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[maxernst]

Depends what you mean by like. As a place for gameplay, I think I would find Orlais, Antiva or Tevinter more interesting than Ferelden, but the lot of common folk is probably better in Ferelden.



As far as Ferelden being "England", well, sort of. I think of it as an England where the Romanized British successfully fought off the Germanic and Norse invaders (Chasind), hence the names are all celtic, not germanic.

[Malchior the Angel of Fear]

oldgodbioware wrote...

Actually a lot of the names of characters are irish, take Morrigan and flemeth both irish names.

It's true, They are. I know Morrigan is a Goddess, but i havent placed the Name Flemeth yet. 
Ok, now back on topic, I would have to say either Antiva, Tevinter, or the anderfells 

[Big I]

1)Tevinter, because of it's rich history of civilisation. Not the nicest bunch of people, but definitely one of the coolest. I also like that they treat mages as people instead of weapons about to go off.

2) Seheron and Par Vollen, because the qunari are powerful, mysterious, and (mostly) equitable to their subjects.

3) Rivain, because it seems the most cosmopolitan and the only country with any real freedom of religion. I'm also intrigued by a human population that has adopted the qun.

Modifié par LookingGlass93, 05 janvier 2011 - 06:08 .

[NonCanon]

I'm most intrigued bu Orlais and Antiva.

I didn't like Ferelden much, but it's grown on me.

[Addai]

maxernst wrote...

As far as Ferelden being "England", well, sort of. I think of it as an England where the Romanized British successfully fought off the Germanic and Norse invaders (Chasind), hence the names are all celtic, not germanic.

There are shades of Germanic culture in Ferelden, too, though.  The Landsmeet, for example.

Ferelden is my favorite.  Not just because it's the one we know best so far, but I identify with a lot of the cultural values compared to the other nations we've been introduced to.  Which hasn't been many, really- not in any detail.

Modifié par Addai67, 05 janvier 2011 - 06:16 .

[Aedan_Cousland]

Ferelden, though it has an unfair advantage of being the focus of the only DA game to be released thus far. With other regions for the most part you only have to the codex to go by.

But out of the unvisted lands mentioned in the codex, the Anderfels sound the most interesting to me.

The Anderfels are a land of shocking extremes. It is the most desolate place in all the world, for two Blights have left great expanses of the steppes so completely devoid of life that corpses cannot even decay there--no insect or grub will ever reach them.

It is a land filled with wonders like the Merdaine, with its gigantic white statue of Our Lady carved into its face, her hands outstretched and bearing an eternal flame, or Weisshaupt Fortress, with its walls of living rock towering over the desolate plains below.

The Anders, too, are a people of extremes: The most devout priests and the most deadly soldiers, the poorest nation in the world and the most feared.

--From In Pursuit of Knowledge: Travels of a Chantry Scholar, by Brother Genitivi

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Antiva

[Harid]

Do we know enough about any country but Fereldan to like anything more than the concept of another nation?



Because in terms of concepts, I would have to say Rivain, the Tevinter Imperium, Antiva, and Par Vollen.

[Roth]

 I'd like to see Orlais, but not the whole country, just that particular part of it in the bottom left corner of the Thedas map. Sulfur Lakes, Sea of Ashes, Sundered Sea, Malcellin Geysers, The Abyssal Reach... Sounds more like an endgame area (two of the places are named after Archdemons after all...) but I hope there are mining cities and trade markets there. It would be nice to travel through towns that are always shrouded in fog from geysers and people have to wear mouth protection because of the sulfur fumes. Oh, and the sulfur lakes!

[Bryy_Miller]

AlexXIV wrote...

oldgodbioware wrote...

I personaly,dont like Ferelden, as its based on england and im irish so you can see the reason for the dislike
I don't like orlais either,french accents are annoying no offence.
I like the Tevinter Imperium,they are cool and dark i also like the idea of the Free Marche's reminds me of the independant Greek cities thousands of years ago,i like the Anderfells as i love german accent's.

You probably take that 'based on england' a bit too serious. It doesn't mean you have to hate it because you are irish.

Do you LIVE in Europe? Have you BEEN there? Imagine a continent holding many different countries, all of whom have at one point subjugated or immigrated to the other. Hell, the IRA still exists.

I understand what you mean, but the Irish *hate* the English, and vice versa.

[TwistedComplex]

Seheron

Land of a master race

Modifié par TwistedComplex, 05 janvier 2011 - 08:37 .

[Bryy_Miller]

errant_knight wrote...



We don't actually say 'aboot', you know....

Yes you do. At least those of you from Victoria.

[request denied]

I would like to see Orlais it sounds beautiful .

Modifié par request denied, 05 janvier 2011 - 08:38 .

[Gabey5]

we literally know very little about anything outside ferelden

[EclipticOlive54]

1) Antiva would be a must

2) The Dales from what I remeber are ruins of the former elven capital so I'd be curious to visit

3) Val Royeaux (think its spelled that way) sounds like a city of immense beauty

[Steingrimur Steingrimsson]

Free Marches for me. I have a tough time figuring out if it's based on the Benelux area, Scandinavia or Ancient Greece. It seems to be a good mix of the three. Blend that with a Tevinter past and you've got something pretty unique.

[AlexXIV]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

oldgodbioware wrote...

I personaly,dont like Ferelden, as its based on england and im irish so you can see the reason for the dislike
I don't like orlais either,french accents are annoying no offence.
I like the Tevinter Imperium,they are cool and dark i also like the idea of the Free Marche's reminds me of the independant Greek cities thousands of years ago,i like the Anderfells as i love german accent's.

You probably take that 'based on england' a bit too serious. It doesn't mean you have to hate it because you are irish.

Do you LIVE in Europe? Have you BEEN there? Imagine a continent holding many different countries, all of whom have at one point subjugated or immigrated to the other. Hell, the IRA still exists.

I understand what you mean, but the Irish *hate* the English, and vice versa.

I know that, what I meant is that Ferelden isn't England. It is based on it as in the same weather, similar culture. It doesn't mean that Ferelden represents england's political agenda. Ferelden has even been occupied not too far before so it probably even has more similarities with scotland than england.

I have not the best opinion about england or britain in their dealing with the northern ireland situation at all. At best it was a shame for a civilized european country to act that poorly in a time that we like to see as modern and more civilized. But that's got nothing to do with Ferelden. There is no ireland in Thedas, so Ferelden is probably to be seen as a mixture of irish, english and scottish people.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 05 janvier 2011 - 11:47 .

[The Elder King]

AlexXIV wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

oldgodbioware wrote...

I personaly,dont like Ferelden, as its based on england and im irish so you can see the reason for the dislike
I don't like orlais either,french accents are annoying no offence.
I like the Tevinter Imperium,they are cool and dark i also like the idea of the Free Marche's reminds me of the independant Greek cities thousands of years ago,i like the Anderfells as i love german accent's.

You probably take that 'based on england' a bit too serious. It doesn't mean you have to hate it because you are irish.

Do you LIVE in Europe? Have you BEEN there? Imagine a continent holding many different countries, all of whom have at one point subjugated or immigrated to the other. Hell, the IRA still exists.

I understand what you mean, but the Irish *hate* the English, and vice versa.

I know that, what I meant is that Ferelden isn't England. It is based on it as in the same weather, similar culture. It doesn't mean that Ferelden represents england's political agenda. Ferelden has even been occupied not too far before so it probably even has more similarities with scotland than england.

I have not the best opinion about england or britain in their dealing with the northern ireland situation at all. At best it was a shame for a civilized european country to act that poorly in a time that we like to see as modern and more civilized. But that's got nothing to do with Ferelden. There is no ireland in Thedas, so Ferelden is probably to be seen as a mixture of irish, english and scottish people.

this. I don't know if Ferelden is based entirely on English culture, or if it  has Scottish and Irish parts in it, but I'm sure it isn't based  on england's political agenda. Ferelden ispires itself from the historical medioeval England, divided in lordlands (thoug as an european I believe that even Germany and France were divided in feuds in Middle Age), and maybe the whole Ferelden Civil War was inspired to the English civil wars, but that's all. Ferelden isn't England, as well as Tevinter isn't the Bizantine Empire, but is INSPIRED from it. You can hate English people as much you want, but don't say "English hate Irish, and Irish hates English", it could be true for a lot of people, but I know an Irish person who lives in England and doesn't hate English at all. If your statemente is true, why Irish government doesn't have an anti.english agenda? If I was an Irish that hates English, I will express my dissent to Irish partecipation in the European Union.

[Thestral]

I'm quite partial to Ferelden, but I'm looking forward to seeing the Free Marches. I think seeing Val Royeaux would be cool.

Dellingr wrote...

OP: one point, Ferelden's not based on medieval England, it's based on medieval Scotland

^ This is what I thought.

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Do you LIVE in Europe? Have you BEEN there? Imagine a continent holding many different countries, all of whom have at one point subjugated or immigrated to the other. Hell, the IRA still exists.

I understand what you mean, but the Irish *hate* the English, and vice versa.

This is absolute nonsense. You can't make such blanket generalization as "the Irish hate the English and vice versa". That's blatantly not true. There are some Irish people who hate the English and some English people who hate the Irish, but it's only a vocal section of the population and far from being the case for every individual person. :|

[Shevy]

The Anderfels and Par Vollen sound very interesting to me. But I have to say that I feel really connected to Ferelden and after I read both novels and played the games multiple times, I have some kind of national pride for it.

That said, I will decide pro Ferelden if there is such a decision in DA 2.

[AlexXIV]

hhh89 wrote..

this. I don't know if Ferelden is based entirely on English culture, or if it  has Scottish and Irish parts in it, but I'm sure it isn't based  on england's political agenda. Ferelden ispires itself from the historical medioeval England, divided in lordlands (thoug as an european I believe that even Germany and France were divided in feuds in Middle Age), and maybe the whole Ferelden Civil War was inspired to the English civil wars, but that's all. Ferelden isn't England, as well as Tevinter isn't the Bizantine Empire, but is INSPIRED from it. You can hate English people as much you want, but don't say "English hate Irish, and Irish hates English", it could be true for a lot of people, but I know an Irish person who lives in England and doesn't hate English at all. If your statemente is true, why Irish government doesn't have an anti.english agenda? If I was an Irish that hates English, I will express my dissent to Irish partecipation in the European Union.

to be honest, if ferelden was based on medivial germany it would just look the same. Since it wasn't very different. I bet it even smelled like wet dog. Just if Bioware said they based Ferelden on germany then everyone would expect a medivial form of the SS patrolling the streets ...

Modifié par AlexXIV, 05 janvier 2011 - 12:19 .

[BTCentral]

oldgodbioware wrote...

I don't hate it im just not fond of english people their very rude,to irish people.

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I'm English and I love Ireland and Irish people.

It's a pity that there's still such a dislike of this country among some of the Irish, as I've never been privy to anything like that on this end.

I am also English, and agree with what Gill Kaiser. All of the Irish people I actually know have always been good, fun loving people. That and really I love the Irish accent too.

Honestly, I have never met an English person that does not like the Irish here - having said that, making assumptions that everyone in a country is the same is just a naive way of looking at things.

Anyway... that's completely off topic.

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Personally, i'd like to see Orlais. I was hoping we might see some of it in Leliana's Song, but unfortunately not.
Other than that, i'd also like to see the Tevinter Imperium.

I'd have thought we could have some real interesting plots in both locations.

Modifié par BTCentral, 05 janvier 2011 - 12:32 .

[Chaia]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Do you LIVE in Europe? Have you BEEN there? Imagine a continent holding many different countries, all of whom have at one point subjugated or immigrated to the other. Hell, the IRA still exists.

I understand what you mean, but the Irish *hate* the English, and vice versa.

While I don't want to derail the conversaton more then it has been...

Erm since your location points you to being in LA have you ever 'BEEN' to both England and Ireland and asked both of us if we 'hate' each other?? Living in one of the most multi-cultural counties of England (Kent) I live and work along side lots of people from lots of other countries from around the world and Ireland being one of them, and oddly enouth no English people I know have any problems with the Irish, and the Irish I know living in England also don't have any problems with us English, I can't really say as much about the Irish currently living in Ireland as I haven't actully 'BEEN' there before.

I can see oldgodbioware might have had problems somewhere down the line, unforuntally England does have a bunch of vocal rude idiots (also know as Chavs, and a bad case of 'football hooligans'), but then again as you pointed out pretty much all European countries have been invaded and conquered by anther country at some point in their thousands of years of history, and some animosity does remain (although in England its more the English vs French then English vs Irish, although that doesn't mean that we hate the French it just means we're more competative with them then any other European country)

and on a final note, I personaily (and other English poeple I know) find it very offensive and rude to bunch us togeather with a bunch of bigoted few....

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back to the topic at hand: Rivian, although I'm pretty interested to see Kirkwall/Free Marshes in DA2

Modifié par Chaia, 05 janvier 2011 - 12:40 .

[highcastle]

I thought Ferelden was inspired mostly by Scotland, despite the British accents. I don't remember where I read this though, so maybe it just comes courtesy the part of my brain that makes up accurate-sounding inspirations.

OT: We really haven't seen much of Thedas besides Ferelden yet. The political system of Orlais sounds intriguing to me, but I don't know if I'd call it my favorite country because we haven't seen any firsthand sources of it yet. Same with Antiva. A country roughly inspired by one of my favorite cities (Venice) seems like it could be gold. But until we actually go there and get a good look, it's silly to start picking favorites.

[Herr Uhl]

highcastle wrote...

I thought Ferelden was inspired mostly by Scotland, despite the British accents. I don't remember where I read this though, so maybe it just comes courtesy the part of my brain that makes up accurate-sounding inspirations.

The king in hiding bit leading a rebellion seems Scottish to me. And I remember that being said by some dev too.

Edit: Also, them being Celts against the old Rome seems more Scottish than English to me.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 05 janvier 2011 - 04:10 .