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[slimgrin]

crimzontearz wrote...
come on devs don't make me beg

I think that's been made official, lol.

[crimzontearz]

slimgrin wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
come on devs don't make me beg

I think that's been made official, lol.

sorry I'm tired...what do you mean?

oh and.....shameless bump since a ton of devs are around and someone might take pity on me

[druplesnubb]

This seems like the most pointless waste of time, money and effort ever (except the voiced protagonist of course). Seriously: "you can now play the game with the character you've already completed the entire game with but with some extra features we deliberately withheld from you the first time", uhhm...okay...

Modifié par druplesnubb, 04 janvier 2011 - 08:24 .

[BTCentral]

crimzontearz wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
come on devs don't make me beg

I think that's been made official, lol.

sorry I'm tired...what do you mean?

I'm 99% sure slimgrin was implying that you are already begging.

Modifié par BTCentral, 04 janvier 2011 - 08:31 .

[crimzontearz]

druplesnubb wrote...
This seems like the most pointless waste of time, money and effort ever (except the voiced protagonist of course). Seriously: "you can now play the game with the character you've already completed the entire game with but with some extra features we deliberately withheld from you the first time", uhhm...okay...

to many other tho it is not pointless

indeed, it was not-pointless enough that it was re-added into ME2 at the end of the developing cycle because enough fans asked for it.

does that put things into perspective?


oh and thanks you BT...I'm tired

[druplesnubb]

Why did they ask for it? What's the point?

[crimzontearz]

druplesnubb wrote...




Why did they ask for it? What's the point?

because they like it, because they dislike starting from zero each time, because they get attached to some of their characters, because they think one grind playthrough is enough and now they want to focus on permutations




there is no point in me trying to make it appeal to you, it would be like explaining color to a creature without eyes. Suffice to say a LOT of people want it

[crimzontearz]

shameless bump because Gaider and Laidlaw seem to be lurking

[magicwins]

I believe it hurts roleplaying but enhances gameplay. It was fine for ME2 because that was what it was going for anyway. I hope that's not what DA2 is going for. And I don't know whether I'd sacrifice the former for the latter.



But yes, devs, throw the poor guy a bone, wouldja?

[Amyntas]

druplesnubb wrote...

Why did they ask for it? What's the point?

Games with RPG elements always have a slow start as far as gameplay is concerned. Your character knows maybe 1 or 2 abilities, and that's just very boring if you've done it before.

Modifié par Amyntas, 06 janvier 2011 - 04:42 .

[AngelicMachinery]

magicwins wrote...

I believe it hurts roleplaying but enhances gameplay. It was fine for ME2 because that was what it was going for anyway. I hope that's not what DA2 is going for. And I don't know whether I'd sacrifice the former for the latter.

But yes, devs, throw the poor guy a bone, wouldja?

How would it hurt roleplaying?  Being level 50 or what have you will make you a wrecking ball throughout the game,  but,  I don't see how that strips away the character's ability to make choices.  By a similiar vein I would suggest playing the game at all a second time hurts roleplaying because you understand the consquences of choices that you've already made.

[crimzontearz]

what angelic said



also since it is optional and you feel it hurts YOUR roleplay experince then simply do not use the NG+ feature.



Everyone wins

[Maria Caliban]

I disagree that optional content can be half-[donkey] just because it's optional. If it's in the game, I expect it to have some degree of quality. That said....

Dear developers,

crimzon is a nice guy. He's followed BioWare for years and is generally positive and a pleasure to have around. He has this thing about NG+. I don't understand it myself, but fans are not required to be moderate in their likes.

He's already pre-ordered the game and he's never said that if NG+ isn't in it that it will stink, that the devs must be evil/lazy/greedy, or that he'd cancel his order. He just really, really, really wants to know.

If you could find it in your heart and scheduale to possibly release any information about this feature - whether it be 'yes,' 'no,' or 'please be patient as we haven't decided' - I am sure he'd be very appreciative.

Thank you,
Maria

PS: Image of puppy dog to weaken your resolve.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 06 janvier 2011 - 05:06 .

[nightcobra]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I disagree that optional content can be half-[donkey] just because it's optional. If it's in the game, I expect it to have some degree of quality. That said....

Dear developers,

crimzon is a nice guy. He's followed BioWare for years and is generally positive and a pleasure to have around. He has this thing about NG+. I don't understand it myself, but fans are not required to be moderate in their likes.

He's already pre-ordered the game and he's never said that if NG+ isn't in it that it will stink, that the devs must be evil/lazy/greedy, or that he'd cancel his order. He just really, really, really wants to know.

If you could find it in your heart and scheduale to possibly release any information about this feature - whether it be 'yes,' 'no,' or 'please be patient as we haven't decided' - I am sure he'd be very appreciative.

Thank you,
Maria

PS: Image of puppy dog to weaken your resolve.

here's another one for good measure

[David Gaider]

crimzontearz wrote...
shameless bump because Gaider and Laidlaw seem to be lurking

Hey, don't look at me. It's possible that I could care less about this feature than I already do, but I find that hard to believe.

[BTCentral]

David Gaider wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
shameless bump because Gaider and Laidlaw seem to be lurking

Hey, don't look at me. It's possible that I could care less about this feature than I already do, but I find that hard to believe.

Thanks for the laugh this forum is always good for them, especially when the devs come along.

---

I mean err, so, you got an answer of some sort crimzon, happy now?

Modifié par BTCentral, 06 janvier 2011 - 05:31 .

[crimzontearz]

David Gaider wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
shameless bump because Gaider and Laidlaw seem to be lurking

Hey, don't look at me. It's possible that I could care less about this feature than I already do, but I find that hard to believe.

it's ok......that's not going to dampen my spirit 

MAria's post made me feel Wuvd 

[DaySeeker]

I like NG+ for a variety of reasons. One, the tutoring section of games always sucks- it's way too long and if you've played the first game you have some idea how everything works, if we are not given the opportunity to blow through the tutorial I would like to have a chance to play with some of my new abilities. I don't need baby steps.



Two, as has been stated, I have spent more hours than I am comfortable to admitting playing the original, I have created a character mined and stripped the first game world of all it has to offer, and it's nice to have some recognition of that. Reward me; I deserve it. I am connected to my character that I am asked to give up in the second game, ease the blow with some swag or some warden momento. And, when I play through the game again I like using my first character and not having my previous efforts erased.



Three, to the ruining gameplay argument, how? The enemies in the first pretty much leveled up with me, so I just have more ways to play the game.

[SirOccam]

LOL, classic Gaider.

Modifié par SirOccam, 06 janvier 2011 - 06:03 .

[goofyomnivore]

I like NG+, it adds replay value to my experience, but it doesn't contribute anything to the game. Other than replay value that varys between many degrees, so if we get it I'll be giddy, but if we don't I completly understand why.

[crimzontearz]

come on Gaider.....listen to Maria!



and aside from the warm and fuzzy feelings Maria gave me.... you know what kinda gets me is, why the silence?



I mean other purely metagaming features are usually revealed or answered about rather freely once permission is given by marketing and branding. And I understand why some of those features need to remain kind of a secret.



so at this point either



A: the devs do not want to talk about it not even to say " we are working on it but we do not know if it will make the cut". But is this is the case then.... "why"? I doubt they just want to be mean and NG+ is no story spoiling feature.



OR



B: Marketing and Branding flat out said "no, do not say anything about it". But again.....why?

[David Gaider]

crimzontearz wrote...

come on Gaider.....listen to Maria!

and aside from the warm and fuzzy feelings Maria gave me.... you know what kinda gets me is, why the silence?

I started to ask Mike about this, but lost interest half-way through the question.

[nightcobra]

David Gaider wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

come on Gaider.....listen to Maria!

and aside from the warm and fuzzy feelings Maria gave me.... you know what kinda gets me is, why the silence?

I started to ask Mike about this, but lost interest half-way through the question.

 you're having fun with this aren't you?

and so diligent too, already preparing the next batch of a fan's tears

[_Aine_]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

come on Gaider.....listen to Maria!

and aside from the warm and fuzzy feelings Maria gave me.... you know what kinda gets me is, why the silence?

I started to ask Mike about this, but lost interest half-way through the question.

 you're having fun with this aren't you?

and so diligent too, already preparing the next batch of a fan's tears

fan's tears keep the skin supple. 
So I hear. 

[crimzontearz]

David Gaider wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

come on Gaider.....listen to Maria!

and aside from the warm and fuzzy feelings Maria gave me.... you know what kinda gets me is, why the silence?

I started to ask Mike about this, but lost interest half-way through the question.

David: So Mike why exactly aren't we telling CrimzonTearz aboutoooooooh look the next batch of bottled fans' tears arrived"
Mike: Yep...what were you about to ask?
David: I don't care pass me my bones chalice -evil laughter-