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[Babyinf3rno]

Cthulus wrote...

I get that they're trying to gum up Hawke for being, yes, the most important character in the series, but that's exactly why I don't like him. It's as if they're spitting on all of our achievements during the first game, and it's just frustrating, in my own honest opinion.

Yeah, I kinda feel the same way. I'm interested to find out more and see
more about what BioWare has in store for this story and the future of
DA but still kind of dissappointed at the same time. With new extensions
of games come disappointments.  Just gotta wait and see what they have
in store for us.

[bsbcaer]

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I hope the Warden never comes back. Because I don't want to play a Grey Warden anymore.
Unless the story allows the Warden to leave or replace the organization. Then I'd be all for it.
In contrast with what others think, I really don't believe the Warden is integral to Morrigan's story, even with the potential old god baby.

Um......he's the baby daddy (in some playthroughs). Just because Hawkes in the New DA you don't want to play the warden? The fact he/she was a warden was only a minor thing in their persona anyway.

How do you figure that?  We played our origin for ony 1/60th of the game (assuming 1 hr origin, 60 hr total playthrough) and our origin was barely mentioned/referred to in the rest of the game. 

As for the warden, how would you incorporate him/her/it in a new game?  You can't do any voice over for the character (everyone would be going "that's not how MY warden sounds!") and it would need to work well enough story-wise rather than just plopping him into the story

Modifié par bsbcaer, 01 janvier 2011 - 07:21 .

[Auroras]

jackkel dragon wrote...

Hawke will at least be referenced after DA2. Cassandra supposedly isn't finished, and is going to have a role in DA3 is trying to fix Hawke's mess.

Cassandra is Nevarran, correct? So perhaps DA3 will take place in Nevarra...?

[Dave of Canada]

If the Warden shows up again, he better be with Morrigan and not mysteriously missing.

[Dave of Canada]

Auroras wrote...

Cassandra is Nevarran, correct? So perhaps DA3 will take place in Nevarra...?

Varric is also involved somehow, so unless he travels with her?

[Rakumn]

Auroras wrote...

jackkel dragon wrote...

Hawke will at least be referenced after DA2. Cassandra supposedly isn't finished, and is going to have a role in DA3 is trying to fix Hawke's mess.

Cassandra is Nevarran, correct? So perhaps DA3 will take place in Nevarra...?

The whole country is filled with artistry, from the statues of heroes
that litter the streets in even the meanest villages to the glittering
golden College of Magi in Cumberland. Perhaps nowhere is more
astonishing than the vast necropolis outside Nevarra City. Unlike most
other followers of Andraste, the Nevarrans do not burn their dead.
Instead, they carefully preserve the bodies and seal them in elaborate
tombs. Some of the wealthiest Nevarrans begin construction of their own
tombs while quite young, and these become incredible palaces, complete
with gardens, bathhouses, and ballrooms, utterly silent, kept only for
the dead.
--From Codex Entry: Nevarra

Sounds like a good excuse to make some underground dungeoning. I like it.

[Auroras]

bsbcaer wrote...

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I hope the Warden never comes back. Because I don't want to play a Grey Warden anymore.
Unless the story allows the Warden to leave or replace the organization. Then I'd be all for it.
In contrast with what others think, I really don't believe the Warden is integral to Morrigan's story, even with the potential old god baby.

Um......he's the baby daddy (in some playthroughs). Just because Hawkes in the New DA you don't want to play the warden? The fact he/she was a warden was only a minor thing in their persona anyway.

How do you figure that?  We played our origin for ony 1/60th of the game (assuming 1 hr origin, 60 hr total playthrough) and our origin was barely mentioned/referred to in the rest of the game. 

As for the warden, how would you incorporate him/her/it in a new game?  You can't do any voice over for the character (everyone would be going "that's not how MY warden sounds!") and it would need to work well enough story-wise rather than just plopping him into the story

I found a real sense of completion for my Warden. I think her (or his) story is done, and it's time to move on. That's my two cents, anyways. 

Modifié par Auroras, 01 janvier 2011 - 07:43 .

[upsettingshorts]

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

Um......he's the baby daddy (in some playthroughs).

Are you saying that Morrigan isn't capable of being a "single mom?"  The Warden doesn't even have had to have been the one who did the deed even in saves in which the Warden was in love with Morrigan and went through the mirror*.  His daddyness - or Loghain's or Alistairs - is a technicality of biological necessity.   If the baby exists at all.

* At least I think so.

Unlike a lot of the Morrigan/Warden arguments I read on here, I don't believe the writers are responsible for meeting their expectations as to how that relationship is going to play out.  What matters is what matters - does the baby exist, and does it have the soul of an old god? 

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

Just because Hawkes in the New DA you don't want to play the warden?

No.  I thought the Wardens were a great way to introduce the player to the world of Thedas - they're neutral, they can go anywhere, their purpose at least in DAO is to unite different people towards one goal.  Therefore I got to use my Warden card to access Orzammar, the Dalish, the Circle of Magi, and the nobility of Ferelden.  That's fine.  I've seen all that.  Now I'd like to play a character whose sole existence isn't simply about killing monsters and whose motivations and goals can be more dynamic.  If that means switching protagonists every game I'm fine with that.  If it means "Champion of Kirkwall" can mean a lot of different things in the way "Hero of Ferelden" cannot?  I'm fine with that too.

That and I have several issues with the Grey Wardens and would rather not have to play a character forced into liking them again.  I felt the same way about the Jedi and the Sith personally, so it's nothing new for me.

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

The fact he/she was a warden was only a minor thing in their persona anyway.

Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening says otherwise.  Even without that, I'd disagree completely.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 01 janvier 2011 - 07:47 .

[marshalleck]

New year's prediction: one year from now, everyone will be talking about how they want their Hawke to come back in DA3 and they will be angry that Bioware is promoting a new protagonist.

[jackkel dragon]

marshalleck wrote...

New year's prediction: one year from now, everyone will be talking about how they want their Hawke to come back in DA3 and they will be angry that Bioware is promoting a new protagonist.

My thoughts exactly. Those who are left, anyway.

And I'll be singing the same mantra.

[Heretical]

It's going to be downright stupid if Morrigan returns without her lover who went with her. Unless DA3 is set in a time after the Warden's shortened lifespan ends, and Morrigan returns as an older woman.

[SgtElias]

Auroras wrote...

I found a real sense of completion for my Warden. I think her (or his) story is done, and it's time to move on. That's my two cents, anyways. 

After time I felt this way, a well. I admit that when it was first announced that the Warden would not be returning, I was disappointed. But now, I see it as a good thing; we can see and experience so much more of Thedas, without any ridiculous explanations as to why a Warden (especially a war hero) is wandering around from place to place starting wars and righting wrongs.

And this way, I can decide myself exactly how the story ended for her: she disappeared with Alistair, and lived happily ever after, tainted with darkspawn blood until her Calling, when she ran screaming into the Deep Roads and fell upon the Darkspawn Horde. The end.

marshalleck wrote...

New year's prediction: one year from now, everyone will be talking about how they want their Hawke to come back in DA3 and they will be angry that Bioware is promoting a new protagonist.

My husband and I were just discussing this very point. 

Modifié par SgtElias, 01 janvier 2011 - 09:11 .

[Aldandil]

Dave of Canada wrote...

If the Warden shows up again, he better be with Morrigan and not mysteriously missing.

If the Warden shows up, he better not be missing? I totally agree!

[White_Buffalo94]

bsbcaer wrote...

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I hope the Warden never comes back. Because I don't want to play a Grey Warden anymore.
Unless the story allows the Warden to leave or replace the organization. Then I'd be all for it.
In contrast with what others think, I really don't believe the Warden is integral to Morrigan's story, even with the potential old god baby.

Um......he's the baby daddy (in some playthroughs). Just because Hawkes in the New DA you don't want to play the warden? The fact he/she was a warden was only a minor thing in their persona anyway.

How do you figure that?  We played our origin for ony 1/60th of the game (assuming 1 hr origin, 60 hr total playthrough) and our origin was barely mentioned/referred to in the rest of the game. 

As for the warden, how would you incorporate him/her/it in a new game?  You can't do any voice over for the character (everyone would be going "that's not how MY warden sounds!") and it would need to work well enough story-wise rather than just plopping him into the story

By the time the Warden returns it could be time for his calling and maybe the taint adversely affects him and makes him go nuts and bite his own tongue off

[White_Buffalo94]

Auroras wrote...

jackkel dragon wrote...

Hawke will at least be referenced after DA2. Cassandra supposedly isn't finished, and is going to have a role in DA3 is trying to fix Hawke's mess.

Cassandra is Nevarran, correct? So perhaps DA3 will take place in Nevarra...?

Oh I hope so. The codex on Nevarra is enough to make me crave to see it...

[White_Buffalo94]

Heretical wrote...

It's going to be downright stupid if Morrigan returns without her lover who went with her. Unless DA3 is set in a time after the Warden's shortened lifespan ends, and Morrigan returns as an older woman.

Ohhhh, great idea. Not incorporating our warden directly yet having Morrigan talk about her love would be good. But assuming she becomes powerful enough to take on Flemeth I'd assume she can prolong the Wardens lifespan

[Uhh.. Jonah]

I see us being Hawke in DA3..

1- s/he's the most important character in the DA universe.

2- we'll grow way too attached to Hawke, like we did with the Warden.

3- S/HE'S F*****G COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i like him.

[Indoctrination]

Are people still clinging desperately to their Wardens? Come on now, guys. All good things have to come to an end. If the developers tried to somehow weasel in the protagonists of all of the previous games in each new instalment in the series, you'd get convoluted story lines which would just get more and more convoluted the further the series progresses.

Also, I'm pretty sure some of the developers have said many times that Dragon Age is a series that tells the story of a continent (Thedas). This notion that the series as a whole is about telling the story of a few select characters is likely a product of your imaginations.

Modifié par Indoctrination, 01 janvier 2011 - 10:18 .

[TheHawkeWhoFlies]

I really don't know enough about DA2 to predict whether Hawke will be important in future installments; he/she could die at the end for all we know. As I see it, it could go both ways; Hawke is being marketed as the most important person in Thedas, and that would be pretty hard to top with a new protagonist; then again BW's insistence on DA2 being a personal story, I keep believing (and hoping) that Hawke won't be the protagonist in future games - that his story wraps up there, so to speak.



As I said, I'm more in favor of a new protagonist in DA3 rather than playing Hawke again, especially if it opens the possibility to pick elf or dwarf again (though I'm being very optimistic on the latter; somehow I seriously doubt we'll ever get to play a non-human again, truth be told). One can only hope, I guess.

[vicegt]

i think the warden wont be back in the since we all think. like stated above to many problems in trying to bring them back. but it my lead to the warden have an impact one way or another. there a fair chance that in a later game we may play as the grand child of the warden, whether you went with any of the love interest. and as for the god baby. it will exist one way or another. there's more then just are warden and at lest 2 more blight's for it to happen.

[JamieCOTC]

I really hope the Hawke does not turn out to be the Commander Shepard of the DA universe. I'll trust BW to do what they say and that DA is the story of Thedas and DA3 will feature an entirely different character.

[Potato Cat]

I think he/she either dies or disappears at the end of DA2. Otherwise, why would Cassandra be asking Varric when she could ask Hawke???

[VernahVonKickass]

With the warden not being playable in DA2, I don't see him being playable in the future. I think the god baby plot, the decisions you've made on DAO, will be saved in the DA2 saves, which can be used for any DA3 title. For example if you chose to not have the uber god baby, then it will be a completely different plot in DA3. Or they will just have a "canon" playthrough and there will be a god baby anyways.