing for war. At all.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 02 janvier 2011 - 03:54 .

[Last Vizard]

Sajuro wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

VyseN1 wrote...

How is it weak seeking help against a common enemy that threatens all life in the galaxy? It isn't even like the Reapers will only destroy Earth, they will kill all the other races as well.

You mention the Thalix Cannon, that is from the Turians. So by your logic, humans are weak to accept that form of help.

1.The Turians back engineered from pieces of the Reapers main gun.... how is that from Turians? Mankind can buy them from the Turians then back engineer it ourselves, i don't see where the help is from the Turians.

2. The weak cling to each other, many weak will band together to fight a commo enemy....  If you need others to help do something than that makes you weak.

1: Then Humans are weak for accepting the Turians help building the normandy, and Shepard is weak for using it?

2. Realizing that you can't take on doom cuttlefish all alone isn't weak, it's being realistic and smart. Not realizing when you can't do something on your own isn't strong, it's damn stupid. How do you think society started in the first place, the 'weak' banded together to help each other survive hunting and through the winters while the 'strong' either died of starvation, got gored/crushed, or became popsicles because they were too stupid to ask for help.
Oh the hubris!

1. I think it was a joint venture between the two toughest races to try and ease relations, noone had the upper hand when it was being built, plus it was tied to the testing of the first Human spectre....

2. Tribes were held together and led by the stronest of the tribe, not the one who could talk the talk and walk the walk... (that would be the first guy i'd smack in the head with a stick) the strong hunted and protected the weaker members of the tribe, the strong didn't starve, they were the hunters while the weak were gathering fruit and what not... the prerequitsite to surviving for early humans was strength... back to ME --- being realistic is realising that you are weak if you need others, Yes Humanity can't defeat every single Reaper that comes from dark space, but we should be able to litter the SOL system with many wrecks before help arrives so that even though we are losing when you return with help  Mordin says "Your races destructive capabilities are astonishing... " (looks at your crutch)  then you turn to him and say "You even think about injecting my balls/ovaries with something Mordin and i'm sending you out the airlock"

[Nashiktal]

Nope. As of right now, there is no easy way to kill a reaper. So no, humanity won't be littering the Sol system with the wrecks of humanity, at least not without shep pulling some crazy monkey magic. No civilization has the tech to take down a reaper, at least not easily. (That would require an entire fleet properly equipped to do so... and guess what, no one is preparing for war)



Also it was the weak gathering together to survive that made strong humans. Instead of casting out and killing the weak, they fed them, kept them alive. The more people in your tribe, the more genetic diversity you had.



You can be a strong caveman all you want, one guy with a stick cant take on ten throwing stones.

[Last Vizard]

Nashiktal wrote...

Is the human fleet even being refitted with the Thanix cannons? None of the galactic civilizations are preparing for war. At all.

In news reports it says that the Turians are building more ships than is allowed under citadel madates, plus its the flash new weapon that the Turians have so that means that their enemies have to equip the same weapons or something better, I think the term is Acceleration.... he has a big stick, so you pick up a big stick, he then makes a shield and so on till we are shooting missles at each other and developing anti-missle systems.

Modifié par Last Vizard, 02 janvier 2011 - 04:15 .

[Nashiktal]

Let me guess, you killed the council right? Problem is, while the Turians are building more ships, The Asari stop completely.



So it evens out.