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[Risax]

 In DA:O as a human Noble (both male and female) you could become king, as a male you had to stab Allistair in the back and marry Queen B*tch but still. And if you survived, you could ask to become Teryn of Gwaren, and if you carried over your save you also became the Teryn of Amaranthine.

But how about Hawke? We all know by now that he becomes the Champion of Kirkwall, does (s)he gain land by this?
And can you get additional land/part of Kirkwall? And if you do, will it be like Awakening? Trying to get nobles at your side, judging people for crimes, ect.

Modifié par Risax, 04 janvier 2011 - 02:28 .

[marshalleck]

Maybe it's a peasant uprising. Title and lands would be irrelevant in that case--just let the heads of aristocrats roll.

Modifié par marshalleck, 04 janvier 2011 - 02:32 .

[Ziggeh]

marshalleck wrote...

Maybe it's a peasant uprising. Title and lands would be irrelevant in that case--just let the heads of aristicrats roll.

And then the heads of the high ranking peasant revolutionaries, because power will have corrupted them.

[marshalleck]

Ziggeh wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Maybe it's a peasant uprising. Title and lands would be irrelevant in that case--just let the heads of aristicrats roll.

And then the heads of the high ranking peasant revolutionaries, because power will have corrupted them.

And so it goes.

[Risax]

marshalleck wrote...

Maybe it's a peasant uprising. Title and lands would be irrelevant in that case--just let the heads of aristicrats roll.

In Witch Hunt it was said that there was a giant refugee camp near Kirkwall... Maybe you are right. But you can probably pick sides in that case, peasants or aristicrats.

[marshalleck]

Actually, I think it's the Qunari who are most likely to be involved with decapitating the state, but who knows.

Modifié par marshalleck, 04 janvier 2011 - 02:34 .

[Maria Caliban]

Hawke is of noble blood.

[Ziggeh]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hawke is of noble blood.

OFF WITH HIS HEAD.

[marshalleck]

Oh snap.

Well maybe Hawke and his cadre of jack-booted police thugs put down a peasant uprising.

Modifié par marshalleck, 04 janvier 2011 - 02:42 .

[Arrtis]

You build up to it in this story being told by a dwarf.

After all history doesn't tell us everything.

So make it up as you go along and realize how little it matters.

[Risax]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hawke is of noble blood.

From his mother's side yes, but he has taken his fathers last name. Who probably was a mage in Kirkwall before he went (or maybe escaped) to Ferelden. We don't know how people will react to the son of a mage. 

Though it was mentioned in a preview that the Hawke family also has/had strong ties in Kirkwall, so maybe he has some aunts and uncles willing to help him out.

[LobselVith8]

Risax wrote...

 In DA:O as a human Noble (both male and female) you could become king, as a male you had to stab Allistair in the back and marry Queen B*tch but still. And if you survived, you could ask to become Teryn of Gwaren, and if you carried over your save you also became the Teryn of Amaranthine.

But how about Hawke? We all know by now that he becomes the Champion of Kirkwall, does (s)he gain land by this?
And can you get additional land/part of Kirkwall? And if you do, will it be like Awakening? Trying to get nobles at your side, judging people for crimes, ect.

It's never been stated for certain. While we could become Teyrn of Gwaren or Arl of Amaranthine in DA:O, the ramifications of that position as an elf or a mage (or even both, in my case) weren't really felt. Did humans simply care more about my character being the Hero of Ferelden than they did about my race or my status as a mage? From what little dialogue was provided in that area, that seemed to be the case (i.e. the bartender). I'm hoping that Hawke rising to power allows us the option to really change the world around us and see how those changes are implemented. I'd love to see an apostate Hawke have the power to really change things and improve the lot of the mages.

[Arrtis]

its going to be a fable/assassins creed story.

[ViSeiRa]

Actually I think the devs said he has noble blood on his mother's side, so the Amell family is a noble family but the Hawke family is not, that's why they're living in Lothering I think....

Edit:  'd.

Modifié par ViSeirA, 04 janvier 2011 - 02:49 .

[Ziggeh]

marshalleck wrote...

Well maybe Hawke and his cadre of jack-booted police thugs put down a peasant uprising.

And have them all murdered once he's in power and they become a political liability.

Modifié par Ziggeh, 04 janvier 2011 - 02:48 .

[PsychoBlonde]

Risax wrote...

But how about Hawke? We all know by now that he becomes the Champion of Kirkwall, does (s)he gain land by this?
And can you get additional land/part of Kirkwall?

What on earth does being the theoretical owner of a bunch of dirt have to do with anything?

From what I've gathered thus far, the "power" Hawke holds consists of becoming (either accidentally or by design) the linch-pin or fulcrum of the various large-scale conflicts erupting throughout Thedas.  Whether this in some version involves him owning some dirt is unknown and kind of irrelevant.

[marshalleck]

Ziggeh wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Well maybe Hawke and his cadre of jack-booted police thugs put down a peasant uprising.

And have them all murdered once he's in power and they become a political liability.

Ooooh, I see what you did there.

[Osena109]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hawke is of noble blood.

no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood  hawke is long awited common  origin story

[marshalleck]

Osena109 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hawke is of noble blood.

no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood  hawke is long awited common  origin story

You're wrong. Hawke's mother's family is nobility in Kirkwall, or somewhere in the Free Marches. Hawke's mage ancestry is patrilineal. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 04 janvier 2011 - 03:07 .

[Risax]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Risax wrote...

But how about Hawke? We all know by now that he becomes the Champion of Kirkwall, does (s)he gain land by this?
And can you get additional land/part of Kirkwall?

What on earth does being the theoretical owner of a bunch of dirt have to do with anything?

From what I've gathered thus far, the "power" Hawke holds consists of becoming (either accidentally or by design) the linch-pin or fulcrum of the various large-scale conflicts erupting throughout Thedas.  Whether this in some version involves him owning some dirt is unknown and kind of irrelevant.

A Champion would pretty much be the strongest person of a country, which I asume is an honour. 
And when some people where knighted, they gained a title and lands. And since Hawke is knighted Champion (if that is how you'd describe it) I just asumed (s)he would gain lands as well.

That, and as many people have pointed out, Hawke's mother Leandra Hawke (née Amell) is of noble blood. 
And since she is also a quest giver, who knows maybe Hawke gains a new home or some land depending on how strong the Amell family is in Kirkwall.

[Herr Uhl]

marshalleck wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hawke is of noble blood.

no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood  hawke is long awited common  origin story

You're wrong. Hawke's mother's family is nobility in Kirkwall, or somewhere in the Free Marches. Hawke's mage ancestry is patrilineal. 

Well, the human mage in Origins comes from the same family tree as momma Hawke.

[PsychoBlonde]

Risax wrote...

A Champion would pretty much be the strongest person of a country, which I asume is an honour. 
And when some people where knighted, they gained a title and lands. And since Hawke is knighted Champion (if that is how you'd describe it) I just asumed (s)he would gain lands as well.

Since the Free Marches aren't feudal, I seriously doubt this--there's a good possibility that the Viscount (or whoever) doesn't have lands to give away like this.  It is a good deal more probable that Hawke becomes "Champion" by popular acclaim of some kind.  The title *may* be formally bestowed as recognition, but it is more like being named MVP.

[marshalleck]

Herr Uhl wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hawke is of noble blood.

no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood  hawke is long awited common  origin story

You're wrong. Hawke's mother's family is nobility in Kirkwall, or somewhere in the Free Marches. Hawke's mage ancestry is patrilineal. 

Well, the human mage in Origins comes from the same family tree as momma Hawke.

I thought it was stated that Hawke's father comes from a long line of mages. DAO mage Amell clearly demonstrates that there is some mage blood on the mother's side, but I was under the impression that most of Hawke and Bethany's talent comes from their father.

Modifié par marshalleck, 04 janvier 2011 - 03:41 .

[Risax]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Risax wrote...

A Champion would pretty much be the strongest person of a country, which I asume is an honour. 
And when some people where knighted, they gained a title and lands. And since Hawke is knighted Champion (if that is how you'd describe it) I just asumed (s)he would gain lands as well.

Since the Free Marches aren't feudal, I seriously doubt this--there's a good possibility that the Viscount (or whoever) doesn't have lands to give away like this.  It is a good deal more probable that Hawke becomes "Champion" by popular acclaim of some kind.  The title *may* be formally bestowed as recognition, but it is more like being named MVP.

I think there is always a war going on in the Free Marches as I understand it, they only unite when they need to, like when a Blight starts.

But I suppose you're right, we don't now how much land around Kirkwall is owned by the Viscount.
Still, a small chance is still a chance.

[marshalleck]

Risax wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Risax wrote...

A Champion would pretty much be the strongest person of a country, which I asume is an honour. 
And when some people where knighted, they gained a title and lands. And since Hawke is knighted Champion (if that is how you'd describe it) I just asumed (s)he would gain lands as well.

Since the Free Marches aren't feudal, I seriously doubt this--there's a good possibility that the Viscount (or whoever) doesn't have lands to give away like this.  It is a good deal more probable that Hawke becomes "Champion" by popular acclaim of some kind.  The title *may* be formally bestowed as recognition, but it is more like being named MVP.

I think there is always a war going on in the Free Marches as I understand it, they only unite when they need to, like when a Blight starts.

But I suppose you're right, we don't now how much land around Kirkwall is owned by the Viscount.
Still, a small chance is still a chance.

There's not permanent war in the Free Marches, it's just a loose network of city-states. Like ancient Greece. Well, without all the wars. Errr.