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BTW if Hawke is a descendant from Parthalan, the mage who helped long ago to unite Ferelden under the rule of King Calenhad than there is some connection to Flemeth as well. With could be a hint why Flemeth picked Hawke.

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Great_Horn wrote...

BTW if Hawke is a descendant from Parthalan, the mage who helped long ago to unite Ferelden under the rule of King Calenhad than there is some connection to Flemeth as well. With could be a hint why Flemeth picked Hawke.

...It could indeed.
If anyone was to help mages, or whatever the confllict is about, then it is logical that she picked someone from a long line of mages. And being a mage him/herself, or has a mage as a sister.

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*pointless speculation*

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Well we know from the actual timeline that the current ruler of Kirkwall is Lord Viscount Marlowe Dumar. IMO a puppet and the Templars the real puppet player.



BTW: The former ruler of Kirkwall tries to get rid from the Templars with the result that he was killed by the Templars “for the good of all.”



After Dumar gets killed, he will be replaced by Hawke. This will be the point when things get ugly …and the seething conflict between templars and mages escalates.


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Great_Horn wrote...

Well we know from the actual timeline that the current ruler of Kirkwall is Lord Viscount Marlowe Dumar. IMO a puppet and the Templars the real puppet player.

BTW: The former ruler of Kirkwall tries to get rid from the Templars with the result that he was killed by the Templars “for the good of all.”

After Dumar gets killed, he will be replaced by Hawke. This will be the point when things get ugly …and the seething conflict between templars and mages escalates.

I don't think Hawke can become Viscount, he might have a hand in picking a new Viscount though.

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Risax wrote...

Great_Horn wrote...

Well we know from the actual timeline that the current ruler of Kirkwall is Lord Viscount Marlowe Dumar. IMO a puppet and the Templars the real puppet player.

BTW: The former ruler of Kirkwall tries to get rid from the Templars with the result that he was killed by the Templars “for the good of all.”

After Dumar gets killed, he will be replaced by Hawke. This will be the point when things get ugly …and the seething conflict between templars and mages escalates.

I don't think Hawke can become Viscount, he might have a hand in picking a new Viscount though.


Infact he becomes the Champion, not the Viscount:P seriously, I believe that is impossible right now to know what we can became in DA2, except being named Champion. From what we know "Champion" could be a qunari title, given by them because we became the Champion of the Qun, and helped them to conquer Kirkwall.

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hhh89 wrote...

Risax wrote...

Great_Horn wrote...

Well we know from the actual timeline that the current ruler of Kirkwall is Lord Viscount Marlowe Dumar. IMO a puppet and the Templars the real puppet player.

BTW: The former ruler of Kirkwall tries to get rid from the Templars with the result that he was killed by the Templars “for the good of all.”

After Dumar gets killed, he will be replaced by Hawke. This will be the point when things get ugly …and the seething conflict between templars and mages escalates.

I don't think Hawke can become Viscount, he might have a hand in picking a new Viscount though.


Infact he becomes the Champion, not the Viscount:P seriously, I believe that is impossible right now to know what we can became in DA2, except being named Champion. From what we know "Champion" could be a qunari title, given by them because we became the Champion of the Qun, and helped them to conquer Kirkwall.






I missed that Image IPB. He is truly “only” the Champion of Kirkwall Image IPB. We don’t know if there is a position at court related.
I find it hard to believe that Hawke could support the qunaris, but still this possibility exists, hence I´m not sure if he would believe the qunaris, according to risk the safety of this family therefor.

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Great_Horn wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Risax wrote...

Great_Horn wrote...

Well we know from the actual timeline that the current ruler of Kirkwall is Lord Viscount Marlowe Dumar. IMO a puppet and the Templars the real puppet player.

BTW: The former ruler of Kirkwall tries to get rid from the Templars with the result that he was killed by the Templars “for the good of all.”

After Dumar gets killed, he will be replaced by Hawke. This will be the point when things get ugly …and the seething conflict between templars and mages escalates.

I don't think Hawke can become Viscount, he might have a hand in picking a new Viscount though.


Infact he becomes the Champion, not the Viscount:P seriously, I believe that is impossible right now to know what we can became in DA2, except being named Champion. From what we know "Champion" could be a qunari title, given by them because we became the Champion of the Qun, and helped them to conquer Kirkwall.






I missed that Image IPB. He is truly “only” the Champion of Kirkwall Image IPB. We don’t know if there is a position at court related.
I find it hard to believe that Hawke could support the qunaris, but still this possibility exists, hence I´m not sure if he would believe the qunaris, according to risk the safety of this family therefor.


I don't believe it too, I was just saying that from what we know that's a possibility, qunari are surely a faction in the game, although we don't know how relevant.
The only thing I want is the possibity to side with different factions, whoever they are qunari, Tevinter or some kind of rebels, as well as the Chantry and the Templars. I believe that this could add a lot replayability at the game.

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Definitely! Image IPB

Hence an intervention from the Tevinter Imperium would be a big surprise, but a real twist. If I had to bet on a thir party, I will go with Orlais cause they got the manpower to do so.

Modifié par Great_Horn, 06 janvier 2011 - 09:04 .


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Great_Horn wrote...




Definitely! Image IPB

Hence an intervention from the Tevinter Imperium would be a big surprise, but a real twist. If I had to bet on a thir party, I will go with Orlais cause they got the manpower to do so.


Yes, Orlais is a more logical than Tevinter, or maybe Nevarra. If Hawke's makes Kirkwall more powerful (or unyfying the Free Marches) Nevarra will surely not hold back, it could be seen as a threat to its power. Maybe this is the reason becuase Cassandra is interrogating Varric, she's a Chantry Seeker but also a member of the Pentaghast family, the ruler (or royal) family of Nevarra

Modifié par hhh89, 06 janvier 2011 - 09:16 .


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Hopefully to the skies..........

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annihilator27 wrote...

Hopefully to the skies..........

I'd settle for toppling a few empires.

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marshalleck wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

Hopefully to the skies..........

I'd settle for toppling a few empires.

And shoot lightning at fools?

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According to this article: http://greywardens.c...-2-why-be-good/
you have a bigger chance of being evil in DA 2, I wonder if this does indeed give you the chance of ruling Kirkwall.

Modifié par Risax, 08 janvier 2011 - 06:01 .


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I demand no less than Supreme Archmagus of Thedas. The Templars will be used for fertilizer, and the Grand Cleric will be required polish my staff at least twice a day. While I sit in my throne room with my pet High Dragon, and drink wine out of a hollowed out Qunari horn.

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Eclipse_9990 wrote...

I demand no less than Supreme Archmagus of Thedas. The Templars will be used for fertilizer, and the Grand Cleric will be required polish my staff at least twice a day. While I sit in my throne room with my pet High Dragon, and drink wine out of a hollowed out Qunari horn.

I wanted my first playthrough to be a Good leaning to Evil Rogue.
But with the default Hawke being a (Blood) Mage, I want to play an Evil Blood Mage more and more.

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Do you think that according to class Hawke picks and whose side he picks the rise to power will be different?
For example, if you pick to play as a mage. But side with the Chantry, then do you think that the Templars in Kirkwall will go easier on the Mage's?

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Like I asked before, does the title of Champion of Kirkwall give Hawke any political power?
What I really liked in Awakening was that you could judge people in Vigils Keep, and later figured out that the person you judged started an order of knights. So I hope we get something simmilair in Dragon Age 2.

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I plan on makeing a Evil blood mage who will destroy the chantry at all costs and is rise to power will be that of destroying the chantry. However since there are no real details who knows, maybe we will be forced to help them thats why I dont get on the fourms alot its too early.

Modifié par JohnCena94, 09 janvier 2011 - 02:13 .


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JohnCena94 wrote...

I plan on makeing a Evil blood mage who will destroy the chantry at all costs and is rise to power will be that of destroying the chantry. However since there are no real details who knows, maybe we will be forced to help them thats why I dont get on the fourms alot its too early.

I don't know what I'm gonna do yet, I'm planning to play a good character with evil tendencies.
Like with my Human Noble Rogue. I helped Zathrian to kill Witherfang, but seeing how much his hatred corrupted him I killed him since his first knew what to do with Witherfang.

That is another thing I wonder about.
I mean Hawke is Champion, can he help out the Antivan Crows for example? Or steal from the Nobles?
The Warden could do those things, but he was in the middle of a Blight and the country at war. So people had some bigger things to worry about. But will  side-quests like that affect Hawke's reputation?

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marshalleck wrote...

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Hawke is of noble blood.


no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood  hawke is long awited common  origin story

You're wrong. Hawke's mother's family is nobility in Kirkwall, or somewhere in the Free Marches. Hawke's mage ancestry is patrilineal. 

Well, the human mage in Origins comes from the same family tree as momma Hawke.


I thought it was stated that Hawke's father comes from a long line of mages.


What's that? Do i smell the plot thickening?

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TwistedComplex wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hawke is of noble blood.


no he's got a long line of Mages in his family tree and meges can't hold a title so he is not or noble blood  hawke is long awited common  origin story

You're wrong. Hawke's mother's family is nobility in Kirkwall, or somewhere in the Free Marches. Hawke's mage ancestry is patrilineal. 

Well, the human mage in Origins comes from the same family tree as momma Hawke.


I thought it was stated that Hawke's father comes from a long line of mages.


What's that? Do i smell the plot thickening?

Well I did hear somewhere that you could figure out the Amell and Hawke history in Kirkwall, but that might have been a rumour.

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Amell has an history in Kirkwall, but if you don't know anything, I don't say more. The Hawke family is from Ferelden, and descend indeed from a long line of mages. It's writtend in the Staff of Parthalan page.

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Amell has an history in Kirkwall, but if you don't know anything, I don't say more. The Hawke family is from Ferelden, and descend indeed from a long line of mages. It's writtend in the Staff of Parthalan page.

Yes, but after Calenhad had united Ferelden, Parlathan just...dissapeard.
And since Hawke's father came from the Kirkwall, Parlathan probably went to Parlathan.

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Risax wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Amell has an history in Kirkwall, but if you don't know anything, I don't say more. The Hawke family is from Ferelden, and descend indeed from a long line of mages. It's writtend in the Staff of Parthalan page.

Yes, but after Calenhad had united Ferelden, Parlathan just...dissapeard.
And since Hawke's father came from the Kirkwall, Parlathan probably went to Parlathan.


Who said Hawke's father came from Kirkwall? I remember that Hawke's father is from Ferelden. Hawke's mother is from Kirkwall (or at least some relatives) but the Hawke are Fereldan.