HopHazzard wrote...
@elirian I respect that you're done, but I'm just going to say: Do you think the people who wrote the Alistair romance so that he would dump you in the end unless you were human are now above writing pointless and cruel romance lines?
Modifié par LiaraShepard, 27 février 2011 - 04:46 .
Saibh wrote...
LiaraShepard wrote...
My thoughts exactly. we know it goes nowhere when flirting with aveline so that we don't assume something special when trying it. But as for the 4 confirmed romances we expect more than just pseudo-flirtlines. And it would be a bit too much effort to give all characters pseudo flirt answers when it leads nowhere, don't you think?
Why are you assuming that everyone knows who the LIs are? It's not pointless or cruel, it's to allow your Hawke to like whomever he or she likes.
Asking why this is allowed if it leads to no where is like asking why so many games have flavor dialogue that doesn't actually change the outcome.
Modifié par LiaraShepard, 27 février 2011 - 04:53 .
elirian_19 wrote...
EDIT: Anyway, I'm done arguing about this. The back and forth exchange is getting exhausting. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sideways.png[/smilie]
Modifié par LukaCrosszeria, 27 février 2011 - 04:54 .
LiaraShepard wrote...
I don't know anything, but I just can't imagine there are flirtlines with straight people. I mean, DA:O didn't have anything like that. Okay, maybe this game will have these things, but then again, we should also be able to persuade them (though it might be not that easy), because it wouldn't be much more effort than giving all straight characters flirtlines with male or female Hawke.
Modifié par Saibh, 27 février 2011 - 04:58 .
LukaCrosszeria wrote...
Me too, I'm sick of it. I've also noticed we're not having a discussion about m/m romances DAII style, only about who they are.
I wonder how the romances will be handled. As much as I liked Zevran, I would prefer it if the m/m doesn't take men as second best because he actually prefers women. Also Zevran's angle was that he was raised with an open mind so to speak (that being the explanation why he's unabashed about expressing his interest). I'd like a guy who wasn't raised that way but still knows what he likes.
Modifié par Incantrix, 27 février 2011 - 05:05 .
A mess.Incantrix wrote...
So...what did I miss?
Saibh wrote...
LiaraShepard wrote...
I don't know anything, but I just can't imagine there are flirtlines with straight people. I mean, DA:O didn't have anything like that. Okay, maybe this game will have these things, but then again, we should also be able to persuade them (though it might be not that easy), because it wouldn't be much more effort than giving all straight characters flirtlines with male or female Hawke.
You also weren't allowed to flirt with anyone who didn't reciprocate. We know for a fact you can in DAII. They've added a new roleplaying angle.
And it's completely ridiculous to be able to "persuade" someone into being your sexuality. Sexuality isn't hair dye, you don't try it on an decide whether it suits you.
And it would be much more difficult--they'd have to add two extra branches for each LI to be bisexual.
Modifié par LiaraShepard, 27 février 2011 - 05:02 .
catabuca wrote...
LukaCrosszeria wrote...
Me too, I'm sick of it. I've also noticed we're not having a discussion about m/m romances DAII style, only about who they are.
I wonder how the romances will be handled. As much as I liked Zevran, I would prefer it if the m/m doesn't take men as second best because he actually prefers women. Also Zevran's angle was that he was raised with an open mind so to speak (that being the explanation why he's unabashed about expressing his interest). I'd like a guy who wasn't raised that way but still knows what he likes.
Yes, it would be nice to have a confident guy who doesn't have to find an excuse for why he likes men. Being gay/bi needs no explanation. It simply is.
Saibh wrote...
LiaraShepard wrote...
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I mean, DA:O didn't have anything like that. Okay, maybe this game will have these things, but then again, we should also be able to persuade them (though it might be not that easy), because it wouldn't be much more effort than giving all straight characters flirtlines with male or female Hawke.
You also weren't allowed to flirt with anyone who didn't reciprocate. We know for a fact you can in DAII. They've added a new roleplaying angle.
And it's completely ridiculous to be able to "persuade" someone into being your sexuality. Sexuality isn't hair dye, you don't try it on and decide whether it suits you.
And it would be much more difficult--they'd have to add two extra branches for each LI to be bisexual.
Greer wrote...
You could flirt with people and have it go nowhere, though. Teagan, Bella (the tavern girl in Redcliffe), and Kaitlyn come immediately to mind.
Personally, I'd much rather the characters come how they are (gay, straight, bi) and be able to flirt with them all and have the ones who aren't interested shut me down. I do realize, though, that my opinion is solely my own and that I'm most likely in the minority.
Modifié par Greer, 27 février 2011 - 05:10 .
Modifié par Nefarious Asparagus, 27 février 2011 - 05:12 .
Greer wrote...
I'll take your word for it. I only ever tried Teagan with a female and Bella and Kaitlyn with a male. I haven't tried either of the females with a female or Teagan with a male yet.
Saibh wrote...
But they did reciprocate. You couldn't flirt with anyone who didn't. That's my point.
I guess I was seeing "reciprocate" differently from how you intended. I keep seeing people all over the forums saying "You couldn't flirt with people who weren't LIs in Origins" or similar things, when that clearly wasn't so. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
mmm, in the Human Noble background, in Highever, I think you could flirt with the female elf in the beginning with your female Cousland.elirian_19 wrote...
Greer wrote...
I'll take your word for it. I only ever tried Teagan with a female and Bella and Kaitlyn with a male. I haven't tried either of the females with a female or Teagan with a male yet.
You couldn't flirt with the girls as a female. Same goes for Teagan - only females could get him to open up.
The cake is a lie.Nefarious Asparagus wrote...
I mean, the fact that I, nine times out of ten, prefer cake to pie doesn't mean I'm never going to eat pie for the rest of my life or that there aren't types of pie I quite like. At the same time, the fact that I like a couple pies does not in any way mean that my liking of pie is even remotely equal to my love of cake. I'm still a cake lover, when all is said and done.
Greer wrote...
Yeah, both Dairren (the human) and Iona (the elf) are open to both genders of Cousland.
Modifié par LiaraShepard, 27 février 2011 - 05:28 .
arcane-weirdo wrote...
The cake is a lie.Nefarious Asparagus wrote...
I mean, the fact that I, nine times out of ten, prefer cake to pie doesn't mean I'm never going to eat pie for the rest of my life or that there aren't types of pie I quite like. At the same time, the fact that I like a couple pies does not in any way mean that my liking of pie is even remotely equal to my love of cake. I'm still a cake lover, when all is said and done.
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Nefarious Asparagus wrote...
This is pretty late, but I think the people pulling out the "realism" argument are not taking into account that there is a difference between being bisexual and being flexible. Being gay or straight doesn't necessarily mean 100% exclusivity. I've known lesbians and gay men who have experienced occasional attraction to the opposite gender (hell, the man even happily married said woman) as well as straight people who have experienced attraction to the same, and that doesn't invalidate their preference (which is just that, a preference) or their identity as gay or straight.
I mean, the fact that I, nine times out of ten, prefer cake to pie doesn't mean I'm never going to eat pie for the rest of my life or that there aren't types of pie I quite like. At the same time, the fact that I like a couple pies does not in any way mean that my liking of pie is even remotely equal to my love of cake. I'm still a cake lover, when all is said and done.
I think there being four members of your party who are flexible but not necessarily bisexual is well within the realm of probability. And I hope there are. Crow will never have tasted so delicious.
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