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Hawke's Involvement Beyond DA2


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#51
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I'm sure what Hawke DOES will have an impact past DA2. (assuming the IP gets continued). I have no prob playing as a new protagonist in every game though, I actually rather prefer it. Also, no I'd rather not see the Warden return. Maybe as a companion, that seems like a lot of (unnecessary) work for the devs however.

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My Hawke will make the ultimate sacrifice and settle down to a life of idle contentment with her pirate lady-friend.

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Aldandil wrote...

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If the Warden shows up again, he better be with Morrigan and not mysteriously missing. :P

If the Warden shows up, he better not be missing? I totally agree!


I meant like...
"The Warden is somewhere around here, probably shopping at one of the stalls. Meh, he's unimportant. Let's get down to business."

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My biggest issue is having certain companions/plots like Morrigan/Flemeth and the OGB being carried forward and allowing the PC get intimately involved in them, only for that PC to not be around in any meaningful way when that plot comes to its conclusion. Same goes for Hawke too- if he/she starts some big epic thing in DA2 or makes some big/epic choice akin to the Dark Ritual, I'd want them to be the one dealing with the long term consequences to their own actions, not some new Epic Hero of Thedas.

I'm hoping that the framed narrative can deal with the whole long term consequences angle of things a bit better than Origins, but we shall see. Just like I want my Wardens back to deal with Morrigan in the future, I'd want/expect Hawke back in the future should some new plot be started at the end of DA2, like the OGB plot was started at the end of Origins for the Warden (if you went that route of course).

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*all below is my hypothesis for the DA series*

i think the warden is done, WHEN morrigan returns it will be after the wardens death (this is to appease fans who romanced her.) and i hope the warden doesn't return, i was happy with my ending.

Hawke will be the protagonist in DA2 and either a well done expansion or DA3

Orlais is the next stop for the story

*once again just my opinion*


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froogle345 wrote...
i think the warden is done, WHEN morrigan returns it will be after the wardens death (this is to appease fans who romanced her.) and i hope the warden doesn't return, i was happy with my ending



I don't see how pulling a Viconia would appease Warden/Morrigan fans by off screen killing the Warden. Thats precisely what I don't want to have happen.

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While it would be awesome to have your character's features carry over as an NPC, I don't know how that would look in execution. For one, there would need to be a stock model.

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VernahVonKickass wrote...

With the warden not being playable in DA2, I don't see him being playable in the future. I think the god baby plot, the decisions you've made on DAO, will be saved in the DA2 saves, which can be used for any DA3 title. For example if you chose to not have the uber god baby, then it will be a completely different plot in DA3. Or they will just have a "canon" playthrough and there will be a god baby anyways.


Apparently, the god baby is the default story. 

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Hard to say anything about Hawke's potential involvement beyond DA2 without knowing how the game ends. Personally, I'd like to see Hawke return in future games, since he/she isn't tied to a particular organization or place and is free to appear in future stories, provided he/she survives the events of DA2.

Also, depending on Hawke's relationship with Flemeth he may have a reason to be in Morrigan's story as a PC.

Personally, I see the notion of creating compelling characters, only to discard them after a single game to be a waste. You don't need to use them twice in a row, but don't write them off after only a single adventure either.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 01 janvier 2011 - 10:10 .


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Isn't it obvious, wheater we like it or not DA2 will set up the chaos that the Old God Baby will have to fix not Hawke,the plot of Da3 will most likely revolve around the morrigan training the obg to defeat flemeth who is taking advantage of the current state of the world,and the ogb will have to stop her think of it the final battle,ogb turns back into uthermiel and has am epic dragon v dragon fight with flemeth.
Even if we choose not to bed morrigan and have the baby Bioware's bound to make it canon some how.

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JamieCOTC wrote...

Apparently, the god baby is the default story. 


Which matters about as much - less, since you can pick from several default stories - as the default settings in Mass Effect 2, with Councilor Udina and the council being wiped out.

So it doesn't matter much at all.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 01 janvier 2011 - 09:48 .


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Even so, I really like the fact they're giving us 3 distinct default options. I find the fact they picked Dalish elf and Dwarf Noble interesting as well.

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lets play this first

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Elfman wrote...

I think he/she either dies or disappears at the end of DA2. Otherwise, why would Cassandra be asking Varric when she could ask Hawke???


This is true.
This is very true.

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Because she doesn't know where Hawke is, or how to find him.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Because she doesn't know where Hawke is, or how to find him.


Double post see below :P

Modifié par stickmanhenry, 01 janvier 2011 - 10:37 .


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This is also true.

But surely if he hadn't run away/disappeared it would be quite easy to find him, with her being a 'Seeker' and all.

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edit: triple post. *facepalm* accidentally hit 'quote' instead of 'edit' 

See above. <_<

Modifié par stickmanhenry, 01 janvier 2011 - 10:38 .


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The thing with the Old God Baby is that although some people didn't carry out the DR , Bioware could still easily make it cannon.

For example another Blight could occur where we don't actually play a character involved in it, where Morrigan actually found another Grey Warden who was willing to participate in the DR. Might make some people angry but if Bioware decides it's necessary for the story i imagine they'll do it.

With Dragon Age 3 i would like to go to Tevinter (where i thought DA2 would be set) seeing as that seems like the place where everything important has occured. Im terrible at predictions though, i remember thinking that the Free Marches was the most unlikely place for DA2 to be set.

Modifié par Moustache Man, 02 janvier 2011 - 12:11 .


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Moustache Man wrote...

The thing with the Old God Baby is that although some people didn't carry out thr DR , Bioware could still easily make it cannon.


They could easily make anything canon if they thought it would make for a good story.

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i hope that when the time comes for what i'm hoping to be some sort of huge conflict to decide the fate of thedas that your decisions throughout the series will change what side the warden and hawke will be on. (if they both survive to that point)

Modifié par KJandrew, 02 janvier 2011 - 12:17 .


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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Moustache Man wrote...

The thing with the Old God Baby is that although some people didn't carry out thr DR , Bioware could still easily make it cannon.


They could easily make anything canon if they thought it would make for a good story.



To be honest with some things like this i wish they would. Although im probably being biased since i prefer the DR over the US, but it seems to me that when Bioware decided to make the OGB they inteded to make something important out of it in the future. But who knows, maybe they'll do something completely unexpeted with it. 


About Hawke being a future protaginist/companion/whatever ill suppose we'll have to wait and see what DA2 is like first. Im not sure if i would like to see DA handle protaginists the same way as something like the Elder Scrolls does. Although i can see how it allows the story be expanded through various perspectives, which is usually quite good.

The problem with DA:O and it's dlc's is that there were so many choices that the player could make which could be important in later installments like the DR or the fate of The Architect ,  and maybe even some choices that seemed minor at the time. 

Modifié par Moustache Man, 02 janvier 2011 - 12:29 .


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My favorite ending is Redeemer, personally. We'll see in any case.

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I have a feeling that DA2's focus on the chantry and mage's is going to lead up to DA3 being based in the Tevinter Imperium and you're either a mage where the roles will be reversed and you're the respected one or you're a normal person and you're the freak that's looked down on.



There could be alot done with the past Tevinter history and what the current one is up to.

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stickmanhenry wrote...

Elfman wrote...
I think he/she either dies or disappears at the end of DA2. Otherwise, why would Cassandra be asking Varric when she could ask Hawke???

This is true.
This is very true.


Not if the story jumps to current events rather than Varric's tales at the end.