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Probably a futile request, but no more Claudia Black please!


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Lee337

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For me I knew Joker was Seth Green but and Sheen was ol' TIM, and Claudia was Morrigan but as the main characters I got past it very quickly. Wierdly though it did break immersion a little for me when I heard Claudia as Xen and does everytime I play it.

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First off: I like Claudia Black's Voice Acting, same as the other famous people in BioWare's Games.

The thing is that almost anyone from the VA Cast has experience as a voice actor, simply because most movies today are dubbed over in post-production as noise during filming sometimes makes their voices completely inaudible.
So, most of them are "trained professionals" so to speak, and it shows.
I have heard what unprofessional VA's can do to a game, particularly when the spoken Language is NOT the native one of the person speaking.

I guess it's all a matter of taste though.

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I see where the OP is coming from. I get sick ad tired of hearing the same VO.



Variety is the spice of life folks.

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BiancoAngelo7

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Yeah Joker and TIM didn't bother me as much because even though they are quite famous, I'm not used to listening to them in video games, especially Martin Sheen. And Joker's va was obvious from the start, but necessary to accomplish Joker's character.



Something that was completely unnecessary for Black's representation of Xen. The main thing that doesn't make sense to me, even though I didn't realize it when I wrote my OP is that since Black did such awesome voices for other characters like the bartender on Illium, I would have expected her to do an unrecognizable voice for Xen. Playing DAO and then playing ME2 in such a short time and immediately recognizing her voice because there was no inflection work on her part for Xen and Morrigan just completely makes me go "oh look Space Morrigan"

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Forsythia wrote...

Voiceactors should at least try to use a different voice in different games. Sometimes they are {i]too[/i] recognizable. Like the obvious Nolan North but Jen Taylor is also a good example. It does break immersion for me.

Michael Dorn too, btw, he'll always be Worf to me. :P


Why should they do different voices in different games? Unless the character requires a determined voice there isn't really any reason to do it.  Morrigan doesn't exist in ME universe, so Xen doesn't have the same voice as any other ME character. Would you want to actors to change appearence to the point of not being recognized in every movie? It's a different setting, nothing wrong is using actors that aren't still in it.

In the same game I'm all for changing the voice if the same voice actor does different characters. Actually I would say it's a requirement unless the other characteres are clones or something...

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BiancoAngelo7 wrote...
Playing DAO and then playing ME2 in such a short time and immediately recognizing her voice because there was no inflection work on her part for Xen and Morrigan just completely makes me go "oh look Space Morrigan"


Again: you were very likely expected to notice that.  Do you really think it's a coincidence that the three admirals with a vote are Morrigan, Logain, and Avernus?

Modifié par didymos1120, 03 janvier 2011 - 08:20 .


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I think of the voices as being the voices of the characters, not the voice actors. That's how it should be anyway.



So I have no problem with Space Morrigan.

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Doing Sci-Fi shows and voice work for video games are only just beginning to lose their stigma in Hollywood. Once, it was a case where if you were cast in a scifi show, thats all you would then get regular work in. Only the big names like Sheen could go along and do it without it adversely affecting their career prospects.

With CGI and green screen tech being used more often, the once fringe actors in those genres are beginning to get more work, as those shows relied heavily on people being able to respond believably to stimulli that didnt actually exist on set.

So is it any wonder why the same names crop up time and again doing scifi and games work? Gamers, and game devs, are a loyal breed. Do fine work on a project, and you will be rewarded with more contracts.

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That's true, there's definitely a sense of tight-knit family when it comes to games.

Modifié par Fdingo, 03 janvier 2011 - 09:08 .


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Martin Sheen as The Illusive Man was amazing to me. I like Martin Sheen, so getting to have him as a character in the game (technically) made me happy. As for every other voice in the game, I have no idea who those people are and the voices don't sound familiar to me. I played Dragon Age and other Bioware games, but I don't remember what the people sound like when I play Mass Effect, because I'm not listening for it.

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Let us tell Jennifer Hale to take a hike, then, too.

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I agree with BiancoAngelo7. Hearing a voice like Xen's after playing Dragon Age was jarring, especially as she was in the same room as the guy that did logain. Now knowing that she did the illium bartender, why wasn't she told to do a different voice for Xen?



I personally don't mind hearing the same voice actor, but I think it's bad when they use the same voice. An example of a good voice actor, imo, is Fred Tatasciore. He did the voice of Saren in Mass Effect and the voice of Mario in Assassin's Creed. To me, I could not tell that they were the same.

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i had no idea she was even in me2 until i saw it in her imdb page.

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Schneidend wrote...

Let us tell Jennifer Hale to take a hike, then, too.


I'm all for this, and Nolan North and anyone else who doesn't change their voice in the slightest bit.

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Who does she voice in ME2? Which part of the game is that character in?

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Darth_Ravor

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she is an admaril in the quarian flotilla

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It really depends on how the VA handles their role. For instance, the guy who plays Kaiden(can't remember his name right now) clearly makes no effort to sound any different from his performance of Carth in KOTOR, and that is fairly noticeable in Mass Effect.



But then let's take Jennifer Hale, who seems to make an effort to change up her performance from game to game.



There's also the problem of VAs who have major roles in one game, but a minor role in another. Take the guy who played Loghain for example. He plays one of the quarian admirals, but since his role is so small, he really makes no effort to change up his voice to really do a new character. Vice-versa, Zaeed's actor has a minor role in DA:O as Murdock, and there's really no difference there either.

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BiancoAngelo7

It was bad enough trying to adapt to the Illusive Man and stop imagining Martin Sheen even with my eyes wide open whenever he talked in game.




Might be nit picking I know, but aside from the glowing blue eyes The Illusive Man does look like Martin Sheen.


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Goose4291 wrote...

BiancoAngelo7
It was bad enough trying to adapt to the Illusive Man and stop imagining Martin Sheen even with my eyes wide open whenever he talked in game.


Might be nit picking I know, but aside from the glowing blue eyes The Illusive Man does look like Martin Sheen.


I haven't actually seen many things with Martin Scheen so I didn't have too much trouble.  Watching more of his stuff however, I see how many people couldn't adjust and just accept him as the Illusive Man.

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I agree with whoever said we need more Claudia Black not less.

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rokeeb wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

Let us tell Jennifer Hale to take a hike, then, too.


I'm all for this, and Nolan North and anyone else who doesn't change their voice in the slightest bit.


*cough*



Agreed on North, though. Untalented git.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 03 janvier 2011 - 10:49 .


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Schneidend

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I was more being sarcastic, pointing out the hypocrisy of demanding the removal of specific oversaturated voice actors.

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LiquidGrape

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Schneidend wrote...

I was more being sarcastic, pointing out the hypocrisy of demanding the removal of specific oversaturated voice actors.


Eh, I was really just quoting the second post. But duly noted.

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adam_grif wrote...

You think Claudia Black is Jarring? How about Steve Blum portraying like 30 different characters in every single game ever made. Or Martin Sheen. Or Jennifer "Naomi" Hale. Or Seth Green FFS!

Steve Blum talks to himself on the Normandy.

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I enjoy hearing the famous actors I'm not at all put off by Baily being Ty from battlestar infact I think its fun and I've enjoyed all the famous actors ( I recognize at least) being put in there. The only way Claudia Black annoys me is when I see her I recently saw pitch black and realized that she hasn't changed in pitch black, farscape, and more recently stargate she's the same long brown/black haired girl who likes to shoot things the only difference from farscape to stargate is in the latter she got Blondie strands added in but I can't see her as anyone actor wise then the woman in farscape so I keep seeing her pop up in stargate thinking why are you here and where is John and your kid!? Vocally not annoyed with her visually seeing her as look alike to past loved character annoyed.