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[Harid]

soteria wrote...

Harid wrote...
Anecdotal evidence is Anecdotal. Who cares? Apparently you do, though, you couldn't care less about his version of anecdotal evidence posted earlier in this thread.

My point was that anecdotal evidence can't be used to disprove the existence of something. You essentially said, "I've never seen such a neighborhood in Manhattan, so it doesn't exist." Of course, it's always tough to prove the nonexistence of something, but saying "I never saw it" is inconclusive and pretty unconvincing as an argument.

dzizass wrote...
And Europe is probably the most culturally diversified continent: compare Greek culture to Norwegian or Russian to Portugese... Not much in common.

In fact, some of them would be pretty offended if you lumped them all together as we've seen in this thread.

You understand he used the same argument earlier in the thread, and i was using anecdotal evidence in the same way, right?

[PrinceOfFallout13]

my mom is white my dad is black and i have taino blood so i have 3 different races in me and dont get or will never understand this issue it reminds me of the whole re5 is racist because theres only black people in a village in africa

[upsettingshorts]

Harid wrote...

Duncan is half Riviani, and isn't a good representation of what they look like.  I could post a picture of Barack Obama, and I would not use him as a representation of what white people look like, for instance.

I'm not trying to argue that, ultimately, all Rivaini people must look like Duncan and Isabela.  Just that, so far, those two are the only indication of what your "typical Rivaini" look like.  Assuming that they are representative is reasonable, but not absolute.

[Morroian]

Ninja Mage wrote...

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

Remember these countries don't EXIST in Thedas. So in a way there is no African/Black, nor European.

You are absolutely right, which Makes Upsetting Shorts argument totally baseless.

<whoosh!>

[AlexXIV]

Harid wrote...

The PC term would be mixed race or mixed ethnicity.

Alright I try to remember that

[upsettingshorts]

Ninja Mage wrote...

You are absolutely right, which Makes Upsetting Shorts argument totally baseless.

I can't decide if I should be amused or angry.

Morroian wrote...

<whoosh!>

You're right.  I'm going to go with amused.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 05 janvier 2011 - 12:09 .

[PsychoBlonde]

Maria Caliban wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

People seem to forget that calls for racial diversity is ALSO a racist position...

This parses at about the same as, "People seem to forget that asking for ice cream is lactose intolerant..."

Sorry, calls for racial diversity ARE racist.    Just drop-kick that grammar right out the window . . .

[Ninja Mage]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

Why can't she be black? There is NOTHING in the game saying Rivaini don't have black features.

Because she doesn't look West African?  Or East African... or Central African.  She looks North African.  North Africans share some features with other Africans, and share other features with Southern Europeans.  That's a simplification, but I really have a hard time understanding what you're ultimately trying to get at.

Ninja Mage wrote...

The current in game picture of Isabela looks like a british person with really wierd skin. There's nothing ethnic or diverse about her

This is the same thinking that leads people to say "All (blank) people look alike."  That's why every time you post on this train of thought I have to restrain myself from erupting in anger and frustration. 

Her ethnicity is Rivaini.  Rivaini look like Isabela and Duncan.  Her culture is Rivaini.  That is distinct from the rest of Thedas. 

I never said all Europeans are alike. God Dammit. I said that I want DIVERSE people in the game. Ofcourse she doesn't look West African thats why I even brough up the point. She SHOULD. She is form a culture with dark skin, and most cultures with dark skin have different features and clothing. She is not diverse in this respect, and just looks like a random European with mixed features. That's not what I'm advocating for in this thread. You may be fine with it, but I want to see something MORE inclusive than that.

[AlexXIV]

PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...

my mom is white my dad is black and i have taino blood so i have 3 different races in me and dont get or will never understand this issue it reminds me of the whole re5 is racist because theres only black people in a village in africa

lol couldn't agree more buddy

[Sylvius the Mad]

Dhiro wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I love you, Stan.

Now, go get your hug on.

I think my brain is broken.

Can I get a hug too?

Only from Stan.

His hugs are legendary.

[Harid]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

People seem to forget that calls for racial diversity is ALSO a racist position...

This parses at about the same as, "People seem to forget that asking for ice cream is lactose intolerant..."

Sorry, calls for racial diversity ARE racist.    Just drop-kick that grammar right out the window . . .

No, it isn't, but keep trying to throw poor argument out there, and try to catch more flies with it.

AlexXIV wrote...

PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...

my
mom is white my dad is black and i have taino blood so i have 3
different races in me and dont get or will never understand this issue
it reminds me of the whole re5 is racist because theres only black
people in a village in africa

lol couldn't agree more buddy

To this day, i will never understand how people could completely ignore the symbolism, and come to the conclusion that people said RE5 was racist because it was "only black people in a village in africa".  I blame our public schools.  I'll head down this tangent in PM's though.

Modifié par Harid, 05 janvier 2011 - 12:13 .

[Ninja Mage]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Harid wrote...

Duncan is half Riviani, and isn't a good representation of what they look like.  I could post a picture of Barack Obama, and I would not use him as a representation of what white people look like, for instance.

I'm not trying to argue that, ultimately, all Rivaini people must look like Duncan

Bull****. Just say it.

[upsettingshorts]

Ninja Mage wrote...

I never said all Europeans are alike. God Dammit. I said that I want DIVERSE people in the game. Ofcourse she doesn't look West African thats why I even brough up the point. She SHOULD.

So she's... not black enough?

Ninja Mage wrote...

She is form a culture with dark skin, and most cultures with dark skin have different features and clothing.

How many pantsless people did you see in Ferelden?  How about ones who wore an extensive amount of jewelry and thigh-high boots?  Bandanas? 

Ninja Mage wrote...

That's not what I'm advocating for in this thread. You may be fine with it, but I want to see something MORE inclusive than that.

Saying, "I want to more diverse cultures in Dragon Age beyond the Rivaini" is not the same as "I want the Rivaini themselves to be more diverse."  The former is perfectly reasonable and I wouldn't argue with you.  The latter is rather, well... see the first part of this post.

[AngelicMachinery]

I'm not entirely sure why people are getting mad at upsetting shorts...

[Atakuma]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

I'm not entirely sure why people are getting mad at upsetting shorts...

it's the moustache

[upsettingshorts]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

I'm not entirely sure why people are getting mad at upsetting shorts...

I don't think Harid is getting mad at me.  He raised a solid point about how Duncan and Isabela aren't necessarily representative of what all ethnically Rivaini people look like.  And he's right.  I simply responded by saying the assumption is reasonable.

I really only see one person getting mad at me.

[Ninja Mage]

Because he's a ****** and he's not taking this seriously

[AngelicMachinery]

Atakuma wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

I'm not entirely sure why people are getting mad at upsetting shorts...

it's the moustache

I thought everyone loved Ron Swanson...

[Harid]

Ninja Mage wrote...

Because he's a ****** and he's not taking this seriously

To be fair the majority of the. . .well. . internet don't take this seriously, so yeah.  There are people still mad at N'Gai Croal for the RE5 debacle.  And the mods haven't banned Fortlowe for 4chaning the thread either.

Modifié par Harid, 05 janvier 2011 - 12:20 .

[Atakuma]

Ninja Mage wrote...

Because he's a ****** and he's not taking this seriously

You are the only one being rude here.

[upsettingshorts]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

I thought everyone loved Ron Swanson...

Some people know me as Duke Silver. 

[KhorinShizucor]

Ninja Mage wrote...

Because he's a ****** and he's not taking this seriously

You're just out to look for a fight, hence why you're calling him names. Upsettingshorts has been nothing but civil towards you.

[Cobrawar]

you all need to relax this isn't something to be mad about. Could proably be fixed a dozen different ways

Modifié par Cobrawar, 05 janvier 2011 - 12:18 .

[Fortlowe]

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 05 janvier 2011 - 12:26 .