InvincibleHero wrote...
Xeranx wrote...
So now you're trying to wave away what happens with Conrad and you're saying he is threatening bar patrons? The owner of the bar stated that Conrad was causing trouble. I walked into the bar and the only person having any kind of discussion with Conrad was Atheytha (hope I spelled that right) and her responses to everything said by Conrad up until we initiate our own dialogue with him is, "uh huh". Her response is said with the tone that says she's either bored or tired of entertaining him. There were no bar patrons being harassed. In fact there were three guys watching an Asari table dance for them and elsewhere in the bar there was a Turian trying to come on to a Quarian female. If there was any danger there, you wouldn't know it to look at the bar patrons you say are being threatened.
Fact is there is no justification for discharging your weapon at an individual who doesn't present a clear and present danger to yourself or others. Talk about "totally gratuitous violence", by the time that shot is fired you already have his attention so there's no need to fire the shot. He isn't waving a gun around threatening to blow anyone away before or after you approach him. You're talking to him and the dialogue doesn't involve screaming or hostile action until you decide to hit him or shoot at his foot which is more likely to cause a panic. Then again, this doesn't worry you for whatever reason.
Just because they didn't adequately set up the scene doesn't make what the owner said any less valid. He did tell the bar maid to hand over the title in a threatening manner. She was not afraid of Verner because she is an Asari matriarch. She could have killed him at any time. Just like the cantina scene in Star Wars. it is a lawless place and people are jaded to it. It doesn't make it any less of a crime what Verner was doing.
You did not get to see anything that happened previously and it seemed when you walk in he is going to escalate the situation. Shepard defuses the situation when he sees who you are.
No danger to anyone? Did you not hear the threats both implicit and outright in Verner's spiel to her? He is both armored and possessed of a gun and making threats. He is the very definition of armed and dangerous. It makes sense in the context of the game to shoot an armored and armed person threatening another. It does not to punch a defenseless non-trained unarmed female reporter on the Citadel while cameras are rolling. You have no way to dispute that so the whole argument fails. Council would likely reprimand you for punching al-Jilani while in the case of Verner there is no case. On Illium Council has no jurisdiction, so even if Shepard killed Verner they would do nothing.
I'm going to repeat myself:
by the time that shot is fired you already have his attention so there's no need to fire the shot. He isn't waving a gun around threatening to blow anyone away before or after you approach him. You're talking to him and the dialogue doesn't involve screaming or hostile action until you decide to hit him or shoot at his foot which is more likely to cause a panic.
So, again, I ask for what context justifies firing a round at Conrad?
And I will ask the question again since you try to hide from it. What would your response be if Al-jilani was in Conrad's position and Conrad was in Al-jilani's position and both scenarios played out the exact same way?
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