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[SgtElias]

I think (hope?) it's a lead-up to something bigger. I joked to my husband that we were going to have a game that takes place over (roughly) the same time period in each separate country in Thedas that all culminates in this huge epic world altering event based on your choices. Overlooking how extremely complicated that would be, you have to admit, the number of games would be fairly high. I mean, how many countries are there in Thedas? Nine, ten?



In all seriousness, though, I think Hawke will probably be retired after Dragon Age II, but who knows? I thought the Warden was sure to return, and I was wrong. I'm generally bad at predicting news for future installments.

[Night Prowler76]

I wouldnt mind the series going through several different times and characters, but I definately think that the Warden and Morrigan should be back at some point, if not I probably wont be as interested in the series.

[jackkel dragon]

Hawke will at least be referenced after DA2. Cassandra supposedly isn't finished, and is going to have a role in DA3 is trying to fix Hawke's mess.

[Babyinf3rno]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

I wouldnt mind the series going through several different times and characters, but I definately think that the Warden and Morrigan should be back at some point, if not I probably wont be as interested in the series.

Agreed...it just doesn't seem right to give us the warden and Morrigan conflict. Have us save Fereldan and possibly the world of Theadas just to toss it out the window. Why give the options to have an OGB with Morrigan, * warden or Alistar/Loghain* and throw them out afterwards? Maybe it makes sense and makes some people happy that we don't play the warden in the second extension of DA. I am hopeing somewhere down the lines we get to go back to Warden/Morrigan conflict and find out what the " bigger threat " Flemeth talked about really is.

[upsettingshorts]

I hope the Warden never comes back. Because I don't want to play a Grey Warden anymore.

Unless the story allows the Warden to leave or replace the organization. Then I'd be all for it.

In contrast with what others think, I really don't believe the Warden is integral to Morrigan's story, even with the potential old god baby.

[Night Prowler76]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I hope the Warden never comes back. Because I don't want to play a Grey Warden anymore.
Unless the story allows the Warden to leave or replace the organization. Then I'd be all for it.
In contrast with what others think, I really don't believe the Warden is integral to Morrigan's story, even with the potential old god baby.

I understand you not wanting to play the Warden anymore, but I prefer to play the character that I create, and I agree, it would be interesting if the Warden moved on to bigger and better things perhaps, and have the story based around what Flemeth and Morrigan were up to ( which is kind of what I got out of witch hunt).

The draw for alot of people is with the Warden, whether you liked him or not, he/she was "your guy/gal", you could kind of use your imagination a bit, and it felt that the story was based around you, and not a character that you were "forced" to be (Hawke).

Im still looking forward to DA2 and seeing how the new features will affect the game etc, and Im sure it will be a quality game, but I still prefer RPG's that let you make your own character to a certain extent, it gives you more of a sense of inclusion in the story.

To me, the character Hawke is just a stereotypical strong jawed hero that are a dime a dozen, maybe im just oldschool tho lol

[jackkel dragon]

Babyinf3rno wrote...
find out what the " bigger threat " Flemeth talked about really is.

This is the part that makes me believe the Warden is done and made me move on. It really depends on what the bigger thing is, but I can see where Morrigan might fit into this, making her return almost inevitable.

My reasoning is, resources and development work aside, the Warden has accomplished their task. They stopped the Blight and may have prevented another by killing the Architect. The Grey Wardens are defenders against the Blight, without a Blight any story featuring the Warden as a primary character will be a bit empty in meaning and potential. (Even Golems of Amgarrak had the "Harvester" darkspawn, and Witch Hunt was supposedly tying up loose ends.)

I also don't see moving on from Ferelden as "throwing the choices out the window." With data import for future games confirmed, the devs can decide whether anything will really matter. Ferelden is just one small nation in a big world. Loghain's redemption or death doesn't mean **** to an Ander or qunari. Who's on the throne has an effect in the long run, not right now. The "Old God Baby" is a huge plot magnet, but it's not coming back at least until Morrigan does.

As for Hawke, it's *way* too early to guess at his involvement in other stories. He has a lot more potential to return though, as he apparently sparks a war during his rise to power. At this point, he could be in future games as the protagonist. As far as we know, he might also have something happen (like death) that makes him even less suitable than the Warden for returning. All we know is that he (or she) causes one of the most important events in the Dragon Age, and that DA2 isn't even going to let us see what that is (or so I believe from dev quotes about Cassandra not being important in DA2, but being more important in DA3 when the war really starts.)

[Mister_Shepard]

I hope one of the devs could answer this.

[bsbcaer]

Mister_Shepard wrote...

I hope one of the devs could answer this.

My guess for a dev answer would be:  Let's focus on DA2 for now and not speculate what could or could not be happening in possible future games.  And then the thread would be locked down

I'd be hoping that a dev doesn't see this so you could continue speculating

[jackkel dragon]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

To me, the character Hawke is just a stereotypical strong jawed hero that are a dime a dozen, maybe im just oldschool tho lol

I'm not sure if you're oldschool, but I think you're missing some of the point of the "legend" of Hawke allowing you to make him your character. (Also, Hawke is the standard BioWare protagonist that I've only seen broken with NWN. BG series has Bhaalspawn, JE has the spirit monk, etc. The only real difference is voice over.)

I've been struggling to figure out what Hawke does differently that causes people to flinch. Since BG, we've always had our background and destiny predefined in some way. Yes, there were more customization options related to race and class and name, but as far as we know Hawke might make up for it with the "choices" thing DA2 has going.

Then again, maybe I'm just too indoctrinated by the "new" may of doing things. Programming a video game has limits that can be broken in other RPGs, so I just look at the trend of the predfined hero in every CRPG and wonder why people would rather choose race than what they actually do to the characters they meet.

[Shadedclan]

Definitely. As I remember correctly, Hawke is the most important character in the DA universe. So I'm guessing he would be like the savior of the world or something.

[upsettingshorts]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

The draw for alot of people is with the Warden, whether you liked him or not, he/she was "your guy/gal", you could kind of use your imagination a bit, and it felt that the story was based around you, and not a character that you were "forced" to be (Hawke).

The Warden wasn't a blank slate either.  He or she was one of six semi-predesigned characters.  Hawke, as far as we know, is no more "fixed" than any of the origins were. 

Night Prowler76 wrote...

To me, the character Hawke is just a stereotypical strong jawed hero that are a dime a dozen, maybe im just oldschool tho lol

I see absolutely no reason whatsoever why Hawke must be that.  This isn't Mass Effect - Hawke starts out as a refugee, not a highly decorated space marine.

Certainly by the end of DA2 he or she will be very important - but then so was the Warden.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 01 janvier 2011 - 06:47 .

[bsbcaer]

Shadedclan wrote...

Definitely. As I remember correctly, Hawke is the most important character in the DA universe. So I'm guessing he would be like the savior of the world or something.

As far as I recall, Hawke is not the be-all/end-all (ie. the most important character) in the DA University...he is, however, a rather important character

[GodWood]

I find it very unlikely the Warden will ever appear in another game (despite mine being king prince consort) and to be honest I hope Hawke is the same.
Someone who shapes the world for future games but is not playable nor seen again.

Modifié par GodWood, 01 janvier 2011 - 06:55 .

[Drasanil]

Hawke will likely play a role in future DA games, but I'd rather he not be the PC again. Darth Gaider mentioned when talking about Hawke, in one of the preview articles, that there were several major conflcits in Thedas, Templars Vs Mages which is presumably covered by Hawke and the other he mentioned was Elves Vs Humans.

So DA III will probably focus on another of these "major conflicts", hopefully it means we'll have an elven PC. Because if that particular conflict is worked through with a human PC, it'll either result in some tacky Avatarish bullpooky or something really really bad. 

[Ryzaki]

No.



I hope not. If he/she is I rather they be in the background and invisible. There are far too many ways for that to screw up for me to count and I rather not take the risk.

[Cthulus]

I get that they're trying to gum up Hawke for being, yes, the most important character in the series, but that's exactly why I don't like him. It's as if they're spitting on all of our achievements during the first game, and it's just frustrating, in my own honest opinion.

The most integral part of a successful Roleplaying game, I would suppose, is that allows the roleplayer to place them self within the story and have a world both impacted by their presence and have that world impact them. By placing a new character (with something at least resembling a complete background and a set of ideals) and stating that he will overshadow everything you've done.. ever.. that tends to a ridiculously stupid claim.

I really hope that something bad happens to Hawke at the end of his little journey. And that's just my opinion. Though I'll be honest and say that I at least hope he'll be a character throughout the series, though I hope he isn't so important next time.

Modifié par Cthulus, 01 janvier 2011 - 06:58 .

[bsbcaer]

GodWood wrote...

I find it very unlikely the Warden will ever appear in another game (despite mine being king prince consort) and to be honest I hope Hawke is the same.
Someone who shapes the world for future games but is not playable nor seen again.

I agree with this hope that Hawke won't appear in future DA games as a playable protagonist or NPC; in part, it helps the developers with the issue of scaling with respect to future games.  You do all this awesome crap in DA2 and you'll either have to scale everything back for the Hawke v. 2 (amnesia a la KOTOR) or scale everything up (DA: Awakenings) for the sequel.  By having a new character in a future game, you can avoid that problem altogether...

[Sharn01]

I do not want returning characters. First I want a new character starting at level 1 with a new story, preferably with more creation options. Second, its difficult to pick up an old characters story without throwing out a lot of the decisions and personality choices the player made from the previous game. Bioware has never succeeded at this in any sequal yet as well, so they are not showing a better track record in that department then anyone else. In thier last attempt they reset the main characters level to 1 as well, and instead of just doing it, came up with an incredibly lame reason for it.

[Babyinf3rno]

Modifié par Babyinf3rno, 01 janvier 2011 - 07:19 .

[Babyinf3rno]

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

I wouldnt mind the series going through several different times and characters, but I definately think that the Warden and Morrigan should be back at some point, if not I probably wont be as interested in the series.

Agree with the time thing. But the Warden should return at a point in the end of the "story" of Dragon Age. Make it much more dramatic.

Yep, I agree with you Ms. Lovey, that's what I was trying to get at, but I guess I didn't word it right