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[Jibbed34]

The PS3 version does indeed run on the ME3 engine, but all assets are from ME2 - right down to the smallest details. Unless you're looking really hard, you won't see any graphical updates BECAUSE IT'S STILL MASS EFFECT 2.



ME3 will provide another graphical jump.. just be patient.

[essensx]

i remember the developer said its locked to 30 fps

[essensx]

delete.

Modifié par essensx, 02 janvier 2011 - 12:21 .

[BringerOfChaos]

shinobi602 wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Funny since the ME2 on the 360 is locked at 30 fps and the ps3 version hits around 58 or 60 at max.

No it doesn't. Check Digital Foundry's analysis. It fluctuates from 30 and goes to the 40's sometimes when in a hallway or looking up at space (because there's not much to render on screen). It dips below 30 too sometimes.

I'd rather have constant 30fps, consistent framerate is much better in my opinion, it keeps it steady and you don't notice it. I hate it when the framerate fluctuates, takes me out of the experience and makes the 30fps look slow again after coming back down from momentary high fps.

Consistency is always best.

I don't like playing at 30fps especially if it dips below that.
At least if it dips at 60 then the lowest it might go is 40 which is still better than the 360's default.

We can't really right fully compare them sense one is running on an updated engine. Doesn't seem fair.

It was consistent for me.

I literally only ran into one screen tear.

[BringerOfChaos]

Jibbed34 wrote...

The PS3 version does indeed run on the ME3 engine, but all assets are from ME2 - right down to the smallest details. Unless you're looking really hard, you won't see any graphical updates BECAUSE IT'S STILL MASS EFFECT 2.

ME3 will provide another graphical jump.. just be patient.

This.

[BringerOfChaos]

essensx wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

essensx wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

I've looked at both the 360 and ps3 version's on Mass effect 2.

The ps3 version looks and plays better than the 360. You guys should deal with it.

not true.

www.gameblurb.net/featured/versus-mass-effect-2-screenshot-comparison/

And? I'd rather trust my how eyes and my own sources.

That guy is obviously a mad xbaby who is pissed off that that the xbox lost one of the only reasons to buy it.

i just gave you proof, you can't just disclaim it like that...

Yes I can and I just did.

Give me one reason why I should trust that guy. 

Unrelated question... Why did they remove AA from ME2?

Modifié par BringerOfChaos, 02 janvier 2011 - 12:00 .

[shinobi602]

Check Digital Foundry's video comparison:
www.eurogamer.net/videos/masseffect2-360-vs-ps3-faceoff

And here it shows clear screen tearing on the PS3, and a lot of framerate drops:
www.eurogamer.net/videos/mass-effect-2-demo-ps3-360-performance-analysis

They seem to have added some more light sources in the PS3 version, coming from...somewhere. Their in depth analysis is a good read too.

Modifié par shinobi602, 02 janvier 2011 - 12:02 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

BringerOfChaos wrote...

essensx wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

I've looked at both the 360 and ps3 version's on Mass effect 2.

The ps3 version looks and plays better than the 360. You guys should deal with it.

not true.

www.gameblurb.net/featured/versus-mass-effect-2-screenshot-comparison/

And? I'd rather trust my how eyes and my own sources.

That guy is obviously a mad xbaby who is pissed off that that the xbox lost one of the only reasons to buy it.

Trust YOUR eyes? You mean the eyes attached to the head that is burrowed deep up Sony's ass? Yeah i think everyone should take a raging fanboy's opinion with a grain of salt. It's been proven that the PS3 version is pretty much exactly the same as the 360 version, with blacker shadows and screen tearing. Deal with it.

[Nibroc17]

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Meanwhile on the PC they'll have all the cool visuals, but a ****ty means to control it. Yes, I am talking about the mouse and keyboard.

What kind of ****-ERY is this bull-**** your spewing sir!?!

[Shadesofsiknas]

Yeah he seems to think he is very skilled playing on the console with aim-assist.. Id like to see him shoot with a gamepad without aim-assist.



Mouse and Keyboard are miles ahead when it comes to shooter controls.

[SSV Enterprise]

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Unrelated question... Why did they remove AA from ME2?

It consumes memory.  BioWare probably thought it better to allocate memory towards stuff like reducing texture pop-in.

[BringerOfChaos]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

essensx wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

I've looked at both the 360 and ps3 version's on Mass effect 2.

The ps3 version looks and plays better than the 360. You guys should deal with it.

not true.

www.gameblurb.net/featured/versus-mass-effect-2-screenshot-comparison/

And? I'd rather trust my how eyes and my own sources.

That guy is obviously a mad xbaby who is pissed off that that the xbox lost one of the only reasons to buy it.

Trust YOUR eyes? You mean the eyes attached to the head that is burrowed deep up Sony's ass? Yeah i think everyone should take a raging fanboy's opinion with a grain of salt. It's been proven that the PS3 version is pretty much exactly the same as the 360 version, with blacker shadows and screen tearing. Deal with it.

If doing that makes me a fanboy then doing what you're doing makes you a fanboy as well. 
Deal with it.

[BringerOfChaos]

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

Yeah he seems to think he is very skilled playing on the console with aim-assist.. Id like to see him shoot with a gamepad without aim-assist.

Mouse and Keyboard are miles ahead when it comes to shooter controls.

Who said ME2 had aim assist.
I can shoot just fine without aim assist on a pad.

I never ****ing said it takes more skill to use a controller.
I would never play any game with a M&K.

[BringerOfChaos]

SSV Enterprise wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Unrelated question... Why did they remove AA from ME2?

It consumes memory.  BioWare probably thought it better to allocate memory towards stuff like reducing texture pop-in.

Do you think they'll put it back into the ps3 version? I doubt it considering it's just a port.

Maybe ME3 will have it.

[essensx]

http://attackofthefa...3-xbox-360-779/



http://www.play-mag....hot-comparison/



http://www.bharatlov.../view/29299/53/



do you need more proof?

[BringerOfChaos]

shinobi602 wrote...

Check Digital Foundry's video comparison:
www.eurogamer.net/videos/masseffect2-360-vs-ps3-faceoff

And here it shows clear screen tearing on the PS3, and a lot of framerate drops:
www.eurogamer.net/videos/mass-effect-2-demo-ps3-360-performance-analysis

They seem to have added some more light sources in the PS3 version, coming from...somewhere. Their in depth analysis is a good read too.

I don't need to see a comparison video.

I've seen both in person and I think the ps3 version has the edge.

Protip: There is no worse fanboy then a pc fanboy.

[essensx]

BringerOfChaos wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Check Digital Foundry's video comparison:
www.eurogamer.net/videos/masseffect2-360-vs-ps3-faceoff

And here it shows clear screen tearing on the PS3, and a lot of framerate drops:
www.eurogamer.net/videos/mass-effect-2-demo-ps3-360-performance-analysis

They seem to have added some more light sources in the PS3 version, coming from...somewhere. Their in depth analysis is a good read too.

I don't need to see a comparison video.

I've seen both in person and I think the ps3 version has the edge.

Protip: There is no worse fanboy then a pc fanboy.

so you think your opinion are facts now?

[BringerOfChaos]

essensx wrote...

http://attackofthefa...3-xbox-360-779/

http://www.play-mag....hot-comparison/

http://www.bharatlov.../view/29299/53/

do you need more proof?

Why would you link me to screen with better lighting? Not to mention most of the images are take at different times and yet there still comparing them.

Again, my own eyes.

[essensx]

add a line that its just your opinion or your "own eyes" opinion lol

Modifié par essensx, 02 janvier 2011 - 12:37 .

[Shadesofsiknas]

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...
Meanwhile on the PC they'll have all the cool visuals, but a ****ty means to control it. Yes, I am talking about the mouse and keyboard.

****ty controls? Your a very funny guy.

You must love that aim assist on the console.

I'm not laughing.

Who said it had aim assist? 

 

Aim assist at its finest enjoy.

If you have played ME2 on a console you have played it with aim-assist. You say m&k are a ****ty means of controling the game. I say try playing Mass Effect 2 without aim-assist on a gamepad and you will see which control system is really ****ty. But you cant, the console version has aim-assist by default because....its the ****tier control.

[essensx]

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...
Meanwhile on the PC they'll have all the cool visuals, but a ****ty means to control it. Yes, I am talking about the mouse and keyboard.

****ty controls? Your a very funny guy.

You must love that aim assist on the console.

I'm not laughing.

Who said it had aim assist? 

 

Aim assist at its finest enjoy.

If you have played ME2 on a console you have played it with aim-assist. You say m&k are a ****ty means of controling the game. I say try playing Mass Effect 2 without aim-assist on a gamepad and you will see which control system is really ****ty. But you cant, the console version has aim-assist by default because....its the ****tier control.

well, it depends on the player. Some people who mastered the controller are more conftable with it then the mouse others can't get use to it. Remember when you first got on a PC? it wasn't easy at first using the mouse but you mastered it in time.

Modifié par essensx, 02 janvier 2011 - 12:45 .

[BringerOfChaos]

essensx wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Check Digital Foundry's video comparison:
www.eurogamer.net/videos/masseffect2-360-vs-ps3-faceoff

And here it shows clear screen tearing on the PS3, and a lot of framerate drops:
www.eurogamer.net/videos/mass-effect-2-demo-ps3-360-performance-analysis

They seem to have added some more light sources in the PS3 version, coming from...somewhere. Their in depth analysis is a good read too.

I don't need to see a comparison video.

I've seen both in person and I think the ps3 version has the edge.

Protip: There is no worse fanboy then a pc fanboy.

so you think your opinion are facts now?

No because they're opinions. Just like yours. 

I never implied my opinions were facts. All of you are retarded.
You start a thread with the intent of discussion, yet you expect everyone to agree with you. 

It doesn't work that way. I'm just a ps3 user being attacked by a bunch of mad Xbox fans because they lost one of their best exclusives. 

Not to mention the wrath you incur when you disagree with the SUPER OFFICIAL laws that the PC master race have put into effect. Hell hath no ****ing fury like butthurt PC ****.

If anybody got the idea that I think ME2 looks vastly superior--I don't. Do I think it looks slightly better? Yes.
But look who that is coming from, guys. All of you have been looking at ME2 for a while now but my eyes have just recently seen it. 

It's totally normal for  your first reaction to be that the xbox version looks better because face it: there's a little fanboy in all of us for what ever reason.  Not to mention you've been look at the game for a while now and your eyes are used to it looking one way. This is especially true since they are so similar graphically.

I'm looking at all of this with a fresh eye.

I'm just looking at the facts:
1.It's running on an updated engine.
2.They've had time to fix things.
3.It has an extra time behind it.
4.They have more space to work with.
5.It'll have more FPS.

With all that backing it up you can't expect to not see any improvement.
It'd be fare to compare the xbox version of ME3 to the Ps3 version because they will be released at the same time with no additional perks. If you say you know Bioware, you should also know they wouldn't waste all of that time/knowledge creating an inferior port.

All-in-all, the PC will always win graphically, even if they lose sometimes in other categories. 
Comparing PC graphics/gameplay to console graphics/gameplay is like comparing a trunk to a train. 

[Shadesofsiknas]

essensx wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...
Meanwhile on the PC they'll have all the cool visuals, but a ****ty means to control it. Yes, I am talking about the mouse and keyboard.

****ty controls? Your a very funny guy.

You must love that aim assist on the console.

I'm not laughing.

Who said it had aim assist? 

 

Aim assist at its finest enjoy.

If you have played ME2 on a console you have played it with aim-assist. You say m&k are a ****ty means of controling the game. I say try playing Mass Effect 2 without aim-assist on a gamepad and you will see which control system is really ****ty. But you cant, the console version has aim-assist by default because....its the ****tier control.

well, it depends on the player. Some people who mastered the controller are more conftable with it then the mouse others can't get use to it. Remember when you first got on a PC? it wasn't easy at first using the mouse but you mastered it in time.

Fair point. But the PC is far easier to master and much more precise in a game needing quick reaction shooting. Thats why the Devs put aim-assist on the console and leave it off the PC.

And the point I was making is the PC controls are far from ****ty as Bringer was trying to make out.

[BringerOfChaos]

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...
Meanwhile on the PC they'll have all the cool visuals, but a ****ty means to control it. Yes, I am talking about the mouse and keyboard.

****ty controls? Your a very funny guy.

You must love that aim assist on the console.

I'm not laughing.

Who said it had aim assist? 

 

Aim assist at its finest enjoy.

If you have played ME2 on a console you have played it with aim-assist. You say m&k are a ****ty means of controling the game. I say try playing Mass Effect 2 without aim-assist on a gamepad and you will see which control system is really ****ty. But you cant, the console version has aim-assist by default because....its the ****tier control.

Prove to me it has aim assist. 
If seen aim assist, aim snap, and all types of assisted aiming and I didn't notice it in ME2.

Modifié par BringerOfChaos, 02 janvier 2011 - 12:58 .

[BringerOfChaos]

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

essensx wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...

Shadesofsiknas wrote...

BringerOfChaos wrote...
Meanwhile on the PC they'll have all the cool visuals, but a ****ty means to control it. Yes, I am talking about the mouse and keyboard.

****ty controls? Your a very funny guy.

You must love that aim assist on the console.

I'm not laughing.

Who said it had aim assist? 

 

Aim assist at its finest enjoy.

If you have played ME2 on a console you have played it with aim-assist. You say m&k are a ****ty means of controling the game. I say try playing Mass Effect 2 without aim-assist on a gamepad and you will see which control system is really ****ty. But you cant, the console version has aim-assist by default because....its the ****tier control.

well, it depends on the player. Some people who mastered the controller are more conftable with it then the mouse others can't get use to it. Remember when you first got on a PC? it wasn't easy at first using the mouse but you mastered it in time.

Fair point. But the PC is far easier to master and much more precise in a game needing quick reaction shooting. Thats why the Devs put aim-assist on the console and leave it off the PC.

And the point I was making is the PC controls are far from ****ty as Bringer was trying to make out.

They don't work for me. So I find them ****ty. 

Just as you find controller ****ty. I don't see why you are so mad. I've played on both a PC and console and I prefer the controller.

If the mouse wasn't bad enough the keyboard is a cluster**** of buttons. Controllers are more streamlined to me. 
Actually, aim-assist throw off my aim.