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[james1976]

I see him as having more than one title.



The moment he became a Spectre he became something else than Alliance Military. However, he retained the rank. Which is kind of funny that an Admiral went to inspect his ship in the first game when really there is nothing the Admiral could have done if he didn't like what he saw. Spectre status means he didn't have to answer to the Alliance if he didn't want to.



Commander - Alliance Military/Cerebus

Captain Shepard vas Normandy - as he is referred to by the Quarian Admiralty and Tali is assigned to his ship on record

Spectre - Citadel Council



Due to his death he lost his military and spectre status. You can regain the title of Spectre depending on how you play it all. Officially Shepard is no longer in the military and is known to be working "with/for" Cerebus. Alliance and Cerebus aren't exactly friends. But he died under the rank of Commander. He wasn't stripped of his rank and therefore retains it even in their records though he's not a member.



A number of these things all play out based on whatever you did with character. But the Quardians call him Captain and to me that is good enough.

[Weiser_Cain]

I'm got my Spectre status back as for the rest, I'm a ghost.

[PARAGON87]

Personally, at the very moment Shepard gets reinstated by the Alliance, I wouldn't be surprised if they promoted him to Admiral on the spot.

[Revenant_Mortalus]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

... or maybe you would prefer to be called Master of the Universe!

I HAAAAVVE THE POWWERRRRR...!!!

InHarmsWay wrote...

Bamboozalist wrote...

Fun fact: Kaiden in ME2 he technically out ranks you.

Fun fact: No he doesn't.

As many have pointed out from time and time again, Shepard hasn't been part of the Alliance since he became a Spectre. Technically he's Agent Shepard (As Bailey will address you as if you speak to him after the Council). His rank supercedes any rank of the Alliance.

This assumption is wrong wrong wrong.  Before the Luna mission in ME1, Hackett clearly says to you "You're still human.  You're still part of the Alliance Military, and right now we need you."  As for Shepard not being part of the Alliance by reason of death, soldiers get posthumously promoted - why, if they don't retain their rank...?

[Fro_McJoe]

Yeah, feel. Captain would be the most appropriate rank for him to since its the highest rank a person can have without having to necessarily command multiple ships. Then again, I wouldn't mind "Commodore Shepard", even though us Americans don't have the rank anymore even though most of the world does....

[thompsmt]

I would have figured Shepard would have been added to the promotion list for Staff Commander a day or two (at most) after 5th Fleet comes into save the day at the Citadel.



But that's just my view.

[Fro_McJoe]

Also Colonel isn't a Navy rank. And I think Kaiden is Marines, so, yeah Shepard still out ranks his ass by several pay grades.

[Fro_McJoe]

Never heard of Rudel until now. D*MN! 9 kills in a Stuka! That is one of the most impressive things I have heard in a while. Still I think Erich Hartmann trumps that with his 352 kills

[AlanC9]

Completely free? I'm not sure I'd go that far.

[Schneidend]

Shepard is already a "captain" simply by commanding a ship and crew.



Shepard effectively retired from the Alliance upon being inducted into the Spectres, and it is customary for one to retain their rank when honorably discharged.



The Alliance no longer has any authority over Shepard, and therefore a promotion in their military would be meaningless.

[elfdwarf]

fun fact:) Naval and coast guard senior officer ranks include Captain and Commander. In some countries, the more senior rank of Commodore is also included. In others Lieutenant-Commanders, as equivalents to army and marine Majors, are considered senior officers.

[xares23x]

cause having legion say Shepard captain just would sound ridiculous

[Fro_McJoe]

elfdwarf wrote...

fun fact:) Naval and coast guard senior officer ranks include Captain and Commander. In some countries, the more senior rank of Commodore is also included. In others Lieutenant-Commanders, as equivalents to army and marine Majors, are considered senior officers.

YEAH!! Finally someone who feels me on "Commodore Shepard"!

[sinosleep]

Even if he was still an alliance marine, it could be a simple as political BS. Chesty Puller, the most highly decorated Marine in the history of the United States, felt he was blacked balled from getting his last promotion and forced into retirement.

Modifié par sinosleep, 05 janvier 2011 - 01:33 .

[Archontor]

well when your called captain shepard on the quarian ship you can comment on it in a way that makes it seem like you don't want to be called captain.

[Tested-Faythe]

... irrelevant thread is irrelevent

[FlintlockJazz]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

I was just wondering this...

You'd think that after the end of ME1 with everything Shep did either for the council or for humanity (depending on your choice..) that they would at least make him a captain?

I guess I kind of understand that for game/marketing reasons its kind of cooler sounding to say "Commander Shepard"...


but still...anyone else find this kind of weird?

LOL the alliance must have the strictest hardest promotion paths EVAR.

You died.

I got better (sorry... couldn't resist)

@Bianco Yeah... no matter what your background is, he had an affair with your mother, though of course that isn't true, because the scariest factor is that TIM is actually Shep's Father...

*suddenly can hear all the 'Luke' style screams of NOOOOOOO from all the fans*

Search your feelings, you know it to be true > THAT is why he is interested in Shep. THAT is why Sole Survivors survived and why they couldn't question Cerberus about it because deep down inside Shep knows that TIM is their father and once Cerberus has conquered the Galaxy you can rule beside him as Father and Son/Daughter. Why be a Commander when you can be a Prince/ss of the Universe and then after TIM has died, King/Queen of the Universe... or maybe you would prefer to be called Master of the Universe!

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite post on the forums.

[lovgreno]

Shep has moved on from petty things like military ranks to more important things.

[mineralica]

I think it was planned some sort of promotional ceremony on Citadel after all the repairments will end but Shepard successfully died to that moment. Also Shepard may become a Staff Commander at the beginning of ME3 if reunited with Alliance (Lieutenant Commander, Staff Commander - this all seems to be "Commander Shepard" in ads)

[FlintlockJazz]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

@Bianco re: My last post (and I guess to the others that didn't understand it)
You mentioned about Hackett being Shep's dad, so I intially agreed and worked a way to cover it for all 'Shep' backgrounds but then decided to go with the whole 'TIM is your father' angle, seeing as that was one thing missing from ME2 for it to have relevance to ESB if Cerberus/TIM is to be the big bad evil some make it/him out to be and also give reasoning for why he wanted to ensure Shep survived. Then I decided to go into Empire Strikes Back territory by re-itterating a line Darth Vader said to Luke, then went into Highlander territory with the 'Prince of the Universe' line (ok it's queen song, but it's main theme for Highlander: The Series) then from there went to He-Man the Master of the Universe

Basically I was in a jovial mood last night and figured I'd share some of my crazy talk as it befitted the topic title so well with different names/titles to give Shepard. It could've been worse, because initially I was going to include a para-phrasing of the 'initial dialogue' that Prince Adam/He-Man gave at the start of the cartoon. But it just didn't make any sense so I deleted it and for everyones sanity (including what little I have left of mine ) I ain't ever going to post it.

Oh and if we ever have a ME RTS I am NOT going to be one of those stupid Admirals sitting at the back of the battlefield safe from harm. A good Admiral LEADS their troops from the front not the back

How else will they get to shout out the immortal line... "ITS A TRAP!"

I actually think that, while TIM being your father is probably not true there is the possibility that there is something dodgy about Shepard's parentage.  I mean, consider all three of the possible backgrounds:

Earthborn - You never knew your parents.
Colonist - Your parents were both killed when you were young.
Spacer - Both your parents were supposedly in the military, yet only your mother is ever mentioned or referenced to throughout the game.  Possibly your father died, but also your mother may have had you out of wedlock, and Shepard is actually her maiden name, meaning that your father could be named anything.

And it's always a trap!

[FlintlockJazz]

As for the rank thing, you don't get promoted for awesome performance. Rank is not a reflection of performance, but of capability to command. You get medals for doing well, rank is given when they have a spare position and think you have the capability to do the job.



For example, Special Ops do amazing work and can perform better than many other soldiers and yet never get promoted very high due to the fact that they are more likely to work in small groups rather than large ones and because by promoting them you are increasing their administrative and desk-related workload, taking time away from actually going out on missions and using their skills. Shepard is an N7, which in the Alliance means that he is essentially a marine or special ops, and therefore by making him a captain would've meant that he would have spent more time sitting back and not using his N7 training as much, wasting his potential.