Osena109 wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
Hawke is of noble blood.
no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood hawke is long awited common origin story
Wereparrot wrote...
Osena109 wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
Hawke is of noble blood.
no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood hawke is long awited common origin story
Did someone say mages can't be nobles? In which case, I hope Hawke san regain his nobility, to the point of being king. He likely won't end up as king, but that's what I want.
Risax wrote...
Isn't that why Cassandra wants Hawke?hhh89 wrote...
Aedan_Cousland wrote...
In one way or another, I think Hawke is going to end up unifying various city-states of the Free Marches into a single nation. He's going to be the Calenhad of the Free Marches.
Well, although I'd like the idea, I don't think this would happen. First, to unite the Free Marches you have to conquer the Free Marches (as Calenhad had done with the teyrins); even if he becames the king by saving the Free Marches form the qunari, he have to go to the other cities to save them. The skip time should help in this case, but imho DA2 will based itself in a different plot. Remember that we know that Hawke is the Champion of Kirkwall, but we don't know how and who named him Champion. I believe we are going to have the possibility to side in different factions, whoever they are.... don't think you could rule easily the Free Marches if you side with, for example, the mages in Kirkwall; I'm quite sure the Chantry will try to stop you first.
Aedan_Cousland wrote...
Hawke wouldn't necessarily
have to conquer other city-states. If the Qunari are invading, as many
speculate, the various city-states may look for a strong man to unify
them and drive out the invader. It has occasionally happened to divided
nations in times of crisis, and when faced with external threats.The
ancient Gauls for example unified under Vercingetorix and acknowledged
him king, in an effort to present a unified front to drive out Caesar
and the Romans. Unfortunately for the Gauls Caesar was a genius and they
were defeated, but if they had succeeded in driving the Romans out,
Caesar may have forced the Gauls to do something they previously had not
been able to do themselves: unify permanently under a single banner.
*If*
Hawke does become monarch though I imagine they'll be several different
endings dealing with whether or not he was a tyrant or a just king, or
something in between. And I'm sure the various decisions you make
regarding all the different factions would effect whether the Chantry
was strengthened or weakened, whether apostate mages have more freedom,
ect.
Or maybe I'm completely wrong and Hawke doesn't unify the Free Marches at all.
Either way I can't wait to play and find out. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png
AlexXIV wrote...
Wereparrot wrote...
Osena109 wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
Hawke is of noble blood.
no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood hawke is long awited common origin story
Did someone say mages can't be nobles? In which case, I hope Hawke san regain his nobility, to the point of being king. He likely won't end up as king, but that's what I want.
Anyway, you couldn't become king consort or queen if you were mage.
Wereparrot wrote...
Osena109 wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
Hawke is of noble blood.
no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood hawke is long awited common origin story
Did someone say mages can't be nobles? In which case, I hope Hawke san regain his nobility, to the point of being king. He likely won't end up as king, but that's what I want.
Yeah... Kirkwall is pretty much ruled by Templars nowadays.Great_Horn wrote...
Wereparrot wrote...
Osena109 wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
Hawke is of noble blood.
no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood hawke is long awited common origin story
Did someone say mages can't be nobles? In which case, I hope Hawke san regain his nobility, to the point of being king. He likely won't end up as king, but that's what I want.
As far as I know, no mage has ever been king in Ferelden. I’m not sure how things are in Kirkwall, hence as the former rulers – the Tevinter Imperium – Hawke as a Mage maybe could be King.
Modifié par Risax, 06 janvier 2011 - 04:41 .
Risax wrote...
Does the Champion of Kirkwall have any political power in Kirkwall? Or is he mostly there to protect and serve the people of Kirkwall?
If you do unite the Free Marches for battle,then you might have some power. I just hope you will not be part of some nobles scheme, and you end up getting stabbed in the back like Anora did to your Warden in Origins
Hmmm...I don't know if Flemeth manipulating Hawke is neccesarly a bad thing,I have the feeling she wants Hawke to become Champion, and she might even assist him in becoming Champion.AngelicMachinery wrote...
Risax wrote...
Does the Champion of Kirkwall have any political power in Kirkwall? Or is he mostly there to protect and serve the people of Kirkwall?
If you do unite the Free Marches for battle,then you might have some power. I just hope you will not be part of some nobles scheme, and you end up getting stabbed in the back like Anora did to your Warden in Origins
It is impossible to answer this question without playing, though it does seem possible that someone is trying to manipulate you. (Flemeth) If course it might not work.
Risax wrote...
Hmmm...I don't know if Flemeth manipulating Hawke is neccesarly a bad thing,I have the feeling she wants Hawke to become Champion, and she might even assist him in becoming Champion.AngelicMachinery wrote...
Risax wrote...
Does the Champion of Kirkwall have any political power in Kirkwall? Or is he mostly there to protect and serve the people of Kirkwall?
If you do unite the Free Marches for battle,then you might have some power. I just hope you will not be part of some nobles scheme, and you end up getting stabbed in the back like Anora did to your Warden in Origins
It is impossible to answer this question without playing, though it does seem possible that someone is trying to manipulate you. (Flemeth) If course it might not work.
But as I mentioned before, if he becomes Champion he might gain land and titles like some knights did.
Wereparrot wrote...
AlexXIV wrote...
Wereparrot wrote...
Osena109 wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
Hawke is of noble blood.
no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood hawke is long awited common origin story
Did someone say mages can't be nobles? In which case, I hope Hawke san regain his nobility, to the point of being king. He likely won't end up as king, but that's what I want.
Anyway, you couldn't become king consort or queen if you were mage.
Only because you weren't a noble to begin with.
Well she already knew about the Blight during the "Stolen Throne", or maybe even longer.AlexXIV wrote...
Obvioulsy big events cast their shadows in Dragon Age 2. Whatever that means. Origins was sort of an introduction and I think the Blight plays a major role. If Flemeth planned anything for centuries she probably waited for the Blight to happen to get things into motion. And the next step after getting the Warden to work for her, it is probably Hawke's turn. For the good or ill. Eventually I think the fate of all of Thedas is at stake. If not in DA2 then the next one. Which suggests Hawke will not only be important for Kirkwall and the Free Marches but for all of Thedas.
Modifié par Risax, 06 janvier 2011 - 05:02 .
hhh89 wrote...
Risax wrote...
Hmmm...I don't know if Flemeth manipulating Hawke is neccesarly a bad thing,I have the feeling she wants Hawke to become Champion, and she might even assist him in becoming Champion.AngelicMachinery wrote...
Risax wrote...
Does the Champion of Kirkwall have any political power in Kirkwall? Or is he mostly there to protect and serve the people of Kirkwall?
If you do unite the Free Marches for battle,then you might have some power. I just hope you will not be part of some nobles scheme, and you end up getting stabbed in the back like Anora did to your Warden in Origins
It is impossible to answer this question without playing, though it does seem possible that someone is trying to manipulate you. (Flemeth) If course it might not work.
But as I mentioned before, if he becomes Champion he might gain land and titles like some knights did.
I think that even if the title of Champion would give Hawke power, I don't believe we can gain land. Kirkwall is a city, I don't know if the nobles here based their power in lands or in a economical way.
Elfman wrote...
Wereparrot wrote...
AlexXIV wrote...
Wereparrot wrote...
Osena109 wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
Hawke is of noble blood.
no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood hawke is long awited common origin story
Did someone say mages can't be nobles? In which case, I hope Hawke san regain his nobility, to the point of being king. He likely won't end up as king, but that's what I want.
Anyway, you couldn't become king consort or queen if you were mage.
Only because you weren't a noble to begin with.
No, the Human Mage Warden was nobility, but they lost their nobility when they were taken to the Tower. Technically, mages can be nobles so long as they aren't given to the Tower or anyone finds out since I doubt people'll want a mage with anymore power. I'm not sure if Hawke actually does come from a long line of mages. The only confirmed mages are Hawke's father and Human Mage Warden who's probably not exactly a close relative.
Risax wrote...
Well she already knew about the Blight during the "Stolen Throne", or maybe even longer.AlexXIV wrote...
Obvioulsy big events cast their shadows in Dragon Age 2. Whatever that means. Origins was sort of an introduction and I think the Blight plays a major role. If Flemeth planned anything for centuries she probably waited for the Blight to happen to get things into motion. And the next step after getting the Warden to work for her, it is probably Hawke's turn. For the good or ill. Eventually I think the fate of all of Thedas is at stake. If not in DA2 then the next one. Which suggests Hawke will not only be important for Kirkwall and the Free Marches but for all of Thedas.
If the Blight truly set somthing into motion,do you think all the heroes that change the world will come from Ferelden? I mean there must be a lot of refugees and I doubt they all went to Kirkwall.
Either that, or Flemeth knew someone would slay her. And there must be other daughters she can posses. Like the one in Antiva Zevran talks about. And then she will find sombody there for her plans.
EDIT:@Elfman.
According to the Staff of Parlathan's description magic has always run strong in the Hawke family.
Modifié par AlexXIV, 06 janvier 2011 - 05:09 .
AlexXIV wrote...
Risax wrote...
Well she already knew about the Blight during the "Stolen Throne", or maybe even longer.AlexXIV wrote...
Obvioulsy big events cast their shadows in Dragon Age 2. Whatever that means. Origins was sort of an introduction and I think the Blight plays a major role. If Flemeth planned anything for centuries she probably waited for the Blight to happen to get things into motion. And the next step after getting the Warden to work for her, it is probably Hawke's turn. For the good or ill. Eventually I think the fate of all of Thedas is at stake. If not in DA2 then the next one. Which suggests Hawke will not only be important for Kirkwall and the Free Marches but for all of Thedas.
If the Blight truly set somthing into motion,do you think all the heroes that change the world will come from Ferelden? I mean there must be a lot of refugees and I doubt they all went to Kirkwall.
Either that, or Flemeth knew someone would slay her. And there must be other daughters she can posses. Like the one in Antiva Zevran talks about. And then she will find sombody there for her plans.
EDIT:@Elfman.
According to the Staff of Parlathan's description magic has always run strong in the Hawke family.
No I think Hawke only came from Ferelden to make a connection with Origins. He could probably be from anywhere in theory. Hawke could be from a family though that Flemeth always had some sort of relation to. If she lived for centuries and considering her rather deceptive nature could be the reason why magic is strong in Hawke's family. Or she could at least have supported the family to keep it strong.
Modifié par Risax, 06 janvier 2011 - 07:07 .
That seems the most logical.Great_Horn wrote...
I guess in the middle of the game. Similar to DA:O.
Risax wrote...
That seems the most logical.Great_Horn wrote...
I guess in the middle of the game. Similar to DA:O.
You are busy doing whatever in Kirkwall untill you gain a name for yourself, then something big happens and the people of the city call upon you for help. You save the city and become Champion.
And at the second half of the game.
You probably prepare for that war Cassandra was talking about.
If Hawke is so important to stop a war going on all over Thedas, then his actions in Kirkwall must have been important.hhh89 wrote...
Risax wrote...
That seems the most logical.Great_Horn wrote...
I guess in the middle of the game. Similar to DA:O.
You are busy doing whatever in Kirkwall untill you gain a name for yourself, then something big happens and the people of the city call upon you for help. You save the city and become Champion.
And at the second half of the game.
You probably prepare for that war Cassandra was talking about.
I don't believe that the war Cassandra is talking about is related to Hawke in the sense that Hawke has an active role in it. I believe Cassandra wants to understund Hawke's action in order to stop/prevent the war that is coming over Thedas.
Risax wrote...
If Hawke is so important to stop a war going on all over Thedas, then his actions in Kirkwall must have been important.hhh89 wrote...
Risax wrote...
That seems the most logical.Great_Horn wrote...
I guess in the middle of the game. Similar to DA:O.
You are busy doing whatever in Kirkwall untill you gain a name for yourself, then something big happens and the people of the city call upon you for help. You save the city and become Champion.
And at the second half of the game.
You probably prepare for that war Cassandra was talking about.
I don't believe that the war Cassandra is talking about is related to Hawke in the sense that Hawke has an active role in it. I believe Cassandra wants to understund Hawke's action in order to stop/prevent the war that is coming over Thedas.
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