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[SufferingTormentDarkness]

Seriously i thought she was killed?

Modifié par SufferingTormentDarkness, 04 janvier 2011 - 01:48 .

[Negix]

waiiit... you only know that NOW.... geez that was like one of the first things they annonced

[Chaia]

The game starts before the Warden has the chance to kill her.

Modifié par Chaia, 03 janvier 2011 - 04:10 .

[YoziMaiden]

Don't be hating on the return of Captain Janeway.

[SufferingTormentDarkness]

Chaia wrote...

The game starts before the Warden has the chance to kill her.

K i forgot this but still why does she look different?

[YoziMaiden]

She's a shape shifter, she can look different if she wants. That and it makes the character look "kewler" and she'll probably be playing a bigger role in this game than the last so the generic look wasn't going to cut it this time around.

[Chaia]

SufferingTormentDarkness wrote...

Chaia wrote...

The game starts before the Warden has the chance to kill her.

K i forgot this but still why does she look different?

Well in the realms of the game its because Varric is narrating it, and he has quite the imagination. In reality its because the devs decided to redo the art design; everything has had a bit of overhaul.
 
EDIT: and also partly what YoziMaiden said.

Modifié par Chaia, 03 janvier 2011 - 04:20 .

[ErichHartmann]

SufferingTormentDarkness wrote...

Seriously i thought she was killed?

Did you even play DAO?

[Potato Cat]

Chaia wrote...

SufferingTormentDarkness wrote...

Chaia wrote...

The game starts before the Warden has the chance to kill her.

K i forgot this but still why does she look different?

Well in the realms of the game its because Varric is narrating it, and he has quite the imagination. In reality its because the devs decided to redo the art design; everything has had a bit of overhaul.
 
EDIT: and also partly what YoziMaiden said.

Is that why? I thought it must have had something to do with her changing from dragon form. If you look the armour and stuff looks quite draconic (if that's a word).

[Negix]

YoziMaiden wrote...

She's a shape shifter, she can look different if she wants. That and it makes the character look "kewler" and she'll probably be playing a bigger role in this game than the last so the generic look wasn't going to cut it this time around.

she cant look like a different human being tough...

[YoziMaiden]

Show me where it says a shape shifter can't look like someone else? Sure Morrigan could only become a spider, some bugs, and a bear... but Flemeth is like over 9000 years old. Besides I would think becoming some different looking human would be easy when you can become a dragon.

[Negix]

YoziMaiden wrote...

Show me where it says a shape shifter can't look like someone else? Sure Morrigan could only become a spider, some bugs, and a bear... but Flemeth is like over 9000 years old. Besides I would think becoming some different looking human would be easy when you can become a dragon.

ask morrigan if she can shape into another human being and she'll tell you exactly why this isnt possible

[Cobrawar]

Then why would flemeth need daughters if she could shape shift into other people?

[YoziMaiden]

Morrigan is a sissy, she can't but I'm sure Captain Janeway can.



Huh, well... I suspect it has something to do with the body actually breaking down. Shape Shifting may result in a transformation that alters physical capabilities and the like, but I have never ever seen in any story a shape shifter changing form's resulting in immortality.

[Chaia]

YoziMaiden wrote...

Morrigan is a sissy, she can't but I'm sure Captain Janeway can.

Captain Janeway can do anything after her morning coffee 

[Negix]

YoziMaiden wrote...

Morrigan is a sissy, she can't but I'm sure Captain Janeway can.

Huh, well... I suspect it has something to do with the body actually breaking down. Shape Shifting may result in a transformation that alters physical capabilities and the like, but I have never ever seen in any story a shape shifter changing form's resulting in immortality.

If you can change your shape into any other human being you can also change your shape so you are longer. physical age doesn't matter. for example, flemeth could become a high dragon. however, high dragons are very old creatures, meaning that flemeth with her 60-70 physical years couldn't become one if the physical age mattered. thus, shapeshifting and physical age must be unrelated.

[PsychoBlonde]

If you ask Morrigan about it in-game, she tells you that she "learns nothing by taking on another human form" NOT that it's impossible. She just doesn't do it, probably because she despises other people and assumes she knows everything she needs to know about them already.

[Schneidend]

Flemeth taught Morrigan everything Morrigan knows.

Flemeth didn't teach Morrigan everything Flemeth knows.

[Johnny Shepard]

Yea, but the Devs have said that its Morrigan who can't shapeshift in to people because she is not nearly as powerful as Captain Janeway.



And Morrigan also said that her mother looks old and weak because she wants people to se her like that but is not how se really looks.

If she want to show her power then she makes herself look powerful.



And Morrigan also said that if you kill her mother, she will return later. You have to remember what Flemeth are. An old powerful witch like nothing we have seen before. Do you really tjhink it would be that easy to destroy her? Myself I think she let you "kill" her.

Now, the Flemeth we meat at the begining of Dragon Age II is before the Warden fight her but that doesnt mean that she wont return later in the game.

[Negix]

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Yea, but the Devs have said that its Morrigan who can't shapeshift in to people because she is not nearly as powerful as Captain Janeway.

And Morrigan also said that her mother looks old and weak because she wants people to se her like that but is not how se really looks.
If she want to show her power then she makes herself look powerful.

And Morrigan also said that if you kill her mother, she will return later. You have to remember what Flemeth are. An old powerful witch like nothing we have seen before. Do you really tjhink it would be that easy to destroy her? Myself I think she let you "kill" her.
Now, the Flemeth we meat at the begining of Dragon Age II is before the Warden fight her but that doesnt mean that she wont return later in the game.

1. where exactly did the devs say flemeth could become another human being..
2. morrigan also says that flemmeth survives because she's overtaking daughters. she also says flemmeth was once young and aged like any other human being.  theres an age conflict if she has to overtake other bodies to stay young and become any other human being.

[YoziMaiden]

Negix wrote...

YoziMaiden wrote...

Morrigan is a sissy, she can't but I'm sure Captain Janeway can.

Huh, well... I suspect it has something to do with the body actually breaking down. Shape Shifting may result in a transformation that alters physical capabilities and the like, but I have never ever seen in any story a shape shifter changing form's resulting in immortality.

If you can change your shape into any other human being you can also change your shape so you are longer. physical age doesn't matter. for example, flemeth could become a high dragon. however, high dragons are very old creatures, meaning that flemeth with her 60-70 physical years couldn't become one if the physical age mattered. thus, shapeshifting and physical age must be unrelated.

Yes I agree that physical age and shape shifting must be unrelated,  as such...  one couldn't use shapeshifting as a means to gain immortality.  When the clock on your human body runs out it's light's out,  because if it wasn't anyone who stayed in the insect swarm for like 48 hours would die...

Unless of course the bugs are breeding...  which opens another can of vomit inducing worms.

Modifié par YoziMaiden, 03 janvier 2011 - 05:22 .

[YoziMaiden]

oops

Modifié par YoziMaiden, 03 janvier 2011 - 05:21 .

[IRMcGhee]

Negix wrote...

YoziMaiden wrote...

Show me where it says a shape shifter can't look like someone else? Sure Morrigan could only become a spider, some bugs, and a bear... but Flemeth is like over 9000 years old. Besides I would think becoming some different looking human would be easy when you can become a dragon.

ask morrigan if she can shape into another human being and she'll tell you exactly why this isnt possible

She didn't say it wasn't possible, she said she doesn't because she wouldn't learn anything by changing into another human form.

[Atakuma]

New art direction, new look.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

YoziMaiden wrote...

Don't be hating on the return of Captain Janeway.

Well said.