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Should Shepard survive ME3?


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He/she should not die. At this point having the hero sacrifice himself/herself for the greater good is a huge cliche and is over done.

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ME3 will likely take the same approach as ME2 when it comes to character death- your choices in the game (previous games?) will directly effect the outcome of the ending. So whether you think he should or should not die, I imagine you will get to make that choice.



I'm personally a sucker for happy endings- so I'll do whatever I can to keep him alive. :D

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Heroic sacrifice should be an ending, but that's it. Just one ending of many.

Modifié par marshalleck, 03 janvier 2011 - 07:53 .


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yes

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I'm more attached to my canon Shep than I am to any of the crew, or the rest of the mass effect universe in general .. so yah, I'd like to see a game ending where Shep lives.

That said, this is a series dominated by the prevalence of player choice .. can't imagine that they won't give us some choice as to how it ends.

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Lord Kable wrote...

I hope not - otherwise he wouldn't be able to cameo in ME 4,5 and 6 ;)


DING DING DING

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He'll ascend. Not die ;)

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MysticMage44 wrote...

He/she should not die. At this point having the hero sacrifice himself/herself for the greater good is a huge cliche and is over done.


And then that becomes over-done--the happy ending, I mean.

The truth is, everything loses its potency when it is taken in constantly, but if we enjoy ourselves, regardless of the outcome, it will be great.
We are already enthralled enough to make a bajillion B.S. topics on the forums about Mass Effect. We'll be hard to disappoint.

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I think that Shepard should survive in all endings, but your post game could vary.

Ex: you lose squadmates, certain races hate you for your actions during the game, you can't set foot on certain planets



In the end, your ending should be chosen by your "final decision", and other choices will affect the quality of your Shepard's life afterward (as well as the state of the galaxy).

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The Big Nothing wrote...

MysticMage44 wrote...

He/she should not die. At this point having the hero sacrifice himself/herself for the greater good is a huge cliche and is over done.


And then that becomes over-done--the happy ending, I mean.

The truth is, everything loses its potency when it is taken in constantly, but if we enjoy ourselves, regardless of the outcome, it will be great.
We are already enthralled enough to make a bajillion B.S. topics on the forums about Mass Effect. We'll be hard to disappoint.

Exactly.You all keep saying how that hero-sacrifice thing is a cliche,but actually,happy end is the biggest cliche there is.

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Yes and No. Have the player choose his/her fate, blah, blah, blah ... but unlike ME2, please make it a lot harder for Shep to survive. A rainbow and bunnies ending would be fine just as lone as Shep earned it.

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One of my Shep s will surly die because he is gonna become indoctrinated due to his cybernetics and the galaxy will be Reaped.....

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Lord Kable wrote...

I hope not - otherwise he wouldn't be able to cameo in ME 4,5 and 6 ;)


Siegdrifa wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

I don’t think so.If he dies,it will be more emotional,more convincing and EA won’t be able to exploit him.What do you think?


Like
i said in another thread, i'm tired of all this epic story having the
hero die in the end, they became countless and pure cliché.

It's
like the writers have no guts at all and can't take responsability for
the heroic act accomplished by the hero, and anyway what could be done
after you save the whole galaxy..... let's make the hero die at the pic
of his accomplishement and glory, so he will appear like a legend ...
i'm so tired of this kind of ****ty easy escape.

Plus, it would kill the mood for the replayability (wich is one of the best side of ME1 and ME2) for maaaaaany players.

And...
spending 4 years to enjoy playing with a character that wouldn't live
at the end of the story? ah damn.... Hey Shepard! don't bother desarm
the nuke on eden prim and die already, it will save you 4 years of
wasting your time.

If Shepard had to die, it should be a choice
of sacrifice, for people who think it would be the best ending, not a
ablogation, it would seriously kill the mood to strat a new
game...


Ok first off as far as has been said ( is could be changed) Mass Effect WIth Commander Shepard is to be a trilogy. So we will not be controlling Shepard in ME4 etc (if they make another... just saying)

OK no to the thread. I think that is should be the indivdual's choice.  I agree with Ghost Warrior.


Killing Shepard could be in Bioware's plan to move on to another main character but who? The second human sector? lol.

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Andy Dufresne had to crawl through 2 km of sewage to escape Shawshank Prison. Unless Shepard is willing to crawl through some literal sh*t to escape death, then no.



Obligatory martyrdom.

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His/her potential death should be a choice like your Warden in DA:O, being forced to die tends to actually take away from the mood I find. Everytime I am forced to die I feel like "Oh this is soooo good... dead? really? well there goes the good part..."

It always feels like what Bethesda did with FO3 until the DLC, it always made me ask "why couldn't I send in my super mutant buddy?"



So... make it a choice, if you want to die in the end, then you should be allowed too, if you want to live out the rest of your life, retire to a little planet, etc, you should be allowed to.

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HavocCRM wrote...

Killing Shepard could be in Bioware's plan to move on to another main character but who? The second human sector? lol.


It's a writting matter, there is no need to kill someone to be able to focus on someone else.
The truth is, are the writer afraid to let live Shepard (a living legend for his accomplishement) and prefer to choose an easy escape by killing him (thats so easy and overdone to death) ?

If you are worry that it could interfere with with ME4 character (ah yeah.... the big shadow or the nearly god Shepard), it's a writting matter, first we don't know if ME4 will take place here or on another galaxy, may be the end of ME3 and reapers will open other "door", and second, how many years will pass? may be more than a undred, so Shepard is dead but lived his old days.

Modifié par Siegdrifa, 04 janvier 2011 - 04:58 .


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Shepard must survive and be the hero of the galaxy! to live with glory and with his girlfriend :)

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Personally I think it should end with your Shepard standing on the corpse of Harbinger looking out over a city that had been destroyed by the Reapers. Just when you think its gonna be over Shepard all of a sudden falls to the ground from a well place head shot. The scene cuts to the back of a guy holding a sniper rifle in had as he ejects a thermal clip from it. The person turns around toward the camera and it turns out its Conrad Verner. As the screen fades to black you hear him say, "Point a gun in my face will ya...." And that's the way I think it should end for all you pure Renegade people who treat everyone like crap. XD

Seriously though I hope there are multiple endings depending on how you've played the games. Sort of like DA:O only even better.

Modifié par Daniel Anteron, 04 janvier 2011 - 03:26 .


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could be the start of a spin off, of some one from ME2

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@ The Big Nothing and Ghost Warrior



I Never said there should be a happy ending. Shepard living happily ever after is not the only alternative to Shepard dying. What I am saying is I Don't want to be forced to kill off Shepard to save the day. That has become almost as cliched as the fairy tale ending at this point. There should definitely be a sense of the toll this whole ordeal has taken on Shepard and the universe, but but Death and Happily ever after aren't the only ways to end this trilogy.

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NO. The stupid, weird smile, overly jesturerizing(just made it up- uses a lot of f*****g jestures that make him look like he's trying to work out what he p**ped in his pants), weird smiling BRICK

Modifié par desonnac00, 04 janvier 2011 - 05:16 .


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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

The possibility should exist, but only if it's optional. I'd hate it if any Shepard death were to be mandatory, and unavoidable. Surely a happy ending isn't too much to ask for, right?

Having said that, Shepard has already died once. The emotional impact of a second death has now been somewhat reduced, and it would not carry the weight that such a tragic occurrence should do.



This is exactly what I was thinking. ME2 is all about Shepard dying, and then trying to have Shepard and all squadmates survive suicidal odds. It's like the focus of the game.

I think the possibility to have squadmates/Shepard die in ME3 will certainly be there, but not to the degree of ME2. I'm pretty sure there will be a way to have everyone survive, barring a required Virmire-esque decision. That's what I'm hoping anyway :P

To answer the thread's question: Yes. Happy ending ftw.

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I think, whether Shepard lives or dies in ME3, it should be based upon an accumulation of previous decisions made throughout ME1/ME2/ME3. In some cases the actions taken might lead to the death of Shepard while others would lead to Shepard's survival. Kind of like ME2's suicide mission, but more comprehensive than that. :P

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Eradyn wrote...

I think, whether Shepard lives or dies in ME3, it should be based upon an accumulation of previous decisions made throughout ME1/ME2/ME3. In some cases the actions taken might lead to the death of Shepard while others would lead to Shepard's survival. Kind of like ME2's suicide mission, but more comprehensive than that. :P

Actually, now that you mention it, I doubt it will work that way. I think it's decisions that you make within ME3 that will determine the ending. Think about it for a second; the reason is self-explanatory.