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#3601
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MightyFavog wrote...

Trophonius wrote...
NOOOO, you must support Anders too! He's probably friendly under that psychotic demeanor and will be very much in need of some Garrett loving at the end of the day. Otherwise, our kitty farm dreams are going to be crushed :crying:


Oh, before my last post, I supported Anders. I very much supported Anders. He and MHawke were going to have a bad-fanfic-caliber romance, but now all I see is... Chevy Chase. :unsure: The cannibalism I can get past, but looking like a smarmy-ass 70s comedian? Deal is off.

...Maybe.


BRB, looking for another pic then. j/k

Aww, come on, he doesn't really look all that much like Chevy, tbh. I didn't even see a resemblance until it was mentioned. Anders is like, miles ahead in terms of attractiveness (I know he's just pixels, but still....^_^) so don't give up just yet!

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MightyFavog

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Blue_Shayde wrote...

Me to! Oh wait......already have it. nvm. ;P

THEY ALL BI. (or I swear, if I have to put up with Fenris adressing me as a female like I do with Alistair...)


Someone finally made a mod to fix that. Haven't had a chance to try it yet, though; my one male save is hopelessly in love with Leliana and I like her too much to break her heart.

So - bright side - if they aren't all bi (they are), we'll have a non-annoying solution within two years.

Trophonius wrote...

Aww, come on, he doesn't really look all that much like Chevy, tbh. I
didn't even see a resemblance until it was mentioned. Anders is like,
miles ahead in terms of attractiveness (I know he's just pixels, but
still....../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png) so don't give up just yet!


I'm mostly kidding. If Anders is available, I'm not going to pass him up. :P

Modifié par MightyFavog, 27 février 2011 - 05:30 .


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I have a male save mighty want me to try out the mod real fast and record it?

Modifié par Fenn , 27 février 2011 - 05:31 .


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LOL - was just thinking the same thing about Anders. And I don't see the Chevy Chase resemblance everyone was saying - but I do see a resemblance with his new voice actor - Adam Howden.... How ya doing Howden! Maybe I'm just a sucker for the British accent...

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Okay, I know it was a few pages back now and we all have attention deficit... Ooh! Shiny!

...Uh, sorry. Anyway, on the whole 'everyone is bi' thing, my biggest thing about the past games is that there is only one option if you're pursuing a same sex romance. If you don't want the one character you get, you have to go without. Meanwhile, straight romances have been gaining options. In Jade Empire, male players could have Dawn Star or Silk Fox. In Mass Effect, there was Ashley or Liara (and I don't CARE if asari are monogendered, they have boobs and no penis, close enough). In ME2, straights got three options for both genders. In DAO, it was Alistair or Zevran or Morrigan or Leliana. There's choice for the straight characters, but you're locked in if you want to play a gay character (or locked out entirely... Issue for another forum).

It may not be 'realistic' for there to be four bi love interests in the party, but frankly, when these are the only options, it's insulting to not be able to choose between possible romances when the straight characters can pick their choice.

As I've said repeatedly, if I'd had the choice, I would not have romanced Zevran. But I also don't like a celibate hero. I have this romantic notion of being able to fight back-to-back with the person I love on the battlefield, which means that I want someone to romance. So I romanced him, but he is not someone that I can justify romancing without meta-gaming, taking me out of the game. That is a bigger factor to taking me out of the experience than everyone being bi. So I support full bisexual love interests.

And it's not as much about them being bi in the first place. In fact, the way it comes to me is that it's not so much that they are straight unless you're into them but that they're not going to try to romance you unless you show an interest (Isabela aside). Not so much 'I'm straight unless you want me, Hawke,' but 'You're not interested in me, I'm not interested in you.'

Modifié par dgcatanisiri, 27 février 2011 - 05:35 .


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I'm seconding that Anders resembles Ryan Reynolds.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 27 février 2011 - 05:36 .


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For some reason that link absolutely refuses to work for me even though I'm logged in and my preferences are in order, but if it's the Equal Love mod, yeah, it works fine. I romanced Alistair with a male elf Warden and the animations looked fine, even. A couple of Alistair's dialogues are gender-specific, but it wasn't a dealbreaker for me.

Edit: Got it to load. Whoops! No, I have not tried that mod. If it does work, it looks like it probably provides an end result superior to Equal Love (if you're only interested in Alistair).

Modifié par Twofold Black, 27 février 2011 - 05:39 .


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Fenn wrote...

I have a male save mighty want me to try out the mod real fast and record it?


Can I steal your sig? It's lovely. :wub:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 février 2011 - 05:39 .


#3609
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dgcatanisiri wrote...

(lots of words, basic idea...all bi li supporter!)


Woohoo! Join the club! Feel free to add the sig below to your own signature. xD

MightyFavog wrote...

Someone finally made a mod
to fix that. Haven't had a chance to try it yet, though; my one male
save is hopelessly in love with Leliana and I like her too much to break
her heart.

So - bright side - if they aren't all bi (they are), we'll have a non-annoying solution within two years.

Thank you very much, Mightyfavog. I think I will give this mod a try. =) (And yes...so long as the rumor that BW isn't going to give us a mod program fro DA2 isn't true, there's always an equal love mod that'll sprout up sooner or later to fix things)

Ryzaki wrote...

Fenn wrote...

I have a male save mighty want me to try out the mod real fast and record it?


Can I steal your sig? It's lovely. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]

I second that request. :wub:

Modifié par Blue_Shayde, 27 février 2011 - 05:41 .


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RinjiRenee wrote...

I'm seconding that Anders resembles Ryan Reynolds.

:huh::mellow::):happy::lol::o.

#3611
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Ryzaki wrote...

Fenn wrote...

I have a male save mighty want me to try out the mod real fast and record it?


Can I steal your sig? It's lovely. :wub:


Lovely and totally bi.

#3612
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Welcome amongst us dgcatanisiri ^_^

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RinjiRenee wrote...

I'm seconding that Anders resembles Ryan Reynolds.


Holy--!

Wow, he does look like Ryan Reynolds. Posted Image Which is fantastic, because I find him absurdly attractive.

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So we can't link to pics anymore??

#3615
mesmerizedish

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Ninja Mage wrote...

So we can't link to pics anymore??


We can. Just not scans from magazines.

#3616
dgcatanisiri

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Guys, I've been amongst you for a while - I just haven't been able to get a word in edgewise. Check back a few dozen pages, you'll see my comments. They just get buried under everyone else's.

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Phate Phoenix wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

I'm seconding that Anders resembles Ryan Reynolds.


Holy--!

Wow, he does look like Ryan Reynolds. Posted Image Which is fantastic, because I find him absurdly attractive.


The guy is cute, definately. But Anders isn't to me. >_> Maybe if Anders had black hair like the guy in the picture, then maybe... (guess I'll be picking up a remake of Anders appearance when those start popping up. xD)

#3618
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Fenn wrote...

I have a male save mighty want me to try out the mod real fast and record it?


If you have the time, I'd certainly appreciate it, if only to see what the general quality is like. I'll probably give it a go on my third playthrough, even if it means creating a save that won't import properly into DA2.

Blue_Shayde wrote...

Thank you very much,
Mightyfavog. I think I will give this mod a try. =) (And yes...so long
as the rumor that BW isn't going to give us a mod program fro DA2 isn't
true, there's always an equal love mod that'll sprout up sooner or later
to fix things)


No trouble, and I certainly hope that rumor is untrue. <_<

Modifié par MightyFavog, 27 février 2011 - 05:45 .


#3619
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dgcatanisiri wrote...

Guys, I've been amongst you for a while - I just haven't been able to get a word in edgewise. Check back a few dozen pages, you'll see my comments. They just get buried under everyone else's.


In this case sorry, I didn't see, I joined recently:)

#3620
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Sheysira wrote...

I'm back and it says indeed expanded and the way they wrote it makes it clear to me that they consider Fenris a s/s love interest. There is a chance that they got it wrong and that it's just a flirtline that leads to nothing, but personally I doubt that.<br />
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There is a screenshot of Fenris sitting with Hawk at a table, and Fenris' subtitles read:<br />
Hätte ich gewusst, dass Anso einen derart fähigen Mann findet, hätte ich ihn vielleicht früher gebeten, sich umzusehen.<br />
Had I known that Anso would find such an able man, I might have asked him sooner to look.<br />
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The dialog wheel gives 3 options, it's set to the first one which displays the heart symbol.<br />
1. Ihr Schmeichler. / You flatterer.<br />
2.Ich helfe Euch gerne. / I'm glad to help you.<br />
3. Ich bin nicht interessiert. / I'm not interested.<br />
<br />
Under the screenshot the writer put this:<br />
Das Herz zeigt: Hawke und Fenris können eine romantische Unterhaltung beginnen. Die Optionen für gleichgeschlechtliche Liebe wurden aufgestockt.<br />
The heart shows: Hawke and Fenris can start a romantic concersation. The options for same sex love were expanded. <br />
<br />
(Hawke is the one who gets to say he's not interested!!! Of course, Fenris next line after that could be him saying he didn't mean it that way, but I think that would be waste of dialog content...)<br />
<br />
I found only one more thing in the article that could be interesting for this thread. Explaning the storytelling of the game and going on about how Varric narrates what's happening and how Kirkwall is changing over time according to one's decisions, they wrote this:<br />
"Depending on what you decide in key situations, which business and sexual partners you choose and on how you react in the mass of throughout excellent written respectively spoken dialogs, Varric describes your Hawke ultimately as celebrated folk hero or feared "Wutbürger" (This can't be translated, it's a weird newly created German fashion word, it means basically an angry citizen who's getting eager to protest and rebel because the political system sucks, according to wikipedia. I assume the author just wanted to use an interesting word.)<br />
This time the focus doesn't lie so much on description of epic battles, but the emotional believable tale of lusts and troubles of the playercharacters."<br />
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So much for "dumbing down the rpg and turning it into a hack n' slash fest. *does a happy dance*<br />
The LIs seem to play a more impotant role this time and just maybe that and the "expanded options" are part of the reason the LI details are such a mystery. <br />
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It still Fenris. I am very glad. So long for 8.:devil:

#3621
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dgcatanisiri wrote...

Guys, I've been amongst you for a while - I just haven't been able to get a word in edgewise. Check back a few dozen pages, you'll see my comments. They just get buried under everyone else's.


You clearly just weren't shouting "They're all bi!" loudly enough :P

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

So we can't link to pics anymore??


We can. Just not scans from magazines.



Oh ok. I'm working on my last Anders/Fenris pic now :)Posted Image

#3623
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They're all bi :o

#3624
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...*ahem* No they aren't all bi.

*holds up pessimistic shield*

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Blue_Shayde wrote...

Phate Phoenix wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

I'm seconding that Anders resembles Ryan Reynolds.


Holy--!

Wow, he does look like Ryan Reynolds. Posted Image Which is fantastic, because I find him absurdly attractive.


The guy is cute, definately. But Anders isn't to me. >_> Maybe if Anders had black hair like the guy in the picture, then maybe... (guess I'll be picking up a remake of Anders appearance when those start popping up. xD)


Actually, Ryan Reynolds has more auburn-colored hair irl. That's a major plus to me, and something Anders shares.