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[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Giggles_Manically wrote...


That is one way certainly to put the Banns in their place.

When I enter the Landsmeet hall and see all those Banns and Arls standing around, fully armed, looking for a reason to fight, willing to put the fate of their country in an unknown stranger because he/she will beat the crap out of their finest general in a brawl, I think that Avernus will have a very Merry Christmas when I send him so many ilustrious test subjects for hsi experiments...

[Giggles_Manically]

We could also send him the assembly as well.

[Elhanan]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I once set off a Storm of the Century in there.

This; so very refreshing to vent... er, as an Evil option, of course!

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Yeah. And picking Bhelen helps there, since you will suddenly have alot of jobless "volunteers."



it's a shame Avernus disappears after you finish WK. I'd much rather be able to talk to him than Levi and his boring brother. Plus, it would be nice to get any updates on his "research".



Warden's Keep could serve as the new "Area 51" for Ferelden, where you could send people for experiments without any government body oversight. And weird things happen on a regular basis.



it would be the first time the Bannorn have actually been given the chance to do something useful, for a change.

[Zjarcal]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I can't bring myself to do it. I consider using force when persuasion was possible as a personal failure.
"I do not use my sword when my whip suffices. And I do not use my whip when my tongue suffices" - Mu'awiyah.

Best...  quote... ever.

I mean, it is so full of win my head is about to explode. 

[KnightofPhoenix]

Zjarcal wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I can't bring myself to do it. I consider using force when persuasion was possible as a personal failure.
"I do not use my sword when my whip suffices. And I do not use my whip when my tongue suffices" - Mu'awiyah.

Best...  quote... ever.

I mean, it is so full of win my head is about to explode. 

Yea, I think Mu'awiyah is going to want to kill me now

[Ryzaki]

Really though my issue with the landsmeet is that duel. If I'm going to have to fight the man anyways I might as well do it with people at my back.

[Addai]

It's just a game. And a punk kid isn't going to always be the best diplomat. The rumble is fun.

[Ryzaki]

Yeah still at least if I win the landsmeet I shouldn't have to duel Loghain. This is a supposed to be a trial after all.Proving the crimes he committed should result in an arrest and hanging not him being able to challenge me and if he wins go on unapposed.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 janvier 2011 - 07:45 .

[Zjarcal]

Ryzaki wrote...

Yeah still at least if I win the landsmeet I shouldn't have to duel Loghain. This is a supposed to be a trial after all.Proving the crimes he committed should result in an arrest and hanging not him being able to challenge me and if he wins go on unapposed.

I agree. If you win the vote, shouldn't that give you the authority to decide his fate? I mean, Loghain doesn't force a confrontation (unlike Eamon), so why couldn't you just decide his fate right there?

[Addai]

Zjarcal wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Yeah still at least if I win the landsmeet I shouldn't have to duel Loghain. This is a supposed to be a trial after all.Proving the crimes he committed should result in an arrest and hanging not him being able to challenge me and if he wins go on unapposed.

I agree. If you win the vote, shouldn't that give you the authority to decide his fate? I mean, Loghain doesn't force a confrontation (unlike Eamon), so why couldn't you just decide his fate right there?

Since your only options are duel or free-for-all, I take that to mean Loghain isn't going to surrender without a fight, either.  Basically, the Landsmeet in this case is a farce.  Everyone is armed to the teeth and it's just who comes out as top dog.

[Zjarcal]

That would make sense, that the lack of an alternative option means that Loghain won't give in without a fight. Which as you mention, proves that the Landsmeet is a farce.

[testing123]

 I know everyone has a good time pointing out the logical inaccuracies of the Landsmeet and its outcomes, but god damn do I love that part of the game.  I think it's a superb climax.

[XX55XX]

I always brawl because it weakens Loghain for the duel.

[diggerthedwarf]

Depends what my character is like. My human noble wardens never do. My rash Dwarven Noble, who didn't care much for human politics, just thought 'Screw this, let's settle this the good old fashioned way'.

[Zjarcal]

jvee wrote...

 I know everyone has a good time pointing out the logical inaccuracies of the Landsmeet and its outcomes, but god damn do I love that part of the game.  I think it's a superb climax.

Same here. From a writing and logical perspective it's a VERY flawed section of the game, but it's a highly climatic moment, probably my favorite moment in the whole game to be honest.

I always get goose bumps when entering the main chamber. I really do.

XX55XX wrote...

I always brawl because it weakens Loghain for the duel. 

Eh, you mean from an RP perspective? Because from a gameplay perspective, it's the same thing.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 04 janvier 2011 - 01:03 .

[errant_knight]

I've only had the brawl once, when my warden argued poorly and lost. In those circumstances, it seemed like just what would happen, because there was no way they were going to stand there and be dragged away for execution. I can't see doing it under other circumstances, though, not when you have everyone's support.

[sylvanaerie]

I always do it because it's fun, whether I win or lose. Few fights in the game are as much fun for me for pure chaos free for all factor. Perhaps my no nonsense warrior Cousland wouldn't, but my hell raiser rogue Cousland certainly would. I've finally figured out how to tell Anora, stick it, and STILL win the Landsmeet even if Vaughan's one little vote isn't present, so I don't even need to lose to trigger it.
I figure, aside from Valora, none of my PCs are much of a diplomat anyway and there's a load of payback coming Loghain's way. I guess I wouldn't be much of a diplomat anyway, it's not in me to smile in someone's face and converse 'politely' after they have spent the past year trying to kill me. I'd be itchin' for some payback.
So I win the Landsmeet, tell Loghain, who's spoiling for a fight anyway, to "Bring it!". Then when I tenderize him I get to insult his honor, duel him, kill him, then call his daughter a ruthless **** afterward.
Ahhh good times...The last time I played, I focused on Loghain's guards instead of him, just keeping my group healed, curious what would happen and how I was able to trigger Alfstanna the previous game. I got to see first Eamon, then Alfstanna and her WS archers, and just before Loghain finally went down, Arl Bryland popped up. I couldn't see his men because the fight ended immediately after he spawned so I am not sure what he brings to the free for all, but it was totally WICKED seeing these guys down there fighting with my group!
Just watching Alfstanna being Bamftastic makes it worthwhile!

The rest of the game is anti-climatic in comparison.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 05 janvier 2011 - 11:03 .

[sevalaricgirl]

I've only brawled once.  I always duel and keeping with the story, I don't make Alistair king if I am not HN because then I can't marry him legitimately. I'd never marry him to Anora. Even if my character wasn't in love with him, I wouldn't do that to him. Also, there is really no reason Anora can't stay queen once her meddling father is out of the way. Sh's a good queen. Tell me one political leader that hasn't done something underhanded to get into office or stay in office and I'll give him a medal plus I don't think that blood has anything to do with ruling a kingdom or else I'd never put Harromount (sp) on the throne but instead I'd put that killing maniac Bhelem on the throne.

Modifié par sevalaricgirl, 05 janvier 2011 - 12:06 .

[Sarah1281]

plus I don't think that blood has anything to do with ruling a kingdom or else I'd never put Harromount (sp) on the throne but instead I'd put that killing maniac Bhelem on the throne.

Yes, Harrowmont's policy of screwing over the casteless so badly the other castes actually complain as well as allowing Branka to start a war with Ferelden if he has the Anvil and doing absolutely nothing but increasing isolation is infinitely better than the reforms Bhelen killed a few people to get the chance to make.

[Giggles_Manically]

Sarah1281 wrote...

plus I don't think that blood has anything to do with ruling a kingdom or else I'd never put Harromount (sp) on the throne but instead I'd put that killing maniac Bhelem on the throne.

Yes, Harrowmont's policy of screwing over the casteless so badly the other castes actually complain as well as allowing Branka to start a war with Ferelden if he has the Anvil and doing absolutely nothing but increasing isolation is infinitely better than the reforms Bhelen killed a few people to get the chance to make.

I sense great sarcasm in this one.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I do the brawl just for the fun of it and to pick everyone's pocket while I'm beating the snot out of everyone. If it wasn't for the Grand Cleric I'd kill Loghain then and there. Sometimes it comes down to the fact if I'm in the mood to do the brawl.

I also win the Landsmeet everytime.  I just like to do the brawl for the fun of it. 

I created a poll for this awhile back if anyone is interested in answering the poll.

http://social.biowar...163/polls/7699/

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 07 janvier 2011 - 06:45 .

[testing123]

Sarah1281 wrote...
Yes, Harrowmont's policy of screwing over the casteless so badly the other castes actually complain as well as allowing Branka to start a war with Ferelden if he has the Anvil and doing absolutely nothing but increasing isolation is infinitely better than the reforms Bhelen killed a few people to get the chance to make.

Restrain your rage to the thread that's asking for it =P