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#26
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Dave of Canada wrote...

Carver: Leliana, I've got something to tell you!
Leliana: Oh, what is it?
Carver: Well, we've known each other since you've...
Leliana: Yes?
Carver: Yes you've come here... and you're not affirmed... would you like to go ou-
*Warden shows up with Sten, Alistair and Rabbit*
Warden: Hey, you're the nearest rogue I can find and I got this locked box filled with Blank Vellum that needs opening. Want to tag along, stop the Blight and you might or might not die at the Urn of Sacred Ashes?
Leliana: Yes, of course. Sorry Carver, we're going to have to finish this another time.
Carver: but...
*Leliana leaves with the Warden, Sten, Alistair and Rabbit*
Carver: ... I love you.
*Hawke walks in from behind*
Hawke: Don't worry, we're only at the start of the game. You've got another ten years to go, possibly challenging me in a relationship I want to participate in and getting crushed as I leveled my persuade talent to four and convince her to leave you!
Carver: But...
Hawke: It'll be fun!


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Amagoi wrote...

Negix wrote...

saMOOrai182 wrote...

I Doubt Carver would side with the chantry since he grew up with mages.

propably hes jealous... "they can do all these things and i cant thats injust"...


It would make sense. Just about everyone in his family can wield awesome powers, and they have a bond with each other with that. That would make anyone feel like a black sheep and more than a bit jealous.

Still, I hope he doesn't turn out that way.


"Just about everyone?"

Hawke can. His father died a long time ago and Bethany dies at the beginning of the game. That leaves Mama Hawke (non-mage), Carver (non-mage), and Hawke (mage.)

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LOL Carver just can`t win .

Modifié par request denied, 01 janvier 2011 - 12:15 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

Carver: Leliana, I've got something to tell you!
Leliana: Oh, what is it?
Carver: Well, we've known each other since you've...
Leliana: Yes?
Carver: Yes you've come here... and you're not affirmed... would you like to go ou-
*Warden shows up with Sten, Alistair and Rabbit*
Warden: Hey, you're the nearest rogue I can find and I got this locked box filled with Blank Vellum that needs opening. Want to tag along, stop the Blight and you might or might not die at the Urn of Sacred Ashes?
Leliana: Yes, of course. Sorry Carver, we're going to have to finish this another time.
Carver: but...
*Leliana leaves with the Warden, Sten, Alistair and Rabbit*
Carver: ... I love you.
*Hawke walks in from behind*
Hawke: Don't worry, we're only at the start of the game. You've got another ten years to go, possibly challenging me in a relationship I want to participate in and getting crushed as I leveled my persuade talent to four and convince her to leave you!
Carver: But...
Hawke: It'll be fun!

Nyahahaha, indeed. :devil:

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Carver: Leliana, I've got something to tell you!
Leliana: Oh, what is it?
Carver: Well, we've known each other since you've...
Leliana: Yes?
Carver: Yes you've come here... and you're not affirmed... would you like to go ou-
*Warden shows up with Sten, Alistair and Rabbit*
Warden: Hey, you're the nearest rogue I can find and I got this locked box filled with Blank Vellum that needs opening. Want to tag along, stop the Blight and you might or might not die at the Urn of Sacred Ashes?
Leliana: Yes, of course. Sorry Carver, we're going to have to finish this another time.
Carver: but...
*Leliana leaves with the Warden, Sten, Alistair and Rabbit*
Carver: ... I love you.
*Hawke walks in from behind*
Hawke: Don't worry, we're only at the start of the game. You've got another ten years to go, possibly challenging me in a relationship I want to participate in and getting crushed as I leveled my persuade talent to four and convince her to leave you!
Carver: But...
Hawke: It'll be fun!


poor carver xDD. almost feel sorry for him.. ALMOST, if he hadn't tried to steal MY leliana!! :devil:

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Perhaps Orisino's mage faction is what's using this symbol.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 01 janvier 2011 - 12:18 .


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request denied wrote...

LOL Carver just can`t win .


He's going to snap one of these days.

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I hope so then he might be more interesting .

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lv12medic wrote...

request denied wrote...

LOL Carver just can`t win .


He's going to snap one of these days.

Now we know why he fights Hawke... hating the wardens for stealing his first love, propably hating hawke for stealing the second, never been able to use magic thus disliking his family.... so full of hate... has to go mad one day...

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Blacklash93 wrote...

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Perhaps Orisino's mage faction is what's using this symbol.


No can't be...Varric has it in his back in a chamber that seems to be his room. It's something way more important...just look how the weapons are placed on top of it.

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EDIT: hrmmm...on the door the black lines are missing...are there 2 symbols? one on top of eachother? the templars and mages.

Modifié par ankuu, 01 janvier 2011 - 12:22 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

Carver: Leliana, I've got something to tell you!
Leliana: Oh, what is it?
Carver: Well, we've known each other since you've...
Leliana: Yes?
Carver: Yes you've come here... and you're not affirmed... would you like to go ou-
*Warden shows up with Sten, Alistair and Rabbit*
Warden: Hey, you're the nearest rogue I can find and I got this locked box filled with Blank Vellum that needs opening. Want to tag along, stop the Blight and you might or might not die at the Urn of Sacred Ashes?
Leliana: Yes, of course. Sorry Carver, we're going to have to finish this another time.
Carver: but...
*Leliana leaves with the Warden, Sten, Alistair and Rabbit*
Carver: ... I love you.
*Hawke walks in from behind*
Hawke: Don't worry, we're only at the start of the game. You've got another ten years to go, possibly challenging me in a relationship I want to participate in and getting crushed as I leveled my persuade talent to four and convince her to leave you!
Carver: But...
Hawke: It'll be fun!

I would play that game. :D

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I think it's the Imperial Chantry lead by some Achron mage called Orsino (serving the black divine, or perhaps is a puppeteer of him) against some high ranking chantry paladin, perhaps even the white devine.



It would have mage vs. paladin undertones, but would really more be a story of the beginnings of a chantry civil war/schism. Interesting.



http://dragonage.wik...mperial_Chantry

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ankuu wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Perhaps Orisino's mage faction is what's using this symbol.


No can't be...Varric has it in his back in a chamber that seems to be his room. It's something way more important...just look how the weapons are placed on top of it.

EDIT: hrmmm...on the door the black lines are missing...are there 2 symbols? one on top of eachother? the templars and mages.


There are no black lines...

Anyhow, it's possible Varric supports the mages side, or perhaps the screenshot was taken on the mages hideout.

In any case, a dragon would make a lot of sense--it's like Orsino's staff.

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double post

Modifié par Wheat, 01 janvier 2011 - 12:26 .


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Blacklash93 wrote...

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Perhaps Orisino's mage faction is what's using this symbol.


Looking at that symbol... It looks an awful lot like a stick figure version of the Dragon Age 2 Blood Dragon image.

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Blacklash93 wrote...

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Perhaps Orisino's mage faction is what's using this symbol.

I think you might be right considering that Orsino's staff is adorned with dragon heads. Coincidence?

Also the use of the dragon symbol might have significance  especially considering the plot being set in the Dragon Age. Aside from Orsino being the thrall of a high dragon however I might just be joining up dots that don't exist.

Edit: *sigh* :ph34r:ed 

Modifié par Heretical Sound, 01 janvier 2011 - 12:27 .


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I really like that picture, and yeah, that could be a stylized dragon, and with the tie-in between dragons and Tevinter....

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Yeah, it looks very much like Flemeth's Dragon form over Hawke on the box art. The head is even pointed the same way.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 01 janvier 2011 - 12:28 .


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errant_knight wrote...

I really like that picture, and yeah, that could be a stylized dragon, and with the tie-in between dragons and Tevinter....


Ooh, yes--of course! Someone mentioned a Tevinter vs Chantry conflict--if the dragon is a symbol, that makes sense, and explains why the dragon symbol is over the Kirkwall symbol. They could be trying to take it back.

Perhaps there are mages allied with the Tevinters, but are of a seperate faction?

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Saibh wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

I really like that picture, and yeah, that could be a stylized dragon, and with the tie-in between dragons and Tevinter....


Ooh, yes--of course! Someone mentioned a Tevinter vs Chantry conflict--if the dragon is a symbol, that makes sense, and explains why the dragon symbol is over the Kirkwall symbol. They could be trying to take it back.

Perhaps there are mages allied with the Tevinters, but are of a seperate faction?


So it's going to be a Chantry-Mage-Tevinter-Orlais-Elf-Kirkwall-Qunari Free-for-all?
:P

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Blacklash93 wrote...

Yeah, it looks very much like Flemeth's Dragon form over Hawke on the box art. The head is even pointed the same way.


Well, no, not quite.

Modifié par Saibh, 01 janvier 2011 - 12:32 .


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I wish people would stop poisoning the well against Carver. Isn't there an entire thread dedicated to joking about how he's an idiot?

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Saibh wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Yeah, it looks very much like Flemeth's Dragon form over Hawke on the box art. The head is even pointed the same way.


Well, no, not quite.

it does... the < -  like thingie also includes the horns... or could at least...

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Crazy speculation:

Orsino or whatever he is, is probably a Libertarian or whatever they call themselves who is being driven by Flemeth (Flemeth is a dragon, Orsino has a dragon staff. Drawing straws but that's where I lie.) to pull away from the Circle.



This leads to a civil war amongst the Circle where the Chantry has to react or lose out on the mages, losing dominion on the mages would cause lots of mayhem on the streets as the public will be in a state of panic. By the time this problem is resolved, the Templars or the Mages (or both) will be extremely weakened by the war that the Qunari invasion will come in and clear the place out quite easily.



The Qunari are possibly also involved with Flemeth's plan, using her new form to lead them.



Ultimately, I view Flemeth's goal as "powering" Hawke up until he's ready to be her pawn or champion. Possibly to help her hunt down Morrigan.

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Saibh wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

I really like that picture, and yeah, that could be a stylized dragon, and with the tie-in between dragons and Tevinter....


Ooh, yes--of course! Someone mentioned a Tevinter vs Chantry conflict--if the dragon is a symbol, that makes sense, and explains why the dragon symbol is over the Kirkwall symbol. They could be trying to take it back.

Perhaps there are mages allied with the Tevinters, but are of a seperate faction?


Ironically, both of the symbols are stylized representations of the Tevinter dragon.