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[plumededragop]

Hi everyone!

No, Ryzaki, might not be ONLY Anders. Still no news about that.

[Twofold Black]

TM13h, you are my hero.

[elirian_19]

Ryzaki wrote...

Bah. It's Anders. He flirts back. T_T

Seems that way. Meh. Glad I didn't give in to my optimism.

Sorry, m!Hawke. Better luck next time.

[catabuca]

TM13h wrote...

I asked the editor of the M!Games article for clarification. Here's what he said:

Zur Romanze mit Fenris: Wir haben für das Testspiel lediglich mit ihm 
geflirtet.  Aufgestockt wurden die Optionen insofern, dass wir mit 
unserem männlichen Hawke diesmal wesentlich mehr Männer anbaggern 
konnten, als mit unserem männlichen grauen Wächter im ersten Teil 
(unter anderem auch Anders, der dann definitv zurückbaggert). Auch 
außerhalb der Party (Stadtwächter in Kirkwall) ist dies möglich. In 
DA:O funktionierte M/M meines Wissens nur mit diesem Elfenmeuchler 
aus Antiva (Name vergessen). Vollwertige W/W-Beziehung kann man auf 
jeden Fall mit Isabela eingehen. Hoffe das hilft erstmal weiter. Mal 
sehen, vielleicht bringen wir demnächst ein DA II-Flirtspecial, so 
ähnlich, wie damals bei Mass Effect 2...

So basically they just flirted with Fenris. According the "aufgestockt" part: They could hit on more men with male Hawke than with the GW in DA:O, including Anders who "flirts back". Even outside of the party there are NPCs to flirt with, like city guardsin Kirkwall.

A full relationship they only tested with Isabela in the F/F constellation.

Make of that what you will :-).

Gah!! Thank you for asking!

I'm still saying it's all to play for.

[dreamextractor]

Ryzaki wrote...

Bah. It's Anders. He flirts back. T_T

Meh, they didn't deny that Fenris didn't, though. Just because Anders flirts back doesn't really mean anything, too, without confirmation that he's the BI LI. It could just mean nothing.

[Neezoy]

TM13h wrote...

I asked the editor of the M!Games article for clarification. Here's what he said:

Zur Romanze mit Fenris: Wir haben für das Testspiel lediglich mit ihm 
geflirtet.  Aufgestockt wurden die Optionen insofern, dass wir mit 
unserem männlichen Hawke diesmal wesentlich mehr Männer anbaggern 
konnten, als mit unserem männlichen grauen Wächter im ersten Teil 
(unter anderem auch Anders, der dann definitv zurückbaggert). Auch 
außerhalb der Party (Stadtwächter in Kirkwall) ist dies möglich. In 
DA:O funktionierte M/M meines Wissens nur mit diesem Elfenmeuchler 
aus Antiva (Name vergessen). Vollwertige W/W-Beziehung kann man auf 
jeden Fall mit Isabela eingehen. Hoffe das hilft erstmal weiter. Mal 
sehen, vielleicht bringen wir demnächst ein DA II-Flirtspecial, so 
ähnlich, wie damals bei Mass Effect 2...

I would like a full word-for-word translation of that to english before I comment on it/pick it apart. My german is too rusty

Modifié par Neezoy, 28 février 2011 - 04:49 .

[catabuca]

elirian_19 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Bah. It's Anders. He flirts back. T_T

Seems that way. Meh. Glad I didn't give in to my optimism.

Sorry, m!Hawke. Better luck next time.

Come of folks, don't give in.

Totally circumstantial list of evidence and non-confirmation:

1) You can flirt with Fenris (it doesn't say whether Fenris flirted back or not)
2) You can flirt with Anders (while Anders flirts back, it doesn't say whether that's just good natured flirting or if it does indeed mean you can romance him (although of course you can, because you can romance them all ))
3) They only attempted a romance with Isabela (with fHawke, so at least that is confirmation at last Isabela is a bi LI)

*sings don't stop believin'*

[Ryzaki]

dreamextractor wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Bah. It's Anders. He flirts back. T_T

Meh, they didn't deny that Fenris didn't, though. Just because Anders flirts back doesn't really mean anything, too, without confirmation that he's the BI LI. It could just mean nothing.

What kind of straight man flirts with another man? And I mean in a serious not an obvious "bro lol" kind of way. 

[Taleroth]

Ryzaki wrote...

What kind of straight man flirts with another man? And I mean in a serious not an obvious "bro lol" kind of way. 

It's hard to distinguish serious flirting with lolflirting.  Women do it all the time, why can't we guys?

[elirian_19]

catabuca wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Bah. It's Anders. He flirts back. T_T

Seems that way. Meh. Glad I didn't give in to my optimism.

Sorry, m!Hawke. Better luck next time.

Come of folks, don't give in.

Totally circumstantial list of evidence and non-confirmation:

1) You can flirt with Fenris (it doesn't say whether Fenris flirted back or not)
2) You can flirt with Anders (while Anders flirts back, it doesn't say whether that's just good natured flirting or if it does indeed mean you can romance him (although of course you can, because you can romance them all ))
3) They only attempted a romance with Isabela (with fHawke, so at least that is confirmation at last Isabela is a bi LI)

*sings don't stop believin'*

I can't take it anymore.

Bah. Anders is the bi option. No doubt about it. While my m!Hawke would have preferred Fenris he's gonna have to suck it up and get dirty with Anders. *shrugs*

But he'll still totally be secretly hot for Fenris.

[plumededragop]

Ryzaki wrote...

dreamextractor wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Bah. It's Anders. He flirts back. T_T

Meh,
they didn't deny that Fenris didn't, though. Just because Anders flirts
back doesn't really mean anything, too, without confirmation that he's
the BI LI. It could just mean nothing.

What kind of straight man flirts with another man? And I mean in a serious not an obvious "bro lol" kind of way. 

I've seen that. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie] So, it's still possible and like catabuca, I'm still a believer.

[Neezoy]

catabuca wrote...

Come of folks, don't give in.

Totally circumstantial list of evidence and non-confirmation:

1) You can flirt with Fenris (it doesn't say whether Fenris flirted back or not)
2) You can flirt with Anders (while Anders flirts back, it doesn't say whether that's just good natured flirting or if it does indeed mean you can romance him (although of course you can, because you can romance them all ))
3) They only attempted a romance with Isabela (with fHawke, so at least that is confirmation at last Isabela is a bi LI)

*sings don't stop believin'*

If Fenris cut you down (however angry or smoothly) for m/m flirting with him I have a feeling they would have said that if he did...

Modifié par Neezoy, 28 février 2011 - 04:57 .

[silver-crescent]

ANDERS FLIRTS BACK

yeeeeesss

[Saibh]

Modifié par Saibh, 28 février 2011 - 04:53 .

[Ryzaki]

Taleroth wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

What kind of straight man flirts with another man? And I mean in a serious not an obvious "bro lol" kind of way. 

It's hard to distinguish serious flirting with lolflirting.  Women do it all the time, why can't we guys?

Yeah but it's obvious to the other bro even if it's not obvious to outsiders! 

plumededragop wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

dreamextractor wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Bah. It's Anders. He flirts back. T_T

Meh,
they didn't deny that Fenris didn't, though. Just because Anders flirts
back doesn't really mean anything, too, without confirmation that he's
the BI LI. It could just mean nothing.

What kind of straight man flirts with another man? And I mean in a serious not an obvious "bro lol" kind of way. 

I've seen that. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie] So, it's still possible and like catabuca, I'm still a believer.

Bah. I can't believe I have to pin my hopes on them all being bi. >_> 

[Taleroth]

Ryzaki wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

What kind of straight man flirts with another man? And I mean in a serious not an obvious "bro lol" kind of way. 

It's hard to distinguish serious flirting with lolflirting.  Women do it all the time, why can't we guys?

Yeah but it's obvious to the other bro even if it's not obvious to outsiders! 

Don't be certain.  Trust me.

*shakes head*  Flirting is dangerous.

[catabuca]

I find it utterly hilarious that every new piece of information brings us closer to believing: a) they're all bi; only Fenris is bi; c) only Anders is bi. And in the end we are absolutely none the wiser despite having new evidence.

Oh god if it wasn't so stressful I think I'd have died from rofl-overdose by now.

[Dragoniter]

Neezoy wrote...

TM13h wrote...

I asked the editor of the M!Games article for clarification. Here's what he said:

Zur Romanze mit Fenris: Wir haben für das Testspiel lediglich mit ihm 
geflirtet.  Aufgestockt wurden die Optionen insofern, dass wir mit 
unserem männlichen Hawke diesmal wesentlich mehr Männer anbaggern 
konnten, als mit unserem männlichen grauen Wächter im ersten Teil 
(unter anderem auch Anders, der dann definitv zurückbaggert). Auch 
außerhalb der Party (Stadtwächter in Kirkwall) ist dies möglich. In 
DA:O funktionierte M/M meines Wissens nur mit diesem Elfenmeuchler 
aus Antiva (Name vergessen). Vollwertige W/W-Beziehung kann man auf 
jeden Fall mit Isabela eingehen. Hoffe das hilft erstmal weiter. Mal 
sehen, vielleicht bringen wir demnächst ein DA II-Flirtspecial, so 
ähnlich, wie damals bei Mass Effect 2...

I would like a full word-for-word translation of that to english before I comment on it/pick it apart. My german is too rusty

I am german and the loose translation a few posts above this one is fairly accurate.

[Trophonius]

lol, you guys. Fenris will flirt back because he's bi and Anders flirting back at Garrett is not surprising to me. As it stands, both Fenris and Anders love the dude Hawkes. =P

[obnoxiousgas]

Uh, unless someone devoted a stupid amount of time to make a fake f!Hawke/Merrill screenshot and/or Isabela is just screwing with Hawke in the demo, it would appear that both of the female LIs are bi. So unless that is the case and someone out there is kind of a dick, it wouldn't exactly be unfounded extrapolation to assume that the same is true for the male LIs?

This thread is such an emotional rollercoaster, and for the most part I'm only lurking.

Modifié par obnoxiousgas, 28 février 2011 - 04:58 .

[dreamextractor]

Ryzaki wrote...

dreamextractor wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Bah. It's Anders. He flirts back. T_T

Meh, they didn't deny that Fenris didn't, though. Just because Anders flirts back doesn't really mean anything, too, without confirmation that he's the BI LI. It could just mean nothing.

What kind of straight man flirts with another man? And I mean in a serious not an obvious "bro lol" kind of way. 

Well we don't really know if Anders is being "serious", now do we? They didn't pursue a relationship with him so if we're going with the they're-not-all-bi route, he could just as easily end up rejecting you if you try to pursue more.  You could also flirt with non-companion npc males as a man. Doesn't really mean anything will come out of it.

[TM13h]

As a word-for-word translation was requested:

Regarding the romance with Fenris: For the test game we only flirted with him. Increased/expanded were the options in so far as this time we could now hit on far more men with our male Hawke than with our Grey Warden in the first part (among others Anders who definitely flirts back). Even outside of the party (city guards in Kirkwall) this is possible. To myknowledge, in DA:O M/M only worked with that Elven assassin from Antiva (forgot the name). A full-fledged F/F relationship is definityl possible with Isabela. I hope this helps for starters. We'll see... maybe we will bring a DA2 flirt special soon, just like we did for Mass Effect 2.

[HopHazzard]

Ryzaki wrote...

dreamextractor wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Bah. It's Anders. He flirts back. T_T

Meh, they didn't deny that Fenris didn't, though. Just because Anders flirts back doesn't really mean anything, too, without confirmation that he's the BI LI. It could just mean nothing.

What kind of straight man flirts with another man? And I mean in a serious not an obvious "bro lol" kind of way. 

Incredibly narccicisstic ones who get off on knowing someone is attracted to them. I cannot be the only person who's met guys like this.

Modifié par HopHazzard, 28 février 2011 - 05:04 .

[Neezoy]

catabuca wrote...

Oh god if it wasn't so stressful I think I'd have died from rofl-overdose by now.

I'm thinking the devs ARE. OMG - we might not get the game on time, oh noez

[Matt Drake]

catabuca wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Bah. It's Anders. He flirts back. T_T

Seems that way. Meh. Glad I didn't give in to my optimism.

Sorry, m!Hawke. Better luck next time.

Come of folks, don't give in.

Totally circumstantial list of evidence and non-confirmation:

1) You can flirt with Fenris (it doesn't say whether Fenris flirted back or not)
2) You can flirt with Anders (while Anders flirts back, it doesn't say whether that's just good natured flirting or if it does indeed mean you can romance him (although of course you can, because you can romance them all ))
3) They only attempted a romance with Isabela (with fHawke, so at least that is confirmation at last Isabela is a bi LI)

*sings don't stop believin'*

I would like a translation too  Used a free translate site and it's kinda bad... but what I could understand and guess was not good... something about m/m only possible outside of the party members with some npc somewhere. Though they mentioned they didn't look into it with great detail so they might have gotten that result because of not trying, but right now I just doubt it... I can totally see possible a m/m outside of party, while f/f is in of course, especially considering what one of the devs said, something about how people interested in m/m will have something they'll like... Totally reading into that like crazy, but overall that seems to me much more likely. Hope I'm wrong. Also hope someone translates that clearly lol...

EDIT: ok, some hope back up... I think I'll just die till 8 or 11 and ressurrect myself then 

Modifié par Matt Drake, 28 février 2011 - 05:01 .