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I picked the renegade option (left mouse) when being interviewed by Khalisa-al-Jilani and Shep just clocked her doing quite the damage to her face with blood. Male on female violence and on camera from a well-known reporter. This makes absolutely no sense.

He is an ex-spectre on a galaxy saving mission that could quite possibly be arrested on Citadel for those actions. Well maybe the Illusive man or Anderson would bail him out. I don't care how renegade Shep is supposed to be there is no context for the action.

I didn't like her treatment of Shepard in both games, but would never do that.

Anybody think this is entirely apropriate?

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I believe they did that just to carry on tradition of punching her in ME1...not to mention everyone else beats her up. You need a certain DLC to see those tho.

They could make it totally appropriate if they put Bill O'riley or Glen Beck in her place. I would cry with joy and replay that interview for hours on end.

Modifié par Sidac, 04 janvier 2011 - 05:27 .


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She's asking for it, the fact that she's a woman and shepard (potentially) is a man is beside the point.

Wether it was appropriate or not isn't relevant I think. It might have been for the ME1, but it's now become a gag more than anything. Alliance military does make it clear in Me1 that it isn't acceptable, obviously though they can't touch shepard at that point. And as mentioned, she gets hit by a krogan and a volus as well. :P

You can be sure she'll be back in ME3. She should do her interviews with a hockey mask.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 04 janvier 2011 - 05:28 .


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Well deserved, you know full well if you do the renegade interrupt something bad is going to happen yet you did it anyways, so you deep down wanted that falcon pawnch to happen.



She also tries to swing things to make you look bad, total douche lady

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Well generally speaking I think a trained soldier with combat strength has no business punching any civilians. It's just overkill. My b*tchshep didn't clock Khalisa but I wouldn't put it past her. My Dudeshep would never hit a woman (and 90% of the time anyone else) unless he was in combat.

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It stems from 1 she generally makes accusations barely hidden behind her questions its a read between the lines with her and she really is not a fan of yours personally or militarily and she's barely hiding it so the ren response is to punch her. Get the SB DLC go to the video room this girl just seems to insult and make unfounded accusations across species she's been slammed by Krogans and Volus I'm surprised she's still got a face!



Punching her is not a gratuitous violence sure it's a little out of place for a normal reaction but gratuitous violence no. I once had a neighbor who drew a gun on me and my friends because he was so sick of us running through his backyard same idea the response is alittle outside the norm but I doubt that guy would've shot us if we rolled our eyes at him. Shep wasn't going to shoot her for being slanderous and lying if he did then that would be gratuitous. Worse comes from god of war and others.

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Count Viceroy wrote...

She's asking for it, the fact that she's a woman and shepard (potentially) is a man is beside the point.

Wether it was appropriate or not isn't relevant I think. It might have been for the ME1, but it's now become a gag more than anything. Alliance military does make it clear in Me1 that it isn't acceptable, obviously though they can't touch shepard at that point. And as mentioned, she gets hit by a krogan and a volus as well. :P

You can be sure she'll be back in ME3. She should do her interviews with a hockey mask.


I don't think it is beside the point. Male on female violence is very abhorrent or should be to most people. I would only ever think about it to protect my life or that of another. Being she is an untained combatant and you have hulking biotic and military trained Shepard; it should never happen.

Well as humor it fails. In a cartoon maybe, but not a videogame.

After all you have organizations going on how NFL is bad because more incidents of  male on female violence after the Super Bowl. Do we need media attacking videogames for it?

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InvincibleHero wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

She's asking for it, the fact that she's a woman and shepard (potentially) is a man is beside the point.

Wether it was appropriate or not isn't relevant I think. It might have been for the ME1, but it's now become a gag more than anything. Alliance military does make it clear in Me1 that it isn't acceptable, obviously though they can't touch shepard at that point. And as mentioned, she gets hit by a krogan and a volus as well. :P

You can be sure she'll be back in ME3. She should do her interviews with a hockey mask.


I don't think it is beside the point. Male on female violence is very abhorrent or should be to most people. I would only ever think about it to protect my life or that of another. Being she is an untained combatant and you have hulking biotic and military trained Shepard; it should never happen.

Well as humor it fails. In a cartoon maybe, but not a videogame.

After all you have organizations going on how NFL is bad because more incidents of  male on female violence after the Super Bowl. Do we need media attacking videogames for it?

The fact that she is  a woman doesnt matter the fact that she is a punk does, she deserves what she gets, anyone he gets beat up by a volus desevers to get beaten by every other race as well.. plus i heard shes a batarian sleeper agent and works for the reapers

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Wrex: "Hahaha hitting women is funny..."

Modifié par Jagri, 04 janvier 2011 - 06:05 .


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If we want equality between the sexes then male on female violence should offend us no less than female on male violence, female on female violence or male on male violence. If we want a better society then all violence should offend us. However given this is a video game where you can blow persons brains out with a sniper rifle, I don't find this act of violence or any other particular act of violence particularly egregious.

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InvincibleHero wrote...

I don't think it is beside the point. Male on female violence is very abhorrent or should be to most people. I would only ever think about it to protect my life or that of another. Being she is an untained combatant and you have hulking biotic and military trained Shepard; it should never happen.


Let me guess, female shepard hitting her is alright? :unsure:

Well as humor it fails. In a cartoon maybe, but not a videogame.


Opinion. I find it hilarious that she gets herself beat up in every other interview she does (not just by shepard). And yet she keeps doing it.

After all you have organizations going on how NFL is bad because more incidents of  male on female violence after the Super Bowl. Do we need media attacking videogames for it?


Oh please, there's plenty of worse elements in every game ever, including Mass effect 2. I'm sure the media could find worse things to nitpick about if they really wanted to.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 04 janvier 2011 - 05:58 .


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After what she did to me in ME1 she got what's coming.

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I will personally be quite disappointed if she cannot be punched in ME3. Even if none of my Shepard's have hit her, its still damn hilarious to watch.

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-Skorpious- wrote...

I will personally be quite disappointed if she cannot be punched in ME3. Even if none of my Shepard's have hit her, its still damn hilarious to watch.


It's not the punching in it self that I love, it's the ridiculous useage of adjectives and 'nouns. :lol:

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 04 janvier 2011 - 06:06 .


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Lord Phoebus wrote...

If we want equality between the sexes then male on female violence should offend us no less than female on male violence, female on female violence or male on male violence. If we want a better society then all violence should offend us. However given this is a video game where you can blow persons brains out with a sniper rifle, I don't find this act of violence or any other particular act of violence particularly egregious.


I have no problem ventilating someone shooting a lethal weapon at your character. A trained military professional indeed high ranking officer just should not behave that way. Shepard is in no danger from al-Jilani. If it is that easy to make Shep lose his cool then his end should ahve come long ago. Image IPB

I am not saying it is right if a woman hits a man either.  I find it more shocking to have a man sucker punch a defenseless woman purely on something she said.

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Count Viceroy wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

I don't think it is beside the point. Male on female violence is very abhorrent or should be to most people. I would only ever think about it to protect my life or that of another. Being she is an untained combatant and you have hulking biotic and military trained Shepard; it should never happen.


Let me guess, female shepard hitting her is alright? :unsure:

Well as humor it fails. In a cartoon maybe, but not a videogame.


Opinion. I find it hilarious that she gets herself beat up in every other interview she does (not just by shepard). And yet she keeps doing it.

After all you have organizations going on how NFL is bad because more incidents of  male on female violence after the Super Bowl. Do we need media attacking videogames for it?


Oh please, there's plenty of worse elements in every game ever, including Mass effect 2. I'm sure the media could find worse things to nitpick about if they really wanted to.



No fem Shep doing it is not alright, but ceratinly more understandable and  definitely less taboo.

Would you find it humorous if Wrex clocked you for something you said and had to have facial reconstruction? How about if your sister (if you have one) is a reporter and a male she interviewed did the same to her? Is it still funny?

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InvincibleHero wrote...

No fem Shep doing it is not alright, but ceratinly more understandable and  definitely less taboo.

Would you find it humorous if Wrex clocked you for something you said and had to have facial reconstruction? How about if your sister (if you have one) is a reporter and a male she interviewed did the same to her? Is it still funny?


I can't believe I'm going to reply such a ridiculous statement but fine.

If my sister went out and basically asked to be punched in the face then yes, suit yourself.

Wether she was hit by a woman or man is beside the point totally. Why is female hitting a female more acceptable than male hititng female or vice versa?

Gender equality goes for everything, not just select parts. ****ing hypocrisy 

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 04 janvier 2011 - 06:15 .


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To be honest, I always thought that hitting her on camera is kind of stupid. Satisfying and well-deserved, but stupid. It just plays right into her game of making Shepard look bad. Kahlisa could also sue, but that's beside the point. I think Khalissa is out celebrating that she made Shepard look like a violent tool with a very short fuse yet again. What's s little bruise when you've got a punch that will make headlies and lot of money?

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Male on female violence




Are you implying it would be "less wrong" if it was female on female violence? Or male on male? Violence is violence. In the future people don't make petty distinctions like this.



(I hope)

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rma2110 wrote...

To be honest, I always thought that hitting her on camera is kind of stupid. Satisfying and well-deserved, but stupid. It just plays right into her game of making Shepard look bad. Kahlisa could also sue, but that's beside the point. I think Khalissa is out celebrating that she made Shepard look like a violent tool with a very short fuse yet again. What's s little bruise when you've got a punch that will make headlies and lot of money?


That's why I always prefer the options to make her look foolish.  Punching her might be momentarilly satisfying, but it's fleeting and ultimately does more harm than good. But beating them at their own game, and getting it on camera, is so much more satisfying long-term.

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rma2110 wrote...

To be honest, I always thought that hitting her on camera is kind of stupid. Satisfying and well-deserved, but stupid. It just plays right into her game of making Shepard look bad. Kahlisa could also sue, but that's beside the point. I think Khalissa is out celebrating that she made Shepard look like a violent tool with a very short fuse yet again. What's s little bruise when you've got a punch that will make headlies and lot of money?


^ this

Well, I don't like these Falcon Punches that much 'cos beating an unarmed civilian isn't something that does a marine/Spectre/savior of the Galaxy, both paragon and renegade, any honor (I'm playing as FemShep). But since it's more of a joke in ME2 I just ignore the option to punch her.

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Count Viceroy wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

No fem Shep doing it is not alright, but ceratinly more understandable and  definitely less taboo.

Would you find it humorous if Wrex clocked you for something you said and had to have facial reconstruction? How about if your sister (if you have one) is a reporter and a male she interviewed did the same to her? Is it still funny?


I can't believe I'm going to reply such a ridiculous statement but fine.

If my sister went out and basically asked to be punched in the face then yes, suit yourself.

Wether she was hit by a woman or man is beside the point totally. Why is female hitting a female more acceptable than male hititng female or vice versa?

Gender equality goes for everything, not just select parts. ****ing hypocrisy 


I would think the why is quite obvious. The disparity in size/ and strength is almost always to the male. I would feel the same for a 120 lb man against a 300 lb. steroid monster clocking him. It is a very unfair situation. Not to mention the fact it is a sucker punch. It is one thing to fight in self-defense but another to take a cheap shot.

Female/female is a more fair fight situation, even though fem Shep could still kill al-jilani with her bare hands.

I must be getting old, because I don't think it should be considered a part of gender equality to have a female getting punched by a man.

So you would laugh as your sister got punched by a much bigger man just because she might have deserved it? 
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It's really unnecessary to begin with. She's a reporter; people in that line of work have a reputation of being invasive and manipulative.

Male or female, it still looks wrong for Shepard, a fully trained soldier who apparently can kill krogan with an elbow strike, let loose on a defenseless albeit annoying civilian. It just makes Shepard look immature & easy to sucker-I mean provoke.

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rma2110 wrote...

To be honest, I always thought that hitting her on camera is kind of stupid. Satisfying and well-deserved, but stupid. It just plays right into her game of making Shepard look bad. Kahlisa could also sue, but that's beside the point. I think Khalissa is out celebrating that she made Shepard look like a violent tool with a very short fuse yet again. What's s little bruise when you've got a punch that will make headlies and lot of money?


Exactly. It just makes no sense for a male Shepard to do it. Though pretty much a fem Shepard would be in the same boat in the punishment line. I still think it worse for a man to hit a woman. I guess I'm old-fashioned. Image IPB

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I wish they give you the option to shoot her.