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[Bryy_Miller]

This is , what, your 18th thread on the topic?

[Ashaman X]

NG+ wasn't really an issue for me in DAO, as I had pretty much finished every quest I could get my hands on. Since my character is never going to be evil, restarting it with her and then being evil wouldn't have worked for me. The only benefit I felt it could have been is to start a new game with the exact same looking character as a previous game. Designing a character in the CC is hard and I've never been able to replicate my main character exactly.

[Ensgnblack]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

This is , what, your 18th thread on the topic?

At least the second if my memory serves me.

[upsettingshorts]

It seems like a simple question though, and unlike most issues the opposition to it is vague at most.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 02 janvier 2011 - 09:09 .

[Ensgnblack]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It seems like a simple question though, and unlike most issues the opposition to it is vague at most.

1. Well in DAO max level was 25 and you cold  get to  about 23ish without any exploits.  Say you only get to 18 though; on your NG+ playthrough you  get another 7 levels and hit max level around, what?  The first or second army quest perhaps? 

What happens for the rest of the game?  Max level restricts NG+ almost completely in DAO (were it to exist).  If DA2 is similar, the max level of 50 means we will get to somewhere  in the 40s if we do absolutely everything.  Once again when we start over, we stop leveling after a few hours.  Playingwithout leveling doesnt seem amusing.

Am I reading NG+ wrong, or is  that an accurate interpretation of how it would go in DA?


2. Another thought: Would BW not need to go back and rebalance for the second playthrough?  I know DAO scales to level, but now Ostagar needs to not only accomodate levels 3-5 or whateever, but also 18+?  That seems to  warrant additional balancing, unless the initial scaling in place already would accomodate for this.

[upsettingshorts]

Ensgnblack wrote...

Playingwithout leveling doesnt seem amusing.

If you don't see how it would be fun, then NG+ really isn't for you?  But that's why it's optional.

Ensgnblack wrote...

2. Another thought: Would BW not need to go back and rebalance for the second playthrough? 

Only if the people asking for NG+ care deeply about balance, and I haven't seen anyone advocating for it who do.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 02 janvier 2011 - 09:18 .

[crimzontearz]

actually it' my...uhm.....4th

[thomaswheeler94]

Ashaman X, aye, same here... Never been able to replicate my character exactly... That's why I'd like Bioware to implement some sort of feature where each custom-made character is then added to the pre-set models for future use... Surely that feature wouldn't be too difficult to implement (if not too late by now).



I'm sure there'd be no opposition to that (sadists, perhaps, but I'm sure there are no sadists on these boards, right?).

[Dave of Canada]

The reason I would've liked New Game+ on Origins was because by the time you got to the higher level with the shiny new gear, you'd find yourself enjoying it very briefly. You'd eventually be thrown into camp and told "Enjoy." with nothing to do.



New game+ would make it so you can keep on going, fighting the scaled up enemies in your shiny new equipment and abilities. Though I can see some problems from the companion side of things where they'd be pre-built from auto-leveling, you still enjoyed what you gathered through an entire playthrough.



Dragon Age 2, if I remember reading correctly, is getting rid of the auto-leveling companions and allow you to distribute your stats as you recruit them. This would make it so a high level character won't receive an inferior party member, it lets you customize and removes one of the flaws of NG+ that Origins had.

[crimzontearz]

totally agree with Dave



utterly....and if I was a pc player and I DID have a concole command options I'd not even be asking about NG+ but as it is I am a console player so.....

[crimzontearz]

scyphozoa wrote...

because ME2 got its NG+ added late in development and because of a 100+ page fan request thread, there is a precedent to continue posting about it for DA2.

-high fives-


not to mention that the devs have been ridiculously evasive about it

[slimgrin]

scyphozoa wrote...

because ME2 got its NG+ added late in development and because of a 100+ page fan request thread, there is a precedent to continue posting about it for DA2.

I'm still not sure they didn't include ng+ in ME2 solely for the mineral bonuses. Maybe late in development they realized what a bore it is.

[crimzontearz]

slimgrin wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

because ME2 got its NG+ added late in development and because of a 100+ page fan request thread, there is a precedent to continue posting about it for DA2.

I'm still not sure they didn't include ng+ in ME2 solely for the mineral bonuses. Maybe late in development they realized what a bore it is.

doubtful.....but possible.

still, the silence is.....odd to say the least

[crimzontearz]

I was thinking that scyphozoa.....I just hope you are right

[slimgrin]

crimzontearz wrote...

I was thinking that scyphozoa.....I just hope you are right

Yeah, I didn't think of that. Maybe the silence up to this point is a good thing.

[crimzontearz]

it is....but it is nerve wracking

[SufferingTormentDarkness]

PROTIP: consoles are for casual baddies

[Osena109]

crimzontearz wrote...

 two months till release....less until going gold





can we know whether NG+ is in or not?





Seriously it's not like asking to reveal pivotal plot points....... just a metagaming feature.





I mean even for DAO it was revealed waaaaaay early that it was not going to be in.





please?

yes id like to know this as well  cos the freach said the max level cap was  level 50  and in DAO it was hard leveling just to 20  so there must  be NG-+  

[Matchy Pointy]

Osena109 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

 two months till release....less until going gold





can we know whether NG+ is in or not?





Seriously it's not like asking to reveal pivotal plot points....... just a metagaming feature.





I mean even for DAO it was revealed waaaaaay early that it was not going to be in.





please?

yes id like to know this as well  cos the freach said the max level cap was  level 50  and in DAO it was hard leveling just to 20  so there must  be NG-+  

DAO != DA2, just becasue it was hard (well, depending on how much you do sidequests) to reach 20 there, it don't mean you gain levels at the same rate in DA2.

[BTCentral]

Just found this while listening to an interview and sorry, looks like you are going to be disappointed.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9355418 - Interview with David Gaider, lead writer for DA2.

Skip to 19:10. "Will there be play after the end? No. It's not going to happen."

Modifié par BTCentral, 03 janvier 2011 - 11:08 .

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

BTCentral wrote...

Just found this while listening to an interview and sorry, looks like you are going to be disappointed.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9355418 - Interview with David Gaider, lead writer for DA2.

Skip to 19:10. "Will there be play after the end? No. It's not going to happen."

I don't think that has anything to do with NG+. NG+ is restarting the same charactewr from the beginning, not playing after the end.

[BTCentral]

Shinian2 wrote...

I don't think that has anything to do with NG+. NG+ is restarting the same charactewr from the beginning, not playing after the end.

NG+ isn't play after the end?

Complete game -> import completed character into new game, with all your items, stats, etc. = play after the end (at least, in my opinion).

It may of course be possible that I misunderstood the context, and David would not include NG+ in that context, but personally I would have thought that it did.

Modifié par BTCentral, 03 janvier 2011 - 02:04 .

[crimzontearz]

BTCentral wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...




I don't think that has anything to do with NG+. NG+ is restarting the same charactewr from the beginning, not playing after the end.

NG+ isn't play after the end?




Complete game -> import completed character into new game, with all your items, stats, etc. = play after the end (at least, in my opinion).




It may of course be possible that I misunderstood the context, and David would not include NG+ in that context, but personally I would have thought that it did.

yes you are wrong for 2 reasons




Bioware makes a distinction between post end play and NG+. Look at ME1, the devs lamented the lack of post credits play in that game BUT they had NG+ in it.




secondly, not a month ago a Gaider (and Laidlaw) personally told me he could not comment on NG+ at the time. If he meant "no NG+" with that statement in the podcast he would have simply said no to me a month ago and this thread would have been locked by Chris








come on devs don't make me beg