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[Saibh]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I wish people would stop poisoning the well against Carver. Isn't there an entire thread dedicated to joking about how he's an idiot?

Er...I'm not saying anything bad about him. I said just the same of Bethany. Unless you're talking about the Leliana crush thing, which I think would be adorable.

Negix wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Yeah, it looks very much like Flemeth's Dragon form over Hawke on the box art. The head is even pointed the same way.

Well, no, not quite.

it does... the < -  like thingie also includes the horns... or could at least...

...Hey, yeah, look at that! I didn't think of it that way, but it makes a lot of sense. Let me update the OP.

[Negix]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I wish people would stop poisoning the well against Carver. Isn't there an entire thread dedicated to joking about how he's an idiot?

hes the brother of the main character... that makes him evil:devil:!!! joking aside, theres nothing wrong with making jokes about a character...

[Amagoi]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Amagoi wrote...

Negix wrote...

saMOOrai182 wrote...

I Doubt Carver would side with the chantry since he grew up with mages.

propably hes jealous... "they can do all these things and i cant thats injust"...

It would make sense. Just about everyone in his family can wield awesome powers, and they have a bond with each other with that. That would make anyone feel like a black sheep and more than a bit jealous.

Still, I hope he doesn't turn out that way.

"Just about everyone?"

Hawke can. His father died a long time ago and Bethany dies at the beginning of the game. That leaves Mama Hawke (non-mage), Carver (non-mage), and Hawke (mage.)

During the game. Growing up he had Mom, who wasn't a mage, Bethany and their dad who both were mages, and then there's MageHawke.

I know that'd be enough to make me feel a bit insecure and jealous, since half or more of my immediate family can do awesome things with magic and all I have is a sword. But Sokka from Avatar:The Last Airbender dealt with it pretty well, so Carver might too.

Edit for on-topicness: Also, isn't the dragon a symbol of the Tevinter? Just thought I'd throw that out there, though I personally don't think the Imperium is involved.

Modifié par Amagoi, 01 janvier 2011 - 12:40 .

[Dave of Canada]

It's possible he's also relieved he can go in public and not worry about being arrested by the Templar, something I'm assuming will happen to MageHawke or Bethany by the Templar faction (to sort of tie this back into the thread).

[Blacklash93]

There have been many mutations of that slave rebellion mark over time, as Mike mentioned. The newest symbol is supposed to look like an eagle.

[Saibh]

Blacklash93 wrote...

There have been many mutations of that slave rebellion mark over time, as Mike mentioned. The newest symbol is supposed to look like an eagle.

I didn't know we ever got confirmation on what that symbol is, what it represents, or why it was used. Do you mine citing, please?

[Blacklash93]

Saibh wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I wish people would stop poisoning the well against Carver. Isn't there an entire thread dedicated to joking about how he's an idiot?

Er...I'm not saying anything bad about him. I said just the same of Bethany. Unless you're talking about the Leliana crush thing, which I think would be adorable.

Negix wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Yeah, it looks very much like Flemeth's Dragon form over Hawke on the box art. The head is even pointed the same way.

Well, no, not quite.

it does... the < -  like thingie also includes the horns... or could at least...

...Hey, yeah, look at that! I didn't think of it that way, but it makes a lot of sense. Let me update the OP.

Of course it doesn't look exactly like it. But it resembles a very minimalist and stylized version of it.

There's only the head and the wings in both pictures and the head is pointed to the left in both as well. They match up.

Edit: The symbol also looks a bit like this, too.

http://biowarestore....341a5afa2a29182

Modifié par Blacklash93, 01 janvier 2011 - 01:46 .

[TJPags]

As long as we have the option to side with the Chantry and against the mages, I'll be fine.

[Saibh]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Of course it doesn't look exactly like it. But it resembles a very minimalist and stylized version of it.

There's only the head and the wings in both pictures and the head is pointed to the left in both as well. They match up.

I always saw it as the Dragon having a giant, gaping mouth turned right, not as horns.

[Razored1313]

my guess would be that its either;

a.) a slave uprising, going purely on the races in the picture, as slavery is legal in the free marches.

or

b.) a mage uprising, interesting concept, with a lot of potential for drama (aveline was married to a templar, and might turn against you if you side with mages, for example)

all speculation of course, as far as we know the people were fighting over hawkes autographed nutella

[Amagoi]

Didn't the devs say that slavery isn't legal in Kirkwall? It has a long history of being the center of Tevinter slave trade, but I was given the impression that since they broke away from the Imperium they've banned slavery.

[Maria Caliban]

Saibh wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I wish people would stop poisoning the well against Carver. Isn't there an entire thread dedicated to joking about how he's an idiot?

Er...I'm not saying anything bad about him. I said just the same of Bethany. Unless you're talking about the Leliana crush thing, which I think would be adorable.

If you don't think my comment applies to you then it probably doesn't.

Amagoi wrote...

Didn't the devs say that slavery isn't legal in Kirkwall?

Indeed. It used to be a center of slavery but hasn't been for a long, long time.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 01 janvier 2011 - 01:15 .

[Blacklash93]

Saibh wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

There have been many mutations of that slave rebellion mark over time, as Mike mentioned. The newest symbol is supposed to look like an eagle.

I didn't know we ever got confirmation on what that symbol is, what it represents, or why it was used. Do you mine citing, please?

For the old symbol: http://social.biowar...ex/5500819&lf=8

I can't remember where I heard the eagle thing, but I know that's what it's supposed to be. You can see a bunch of golden eagle statues around Kirkwall in various screenshots, too.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 01 janvier 2011 - 01:41 .

[Brockololly]

Saibh wrote...




We all wondered what this could mean, until the magnifent Eorion_Moonwing pointed out this image:

Hmmm...I wonder if that 3 headed dragon has any special significance or if its simply reusing art motifs/assets from Origins? I always wondered about those random 3 headed dragon/serpent statues found in some spots in Origins, like the one Blood mage hideout in Denerim and I think there is one in Vigil's Keep basement in Awakening among other spots- looks mighty similar to the staff/loading screen dragon:

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Seeing that almost everything that was cool in DA was built by the Tevinter (Ostagar, the Circle, Elven cave ect) Odds are that the three headed dragon is an old Tevinter symbol.

[Jzadek72]

TJPags wrote...

As long as we have the option to side with the Chantry and against the mages, I'll be fine.

I obviously want that option, but my Hawke? She'll be a rogue, but she will END the Chantry. 

ankuu wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...



Perhaps Orisino's mage faction is what's using this symbol.

No can't be...Varric has it in his back in a chamber that seems to be his room. It's something way more important...just look how the weapons are placed on top of it.




EDIT: hrmmm...on the door the black lines are missing...are there 2 symbols? one on top of eachother? the templars and mages.

I can see Varric as an undercover mage supporter. Smuggling apostates into the city, and all that, which would explain how he knew Hawke - either way, you end up with a mage. Heck, that could be why they made the class and sibling choice in the first place.
But I'm just rambling now. But if Varric was a mage supporter, it would be awesome, and would also add a lot of tension between him and Cassandra.

Modifié par Jzadek72, 01 janvier 2011 - 01:36 .

[Dellingr]

Saibh wrote...

There are no black lines...

Anyhow, it's possible Varric supports the mages side, or perhaps the screenshot was taken on the mages hideout.

In any case, a dragon would make a lot of sense--it's like Orsino's staff.

The dwarven furniture there makes me think it's Varric's house rather than a mage hideout

[Eclipse_9990]

That staff is awesome. I hope I can get it for my Hawke... Without having to kill that cool elf mage for it..

[Eclipse_9990]

Wheat wrote...

I think it's the Imperial Chantry lead by some Achron mage called Orsino (serving the black divine, or perhaps is a puppeteer of him) against some high ranking chantry paladin, perhaps even the white devine.

It would have mage vs. paladin undertones, but would really more be a story of the beginnings of a chantry civil war/schism. Interesting.

http://dragonage.wik...mperial_Chantry

Woah Tevinter lets Elves become Archons? Ok its official Tevinter owns every other country ever made.. Ever.. Period.

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 01 janvier 2011 - 02:58 .

[errant_knight]

lv12medic wrote...

Saibh wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

I really like that picture, and yeah, that could be a stylized dragon, and with the tie-in between dragons and Tevinter....

Ooh, yes--of course! Someone mentioned a Tevinter vs Chantry conflict--if the dragon is a symbol, that makes sense, and explains why the dragon symbol is over the Kirkwall symbol. They could be trying to take it back.

Perhaps there are mages allied with the Tevinters, but are of a seperate faction?

So it's going to be a Chantry-Mage-Tevinter-Orlais-Elf-Kirkwall-Qunari Free-for-all?

That would certainly be world changing, wouldn't it? And my beloved Ferelden would be surrounded with bad.

[Dave of Canada]

Well, Varric does mention the whole world is on the brink of war. I doubt Qunari, Mages and Templars count as the whole world.

[Blacklash93]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Well, Varric does mention the whole world is on the brink of war. I doubt Qunari, Mages and Templars count as the whole world.

Or just Thedas, for that matter, but "world" sounds more epic so the writers just went with that.

Unless other continents get involved somehow, which I doubt greatly, the "entire world" being on the brink of war is just an exaggeration.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 01 janvier 2011 - 04:44 .

[errant_knight]

Thedas is the whole world to it's inhabitants.

[upsettingshorts]

Thedas refers to both the known world (what Varric is talking about) and the entire world (that Varric has no clue about the relative peacefulness of)

[Kakistos_]

Just a thought: Perhaps the dragon symbol does not represent the Tevinter Imperium directly. As I understand it, the Imperium no longer worships the Old Gods, though I am unsure as to if they still use dragon symbolism. The dragon symbol may just represent what mages are capable of(Tevinter's power) and is being used to rally more mages to the cause and/or is the symbol chosen for the mage rebels. Or I coild be wrong. I don't know who the Elf mage or the Templar? lady are.