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[ForumHelper]

This should depend on the choices you made through the whole 1 and 2 parts. Choices like for ex. saving/killing Rachni Queen, or saving the Geths on their ship. What's bad with this is a renegade Shepard would probably die.

Modifié par SarKter, 03 janvier 2011 - 05:11 .

[Ghost Warrior]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I said this once in a similar thread before, but I'll say it again.

Shepard already died. Having her die again is less emotional by default because of it.

Not necessarily.First time,Tali and Garrus lost their commanding officer,friend at best.After ME2,there is a chance there were your LI so it’s actually a bigger loss from their perspective.Same goes for Liara.Other ME2 squadmates would actually lose you for the first time.So imagine your canon Shep,imagine him going through all three games with or without LI,and you say it wouldn’t be emotional.I say it would be more emotional than the first time,especially if it’s well presented, and since I fully believe in Bioware’s talent...

[DrunkenMonkey]

they could do a red dead ending....

[Kasen]

Should Shepard dying be an option? Of course it should. Should it be mandatory? Absolutely not.

I'm tired of the 'heroic sacrifice' cliche as well, and I'll be sorely disappointed if that's the only ending available that doesn't make the player feel like a total jerk (as was the case with a fairly recent game that will remain unnamed). Personally, over the course of the last few years I've grown more fond of Commander Shepard than, really any other video game character ever - I don't want her to die. Is it really so bad for me to want a happy ending to a game I love?

Modifié par Kasen13, 03 janvier 2011 - 05:21 .

[BiancoAngelo7]

Yes.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

It should be possible but not required. 

I like the idea of my Paragon FemShep going on to serve as a Specter or with the Alliance for another ten or twenty years, then settling down to run security on some snowy garden world for some non-profit medical corporation before passing peacefully into her old age.

My Renegade Shepard would end up dying in the fight against the Reapers though.  He'd go out in a blaze of glory, with an assault rifle slung under each arm, firing wildly while he battered a collector to death with his pelvis.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Ghost Warrior wrote...
Not necessarily.First time,Tali and Garrus lost their commanding officer,friend at best.After ME2,there is a chance there were your LI so it’s actually a bigger loss from their perspective.Same goes for Liara.Other ME2 squadmates would actually lose you for the first time.So imagine your canon Shep,imagine him going through all three games with or without LI,and you say it wouldn’t be emotional.I say it would be more emotional than the first time,especially if it’s well presented, and since I fully believe in Bioware’s talent...

I said it would be less emotional, not that it wouldn't be emotional at all.  And I think that's true.

BioWare has a universe where resurrection from death is a medical fact.  The main character dying is not as big a sacrifice or impactful moment in such a universe.  There will always be that "Oh, let's just resurrect Shep again!" mindset, whether it's for the players or the other characters in the story.
So unless Shep's new death involves being incinerated, exploded, and otherwise vaporized then I see no reason to assume they wouldn't throw Shepard in a freezer and have a bake sale to fund another resurrection.

Edit: And as an addition: To write off the Lazarus technology as a one-time deal or a special occurrence is to admit that it was a gigantic deus ex machina and would cement how poorly written ME can be.

Modifié par Mystranna Kelteel, 03 janvier 2011 - 05:27 .

[Someone With Mass]

I find the hero dying at the end for whatever reason to be very cliché, overdone, and rather pointless so I wouldn't mind if Shep survives ME3.

[Ghost Warrior]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I said it would be less emotional, not that it wouldn't be emotional at all.  And I think that's true.

BioWare has a universe where resurrection from death is a medical fact.  The main character dying is not as big a sacrifice or impactful moment in such a universe.  There will always be that "Oh, let's just resurrect Shep again!" mindset, whether it's for the players or the other characters in the story.
So unless Shep's new death involves being incinerated, exploded, and otherwise vaporized then I see no reason to assume they wouldn't throw Shepard in a freezer and have a bake sale to fund another resurrection.

Edit: And as an addition: To write off the Lazarus technology as a one-time deal or a special occurrence is to admit that it was a gigantic deus ex machina and would cement how poorly written ME can be.

Agreed

Imperium Alpha wrote...

You have the choice :
loosing everyone you know and love (joker,crew member, LI, squad, Turian Councillor) ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png

or
sacrificing yourself for your crew and your friend ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png

Yep,something like that

Modifié par Ghost Warrior, 03 janvier 2011 - 05:33 .

[Mr Zoat]

I don't mind earning a happy ending, but I will be narked off it one is impossible.

[II J0SePh X II]

DrunkenMonkey wrote...

they could do a red dead ending....

That would stink!

Seriously Bioware. Don't do this.

There should be more than one ending. Success or failure, with a nice video of the reapers wiping out the galaxy for failure.

[Slavka13748]

I'd want a happy ending, since 'heroic sacrifice' endings just bum me out (I'm looking at you, Dragon Age). But I agree that there should be a whole range of endings, from utter failure to everybody surviving.

[Aglazzboi]

If its a rpg, we need mutiple endings. Period

[Mister Mida]

Why not?

[ObserverStatus]

Ultimate Sacrifice is a bit cliche , whether or not Shepard lives should depend on this decisions he made long before reaching the end sequence.

[GrimmReaper28]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...

I think you should have a choice. Maybe in some scenarios sacrifice should be the only way to destroy the Reapers. Maybe a character you could kill, but didn't, could do it.

You have the choice :
loosing everyone you know and love (joker,crew member, LI, squad, Turian Councillor)

or
sacrificing yourself for your crew and your friend :innocent:

Man, I thought they should do the exact same thing, but maybe, under the right cirumstances have only a couple people die, or under other circumstances have the entire crew die. But I agree with you two, that would make the game awesome. Because then it's not just a game where you run around killing bad guys. It's a game with emotion, sacrifice. A game that has the true makings of a good movie.

[ObserverStatus]

Better yet, it should be like ME2 in which Shepard only dies if he screws up.

[Ghost Warrior]

m14567 wrote...

I agree with what others have said, since Shepard has already died, it's lost all meaning. If you die at the end of ME 3 then basically that means that no one was interested in resurrecting you.

And why would anyone resurrect you after ME3? Either Reapers won,so there is nobody to resurrect you or we won and nobody actually needs Shep anymore (not enough to spend billions on resurrecting him,anyway) because main focus is rebuilding galaxy from terrible losses(there will be,of course).

Modifié par Ghost Warrior, 03 janvier 2011 - 06:55 .

[Xarello111]

I hope for multiple endings.

[DJBare]

bobobo878 wrote...

Ultimate Sacrifice is a bit cliche , whether or not Shepard lives should depend on this decisions he made long before reaching the end sequence.

It's a lot cliche, but then so is walking off into the sunset.
I don't really know how they will create an epic ending, I just hope it's neither of those, they tried the ultimate sacrifice in Fallout, that was met with uproar.

As others have said, it should be about the choices you made, if you made poor choices then perhaps the ultimate sacrice could be the final "choice"

[Silver]

I hate these "heroic death" endings in games & movies.
Especially when there was either no choice at all, or only the choice of sending someone else to his death, making you look like a frickin' epic coward (Dragon Age, i'm looking right at ya).

I want to "have my cake and eat it too" instead having to choose wether I die or someone else dies.
You have to be able to give everything and also get everything in return for all that your character and his crew did.
It was possible in ME1, even when you saved the council (yes, human soldiers died defending the Destiny Acension, but there would have been deaths among humans either way).

Modifié par silverhammer08, 03 janvier 2011 - 07:43 .