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[Lord Baelish]

My current computer is rubbish for gaming because I wasn't that interested in gaming when I got it. But now I really want to play DA:O on my PC instead of PS3, so I'm looking to buy a new, more powerful computer. I have found a decent-looking one (bearing in mind I really am not a technical wizard) but I was wondering if someone could tell me if the specs are good for this game?

Processor: Quad-Core Intel Core i7-870
RAM: 4GB
Hard Drive: 1TB
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 5450

I have to admit I have no idea which graphics cards are better than any of the others. Are the Processor and card in this computer good enough to play this game at a high level?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

[Sleepee]

The i7-870 exceeds recommendations in most modern games today. It's pretty much top of the line for your platform. the only thing that's holding you back is that graphics card. The 5450 is pretty much, the lowest of the low on AMD's side. Considering that, it will struggle, especially when you turn up the graphics settings and as you climb to higher resolutions. If you really want to enjoy your experience on high settings, your best bet would be to pick an ATI 5770, or an Nvidia GTS 450. They're relatively cheap, and should run on most low-end power supplies. I have no idea what your PSU is rated for, so I can't say for sure. Higher spec'd models, like an ATI 6850 or a GTX 460, would of course offer even better performance.

Modifié par Sleepee, 02 janvier 2011 - 04:23 .

[Gorath Alpha]

No, that video graphics card is only intended for business, and would have to be set to very low resolution, very low image quality, and it still might not be able to perform adequately to suit you (wouldn't suit me). You want a minimum of an HD 5770 for higher quality graphics, or perhaps an HD 6870.

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

(Notice the "700" and "800" in those, which represents the high spot of Medium in one case, and the low spot in the High End for the other.) 

P. S.  Upgrading from a low-power HD 5450 to either of those two Radeons named above would also require a larger and better power supply than the HD 5450 needs.  For more explanation of the graphics rankings, there is a reference article that I've bumped to the top for you: 

http://social.biowar...58/index/128343

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 02 janvier 2011 - 06:26 .

[n8mahr81]

Mh.. I run DA on a AMD Athlon 64 x2 4600+, 2 GB RAM and a HD4850 on medium to high settings quite fine..

But your 5450 is really a slow one, thus it is considered a low noise, low power consumption office card. According to several rankings I found, it is even slower than my old nvidia 7900gt I bought about 5 years ago?!

Every card around 60€ should run middle - high settings fine, while every card around 100€ should run highest settings. The HD5770 that sleepee mentioned is worth a look.

[Moondoggie]

The HD5770 had a price drop recently and for a card that's a good gaming card with DX11 support its well worth the price.

[Angband21]

n8mahr81 wrote...

Mh.. I run DA on a AMD Athlon 64 x2 4600+, 2 GB RAM and a HD4850 on medium to high settings quite fine..
But your 5450 is really a slow one, thus it is considered a low noise, low power consumption office card. According to several rankings I found, it is even slower than my old nvidia 7900gt I bought about 5 years ago?!
Every card around 60€ should run middle - high settings fine, while every card around 100€ should run highest settings. The HD5770 that sleepee mentioned is worth a look.

I am running a older system and apart from the odd CTD which a lot of people seem to have problems with(mine are after about 3-4 hours of gaming with constant alt-tabbing to check email and  updating my website.

my specs:


 Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100618-1621)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: IBM
       System Model: 8212W33
               BIOS: Phoenix FirstBios™ Desktop Pro Version 2.0 for ThinkCentre.
          Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.5GHz
             Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 2044MB RAM
          Page File: 1289MB used, 2800MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode
  
  Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series       
       Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
          Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x954F)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
         Device Key: Enum\\PCI\\VEN_1002&DEV_954F&SUBSYS_16181462&REV_00
     Display Memory: 1273 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 506 MB
      Shared Memory: 766 MB
       Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: COMPAQ 7550
         Monitor Id: CPQ1446
        Native Mode: 1024 x 768(p) (84.997Hz)
        Output Type: HD15
        Driver Name: aticfx32.dll,aticfx32.dll,atiumdag.dll,atidxx32.dll,atiumdva.cap
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1059 (English)
     Driver Version: 8.801.0.0
        DDI Version: 10.1
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 11/25/2010 21:58:12, 550400 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: No
    WHQL Date Stamp: None
  Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D60F-11CF-F173-1236BEC2C535}
          Vendor ID: 0x1002
          Device ID: 0x954F
          SubSys ID: 0x16181462
        Revision ID: 0x0000
 Driver Strong Name: oem12.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTx86.6.1:ati2mtag_R7X:8.801.0.0:pci\\ven_1002&dev_954f
     Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
        Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C

[Gorath Alpha]

Angband21 wrote...

I am running a older system and apart from the odd CTD which a lot of people seem to have problems with (mine are after about 3-4 hours of gaming with constant alt-tabbing to check email and  updating my website.

my specs:

 Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100618-1621)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: IBM
       System Model: 8212W33
               BIOS: Phoenix FirstBios™ Desktop Pro Version 2.0 for ThinkCentre.
          Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.5GHz
             Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 2044MB RAM
          Page File: 1289MB used, 2800MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\\\\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode
  
  Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series       
       Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
          Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x954F)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
         Device Key: Enum\\\\PCI\\\\VEN_1002&DEV_954F&SUBSYS_16181462&REV_00
     Display Memory: 1273 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 506 MB

Since your system is at or below minimum in every regard, you would have been far better advised to retain WindowsXP instead of moving to Windows 7.  I do want to congratulate you for one refreshingly well-done aspect of your Windows setup.  Yours is the first system whose Pagefile management has been decent that I have seen in weeks and weeks. 

Instead of the typical 2 - 3 GBs of background programs and services, you have your PC very close to the recommended single GB (my own Windows 7 Page File "used" is under 800 MBs).

Be that as it may, you would probably be amazed with the improvement between your low quality business graphics card and the lowest of the Mainline Gaming cards.  Compared to prior years' business quality cards like the Radeon 9600 and the Radeon X1300, the recent ones have really been very bad, only very slightly better than an onboard Chipset video chip like the HD 4200 (it should be noted that although the 9600 was newer than the 9500, it was much slower, and if the naming then had really been meant to indicate performance, it would have been named a 9400). 

[Angband21]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Angband21 wrote...

I am running a older system and apart from the odd CTD which a lot of people seem to have problems with (mine are after about 3-4 hours of gaming with constant alt-tabbing to check email and  updating my website.

my specs:

 Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100618-1621)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: IBM
       System Model: 8212W33
               BIOS: Phoenix FirstBios™ Desktop Pro Version 2.0 for ThinkCentre.
          Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.5GHz
             Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 2044MB RAM
          Page File: 1289MB used, 2800MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\\\\\\\\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode
  
  Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series       
       Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
          Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x954F)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
         Device Key: Enum\\\\\\\\PCI\\\\\\\\VEN_1002&DEV_954F&SUBSYS_16181462&REV_00
     Display Memory: 1273 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 506 MB

Since your system is at or below minimum in every regard, you would have been far better advised to retain WindowsXP instead of moving to Windows 7.  I do want to congratulate you for one refreshingly well-done aspect of your Windows setup.  Yours is the first system whose Pagefile management has been decent that I have seen in weeks and weeks. 

Instead of the typical 2 - 3 GBs of background programs and services, you have your PC very close to the recommended single GB (my own Windows 7 Page File "used" is under 800 MBs).

Be that as it may, you would probably be amazed with the improvement between your low quality business graphics card and the lowest of the Mainline Gaming cards.  Compared to prior years' business quality cards like the Radeon 9600 and the Radeon X1300, the recent ones have really been very bad, only very slightly better than an onboard Chipset video chip like the HD 4200 (it should be noted that although the 9600 was newer than the 9500, it was much slower, and if the naming then had really been meant to indicate performance, it would have been named a 9400). 

The Video card was one of the few Half cards that I could find that came close to the specs for the game.
A full size card won't fit in the case of this computer. Unless I cut a good inch of the card(not recommended)
But the game runs, the only real lag is during major battles such as the Royal Palace and other big fights like that. Or if the spellcasting is overdone.

I seem to have little problem elsewhere. Of course, I do dial down the Video settings in the Options

1024x768 4:3  Full Screen
Graphics Detail: High
Anti-Aliasing: 2x
Texture Detail: High
Disabled Frame Buffering

Not the greatest graphics setup but a good compromise between what the machine can handle while still looking decent. Since my cat refuses to let me get a large flat screen, I am using a CRT 19'' monitor, so the resolution isn't a big issue.

[Gorath Alpha]

"Low Profile" cards have been available in almost every range other than the very highest, but the preferred route is to trash the silly skinny case anyway; they don't cool well enough, they are more likely to fall over, unless you choose to lay it sideways in the first place, and other liabilities as well. There are usable, although not necessarily fancy looking, full size cases for as little as $25, shipped; visit Newegg.

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

Incidentally, since the skinny cases do not ventilate at all well, if you are not allowed to replace the entire case, just accidentally damage the access panel for the left side so badly it won't go back on (trip over it and bend it all to hell & gone), then it won't make any difference how tall the video card is. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 05 janvier 2011 - 06:44 .

[Capt_Spade]

If you are strapped for cash you can go for an older card that is more powerful than your current GPU. I currently have an HD 4670 1GB version and run DAO all on high settings. Depending on where you get one, you can pick one up for around 70-90 USD I believe.

[Angband21]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

"Low Profile" cards have been available in almost every range other than the very highest, but the preferred route is to trash the silly skinny case anyway; they don't cool well enough, they are more likely to fall over, unless you choose to lay it sideways in the first place, and other liabilities as well. There are usable, although not necessarily fancy looking, full size cases for as little as $25, shipped; visit Newegg.

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

Incidentally, since the skinny cases do not ventilate at all well, if you are not allowed to replace the entire case, just accidentally damage the access panel for the left side so badly it won't go back on (trip over it and bend it all to hell & gone), then it won't make any difference how tall the video card is. 

This is a desktop model with the top hinged. It belongs to the club I manage as a volunteer, and is primarily used for club business ... mainly DTP and bookkeeping. I doubt they would appreciate me mangling/modifying the case. I live with the limitations and play within them. If I don't push the graphics, it plays ok. On my fixed income, I don't have a lot of "extra" funds to go out and buy a gaming computer.

[Angband21]

Capt_Spade wrote...

If you are strapped for cash you can go for an older card that is more powerful than your current GPU. I currently have an HD 4670 1GB version and run DAO all on high settings. Depending on where you get one, you can pick one up for around 70-90 USD I believe.

Thanks, I'll look into that. When I was given this computer, it had only the onboard graphics which wouldn't barely run the DTP software.