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[Saibh]

Ryzaki wrote...

Ah. Well if Anders is the bi option I hope he's not the one (if there's one) who can only be romanced on a certain path. That would really suck.

I don't think they said you couldn't romance them if you were on one path, but that it wouldn't change.

[Trophonius]

Ryzaki wrote...

I do wonder what happens if you choose to encourage Ander's vengeance. Will Vengeance eventually swallow him whole? Will Vengeance simply leave after the Chantry is destroyed? Or will the two of them merge into a completely new being?

Now those are some really good questions.

#1 scenario sounds absolutely dreadful. I wouldn't want that to happen to Anders because that would force us to kill him. I don't want a dead as a doornail Anders in my game

#2 scenario is the best scenario. He lives and continues on.

#3 scenario sounds interesting, but has terrifying implications. He could potentially evolve into a Flemeth type of character or even an.....Old God! We know Flemeth used to be a human mage herself, but is a completely different being now. The thought of that happening to Anders is pretty scary. You don't know if he has the capacity to bring the world to ruin

[Bradley McCloud]

I do not want my LI to fall into emo mode. I'm slap it out of him.

[Ryzaki]

Saibh wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Ah. Well if Anders is the bi option I hope he's not the one (if there's one) who can only be romanced on a certain path. That would really suck.

I don't think they said you couldn't romance them if you were on one path, but that it wouldn't change.

 

Ah okay. So friendship with Anders involves devouring poor Templars. If that's actally the case I might romance him with my psychotic blood mage 

[Narwool]

I think there was an interview that said certain romances were only available on a rivalry path. Don't know if that means romances will only be instigated on that path for some LI's, or if romances will change depending on the path.

[Bradley McCloud]

I thought Devs claimed that you can romance Rivals too. Or were they lying?

[Blue_Shayde]

Trophonius wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I do wonder what happens if you choose to encourage Ander's vengeance. Will Vengeance eventually swallow him whole? Will Vengeance simply leave after the Chantry is destroyed? Or will the two of them merge into a completely new being?

Now those are some really good questions.

#1 scenario sounds absolutely dreadful. I wouldn't want that to happen to Anders because that would force us to kill him. I don't want a dead as a doornail Anders in my game

#2 scenario is the best scenario. He lives and continues on.

#3 scenario sounds interesting, but has terrifying implications. He could potentially evolve into a Flemeth type of character or even an.....Old God! We know Flemeth used to be a human mage herself, but is a completely different being now. The thought of that happening to Anders is pretty scary. You don't know if he has the capacity to bring the world to ruin

*GASP* The plot for DA3. You play as *Morrigan's child in order to defeat Anders who has become the first human mage to become a tainted Archdemon, the most powerful one to, that plans to destroy the world!!! Worse...Flemeth sides with Anders vs you sided by your mother, Morrigan.

Old God vs Newish Old God!! 

*Edited. xD

Modifié par Blue_Shayde, 28 février 2011 - 02:18 .

[MorningBird]

I was REALLY sure that you could do romances on both paths, not exclusively one or the other... O__O

[Ryzaki]

Trophonius wrote...
Now those are some really good questions. 

#1 scenario sounds absolutely dreadful. I wouldn't want that to happen to Anders because that would force us to kill him. I don't want a dead as a doornail Anders in my game

#2 scenario is the best scenario. He lives and continues on.

#3 scenario sounds interesting, but has terrifying implications. He could potentially evolve into a Flemeth type of character or even an.....Old God! We know Flemeth used to be a human mage herself, but is a completely different being now. The thought of that happening to Anders is pretty scary. You don't know if he has the capacity to bring the world to ruin

Not necessarily. Vengeance doesn't have to be insane. 

Yeah I'm fond of 2 personally though while he is alive he'll never be the same Anders from Awakening. Alive but throughly changed. 

If he becomes a male Flemeh that would be awesome. I know isn't that interesting! He could become uber powerful and very important. 

[Bradley McCloud]

Ryzaki wrote...

Trophonius wrote...
Now those are some really good questions. 

#1 scenario sounds absolutely dreadful. I wouldn't want that to happen to Anders because that would force us to kill him. I don't want a dead as a doornail Anders in my game

#2 scenario is the best scenario. He lives and continues on.

#3 scenario sounds interesting, but has terrifying implications. He could potentially evolve into a Flemeth type of character or even an.....Old God! We know Flemeth used to be a human mage herself, but is a completely different being now. The thought of that happening to Anders is pretty scary. You don't know if he has the capacity to bring the world to ruin

Not necessarily. Vengeance doesn't have to be insane. 

Yeah I'm fond of 2 personally though while he is alive he'll never be the same Anders from Awakening. Alive but throughly changed. 

If he becomes a male Flemeh that would be awesome. I know isn't that interesting! He could become uber powerful and very important. 

I'll go with Door Number 2.

[Narwool]

It's also possible that Vengeance could somehow be returned to being the spirit of Justice, and he willingly leaves Anders' body. Or, maybe you have to go all Conner-like and exorcise him while in the Fade/

[lilliful]

I actually like the #3 Anders scenario of "completely merged into a new being." Like "Tuvix" (if anyone gets the Voyager reference) but without the fail. It could be handy to have a crazy powerful abomination/old god/whatever lover. Usually with a companion romance, I always feel that the PC has the upper hand and could, if pressed, ultimately pwn their LI of choice. May not be canon or anything, but that's always the feeling I get. It'd be nice for that to be completely impossible :3

[EscherEnigma]

@Hypeallage: Those are some very nice speed paints.  Goodness knows that I can only work that fast when I'm working with pencil, and even then I couldn't get so many out that fast with any semblence of clarity to the pictures.  Very nice work.

lilliful wrote...

Would it really even be fair, if Anders has a "Bi the way" moment to say "this kind of character couldn't realistically be bisexual?" What wouldn't be bisexual about him? Why would it feel tacked on?

For me?  It would mostly feel "tacked on" because he was rather unabashed about his attraction to women in Awakenings, and if you returned to the Vigil once you heard it was being attacked he says "Have I told you how much I love you?  Er, not in that way..."

So it would just feel inconsistent.  Not unbelievable, mind you, just a bit inconsistent.  More so because it is fiction, and that makes it feel more like the writers changed their mind then something he came to terms with, seeing as I know that there is no real "Anders" that's wrestling with his own feelings, it's just the writers changing their mind.

So I suppose that would make it a case where I'm more then willing to accept something in reality then in a piece of fiction*.

ErichHartmann wrote...

So how many in this thread are really going to pursue the M/M romance?

On my first playthrough I'll probably romance whichever character seems most interesting.  Which, from what little I know, is Anders.  But that might change.  Regardless of my first playthrough though, I'll try them all before I put the game back on the shelf.
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*Well, maybe.  If I ran into a formerly "straight" guy that suddenly declares himself bi after getting intimate with his first bloke, I'd be skeptical that he wasn't actually gay.  Like it or not, lots of gay men identify as bi before they're comfortable identifying as gay.  I know I did.  So if a guy made a new claim of being bi, I'd reserve judgement** till I saw how long it "stuck".  Not fair, I know, but there you have it.
**Not that it really matters, mind you.  Heck, even while I might not believe a guy that discovers he's suddenly bi, if it comes up in conversation I'll identify him as that so long as he does.  Your buisness what you want to identify as, after all.

[Bradley McCloud]

Narwool wrote...

It's also possible that Vengeance could somehow be returned to being the spirit of Justice, and he willingly leaves Anders' body. Or, maybe you have to go all Conner-like and exorcise him while in the Fade/

Or, he possesses Epic Templar Guy and becomes a perminant new companion. -shifty eyes-

[Narwool]

Bradley McCloud wrote...

Narwool wrote...

It's also possible that Vengeance could somehow be returned to being the spirit of Justice, and he willingly leaves Anders' body. Or, maybe you have to go all Conner-like and exorcise him while in the Fade/

Or, he possesses Epic Templar Guy and becomes a perminant new companion. -shifty eyes-

I think Epic Templar Guy needs to be the first new companion mod created. I demand it.

[Blue_Shayde]

who is this epic templar guy? xD

I'd sadly choose scenerio 3 for Anders, cause it does sound pretty awesome. But come on...think about it. No matter how powerful the being, the mc will always be able to pwn them one way or the other. >8D

[Fenn_]

Bradley McCloud wrote...

Narwool wrote...

It's also possible that Vengeance could somehow be returned to being the spirit of Justice, and he willingly leaves Anders' body. Or, maybe you have to go all Conner-like and exorcise him while in the Fade/

Or, he possesses Epic Templar Guy and becomes a perminant new companion. -shifty eyes-

Who is this man Teagan?

Modifié par Fenn , 28 février 2011 - 02:30 .

[Isaidlunch]

Screenshots are up in the Anders thread (social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/5972952/193#6263488)

It looks like Anders willingly lets Vengeance "take over" in combat. Maybe he has more control over Vengeance then we thought?

[Narwool]

Who is this man teagan?

I read that in Isolde's voice. NOOOO!

And Epic Templar Guy was just some templar in a screenshot that people were speculating to be a companion...I think someone posted a link to the thread they were discussing him.

[Bradley McCloud]

Narwool wrote...

Who is this man teagan?

I read that in Isolde's voice. NOOOO!

And Epic Templar Guy was just some templar in a screenshot that people were speculating to be a companion...I think someone posted a link to the thread they were discussing him.

Either that or Cullen snuck into DA2.

[Blue_Shayde]

Kazanth wrote...

Screenshots are up in the Anders thread (social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/5972952/193#6263488)

It looks like Anders willingly lets Vengeance "take over" in combat. Maybe he has more control over Vengeance then we thought?

I can't do it. I just can't get through that thread in search of this templar without sticking out my tongue and cringing.

[lilliful]

Narwool wrote...

Who is this man teagan?

I read that in Isolde's voice. NOOOO!

QUICK. KILL IT WITH BLOOD MAGIC. TEAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN.

Seriously, killed her every time. Even if I'd already liberated the circle. Or sometimes I just kill Connor because I think it hurts her more than death. ...That's probably not what BioWare was going for, was it?

[Narwool]

lilliful wrote...

Narwool wrote...

Who is this man teagan?

 
I read that in Isolde's voice. NOOOO!

QUICK. KILL IT WITH BLOOD MAGIC. TEAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN.

Seriously, killed her every time. Even if I'd already liberated the circle. Or sometimes I just kill Connor because I think it hurts her more than death. ...That's probably not what BioWare was going for, was it?

I couldn't kill her the first time because Alistair was my m!Warden's bff and I didn't want him to be mad at me. ;A; 

[lilliful]

Kazanth wrote...

Screenshots are up in the Anders thread (social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/5972952/193#6263488)

It looks like Anders willingly lets Vengeance "take over" in combat. Maybe he has more control over Vengeance then we thought?

That pretty much solidifies it -- Anders is the first one for whom my m!Hawke will test reach and flexibility. It does look more like a symbiotic situation than berserk rage. I would assume, after the first nightmarish incident, they would take some time to, you know, work on that.