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[Tietj]

Before saying that there haven't ever been any fully gay characters besides Juhani, remember that both the warden himself and Hawke have the potential to be gay, depending on how you play them. I know it's not exactly what people are talking about, but there you go. Having that as an option, especially in DA2 with a fully voiced player character, is more important to me than anything about his love interest. Of course, this depends on how it's done; it could go horribly wrong, as it did in Bully where the most you could be was bisexual. But I don't think it will be like that here; even in the city elf origin, where you started out on your wedding day (to a woman), you could make it clear that you weren't interested, to the point where if you see your bride just before you leave, she'll even say that it's obvious.

Anyway, to answer the actual question, I would prefer a gay warrior, closer to Alistair than Zevran but different from both, although I know it won't happen as David Gaider has already said that it's more economical to have the m/m L/I be bi. Which is fine.

A question to everyone, since I kind of stopped paying attention to the other thread after it got hijacked. I came back and read some of it after it had been closed and people were talking about how Fenris isn't a m/m love interest, or some people were saying that he wasn't a love interest in general. Is that confirmed? Did I miss it?

Użytkownik Tietj edytował ten post 04 styczeń 2011 - 08:24

[Collider]

JrayM16 wrote...

Collider wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Witchers wrote...

I hope its optional like it was in DA1, because i absolute hate romance in video games or stupid sex jokes. It is just wrong, and i don't like it. It is optional right?

Just my opinion

I would think all romances would be optional.  They were in Origins.

And this time the game seems to be devoid of ninjamances. Thank god.

Forgive me, but what do you mean by ninjamances?

No need to apologize.
Ninjamances are basically when player enter romances unintentionally. They click on a dialog options that seems innoucous but it actually leads to romance.
DA2 seems to be getting rid of this problem by labeling dialog options that lead to romance or have the player character flirt with another character.

[JrayM16]

Collider wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

Collider wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Witchers wrote...

I hope its optional like it was in DA1, because i absolute hate romance in video games or stupid sex jokes. It is just wrong, and i don't like it. It is optional right?

Just my opinion

I would think all romances would be optional.  They were in Origins.

And this time the game seems to be devoid of ninjamances. Thank god.

Forgive me, but what do you mean by ninjamances?

No need to apologize.
Ninjamances are basically when player enter romances unintentionally. They click on a dialog options that seems innoucous but it actually leads to romance.
DA2 seems to be getting rid of this problem by labeling dialog options that lead to romance or have the player character flirt with another character.

Ah, I see.

Yes, those were annoying definetely.

[AlexXIV]

JrayM16 wrote...

Collider wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

Collider wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Witchers wrote...

I hope its optional like it was in DA1, because i absolute hate romance in video games or stupid sex jokes. It is just wrong, and i don't like it. It is optional right?

Just my opinion

I would think all romances would be optional.  They were in Origins.

And this time the game seems to be devoid of ninjamances. Thank god.

Forgive me, but what do you mean by ninjamances?

No need to apologize.
Ninjamances are basically when player enter romances unintentionally. They click on a dialog options that seems innoucous but it actually leads to romance.
DA2 seems to be getting rid of this problem by labeling dialog options that lead to romance or have the player character flirt with another character.

Ah, I see.

Yes, those were annoying definetely.

I wonder. Why annoying.

Is it annoying if an NPC starts flirting with the player? It always bothered me that the player starts romances. Because, you know, the player is the 'awesome guy' that everyone wants.

[TJPags]

AlexXIV wrote...

I wonder. Why annoying.

Is it annoying if an NPC starts flirting with the player? It always bothered me that the player starts romances. Because, you know, the player is the 'awesome guy' that everyone wants.

Speaking for myself, I didn't mind Zev's hitting on me half as much as I was annoyed by having to break up with Leli in one game, when I'd never been in a relationship with her.

[Trophonius]

I'm secretly hoping for a male human templar for an m/m option (not Wesley, obviously). In Origins, I was delighted that Zevran was chosen to be the m/m option and felt that romancing him was most rewarding, but I think we should get a non-elf option this time (though I wouldn't object too much to Fenris, if he's even an LI). That said, I can imagine a relationship between mage M!Hawke and male human templar to be initially tempestuous (especially if the templar carries his own level of prejudice against mages, though not too irascible like Cullen), but eventually unfolds into a stronger, stable, and healthy relationship. I could see it progressing slowly and doesn't have to be mushy at all. Just having an event or some experience that brings them closer together, leading to understanding, respect, and trust between the two, IMO, would be good enough.

Użytkownik Trophonius edytował ten post 04 styczeń 2011 - 08:44

[dgcatanisiri]

AlexXIV wrote...
I wonder. Why annoying.

Is it annoying if an NPC starts flirting with the player? It always bothered me that the player starts romances. Because, you know, the player is the 'awesome guy' that everyone wants.

It's not so much the NPC flirting as it is that people don't want to plan to romance one character only to find that when they were being nice to another character, the game took it as them romancing them.

It's like when I played through a Zevran romance, Leliana thought we were in a relationship and confronted me about it, and I was wondering 'uh... what 'us' are you talking about?'

[Reidbynature]

TJPags wrote...
I know this is the M/M romance thread, so maybe not the right place, but wouldn't it be interesting to perhaps have pregnancies result from the romances?  We do have 10 years, after all.

That said, I also agree in general - the romances in Origins seemed stilted once they slept together.

Nice idea.  I've replied in the 'odds for romances' thread so it doesn't derail this one.

[Tietj]

dgcatanisiri wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...
I wonder. Why annoying.

Is it annoying if an NPC starts flirting with the player? It always bothered me that the player starts romances. Because, you know, the player is the 'awesome guy' that everyone wants.

It's not so much the NPC flirting as it is that people don't want to plan to romance one character only to find that when they were being nice to another character, the game took it as them romancing them.

It's like when I played through a Zevran romance, Leliana thought we were in a relationship and confronted me about it, and I was wondering 'uh... what 'us' are you talking about?'

Yes, Leliana was by far the worst offender with the ninjamancing.  I always thought Zevran's flirting was completely obvious and easily deflected.  He didn't even seem all that hurt by it when you refused his advances.  Sometimes I wonder if people complaining about his romance being forced on them are talking about the fact that he'll flirt with a male warden unsolicited, not that you actually accidentally ended up in a relationship with him.

[Wittand25]

AlexXIV wrote...

I wonder. Why annoying.

Is it annoying if an NPC starts flirting with the player? It always bothered me that the player starts romances. Because, you know, the player is the 'awesome guy' that everyone wants.

In ME1 I once was in a position that I did not want to start with Ashley but apparently was too nice to her and could only end my conversations with her by three different variants of " I look forward to have sex with you". The only way out of that was well Virmire.
Something similar happened in ME2. Be nice towards Jack, but tell her that you are not sexually interested in her and for the rest of the game she behaves if you left her standing in front of the altar.

Both instances annoyed me,the first more than the second, because I lost control over my character.

[AlexXIV]

Yeah well I agree. It is indeed annoying if you didn't intend to romance and you end up with the game thinking you broke a promise or cheated your LI. Shouldn't happen.

Edit: Eventhough I have to say Jack(ME2) just acts like an ass, no matter if you accidently romanced her and broke out or didn't romance her at all. I mostly played female Shep and always end up with Jack telling Shep to ****** off, **** off or leave her alone or whatever.

Użytkownik AlexXIV edytował ten post 04 styczeń 2011 - 08:52

[Chris Priestly]

Romances are optional. You may encounter some dialog with NPCs, party or not party, that could be considered "flirting", but whether you choose to persue these dilaog choices is optional.

[Deviija]

I'm just super stoked for m/m romance(s) in the game! That alone is enough to make my mood much brighter, letting me craft a character I actually want to play (a gay or bisexual male).

[Wittand25]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Romances are optional. You may encounter some dialog with NPCs, party or not party, that could be considered "flirting", but whether you choose to persue these dilaog choices is optional.

This is true. But sadly in some cases in the past the player did not have all the information needed to make the choice. E.g try to extort more money from the consort and she insists on paying in kind no matter if you want that or not.
With the new system in DA2 this will hopefully not happen again.

[Ninja Mage]

So Fenris has been confirmed as the M/M option?

[Atakuma]

Ninja Mage wrote...

So Fenris has been confirmed as the M/M option?

Nope.

[Wittand25]

Ninja Mage wrote...

So Fenris has been confirmed as the M/M option?

No and with his backstory I am not sure that he will even be an f/m option. I mean he has the looks but he does sound too old to be an actual romance for anyone.

[AlexXIV]

Atakuma wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

So Fenris has been confirmed as the M/M option?

Nope.

I hope he isn't. I am not even a Fenris fan or against M/M romances. But hopefully not the elf again.

[halO bendeR]

I don't tend to check these threads because, well, I don't have a personal interest in the subject matter, but one thing does occur to me: It seems like every time a thread on s/s romance is started in these forums the mods come in here to warn that the thread will be shut down if people don't act civilly. Doesn't that threat by its very nature sort of favour the people who are adverse to these types of threads, even if unintentionally?

[SnakeHelah]

Russalka wrote...

The official Frequently Asked Questions section hints non-companion romances. Do you think there could be a male homosexual relationship outside the party?

Well, It greatly depends on what they mean by saying "non-companion" romances. For all I know that could mean something like the threesome with isabela at the pearl. I wouldn't call it a romance but ou can never know what they have in mind. Only time will tell I suppose.

Użytkownik SnakeHelah edytował ten post 04 styczeń 2011 - 09:16

[Thicos]

Imagine Fenris in the real world.

It is obvious that he will be gay.



I prefer unique characters to M/M , M/F, F/F and bi for both M and F.

[Ninja Mage]

Didn't Gaider say that Fenris was the M/m though? Or was he just talking about the game

[Daewan]

halO bendeR wrote...

I don't tend to check these threads because, well, I don't have a personal interest in the subject matter, but one thing does occur to me: It seems like every time a thread on s/s romance is started in these forums the mods come in here to warn that the thread will be shut down if people don't act civilly. Doesn't that threat by its very nature sort of favour the people who are adverse to these types of threads, even if unintentionally?

Not quite.  What the mods and the thread creator are trying to do is ensure that the discussion is civil and relevant, ideally at the same time.  If someone breaks the rules and everyone (correctly) ignores the bad post, the post can be reported and removed, and the discussion can continue around it, as if it had never happened.

Ideally, that's how all the threads should behave, and no one would ever respond to a troll post in a way that allows the trolling to continue.

[Tietj]

SnakeHelah wrote...

Russalka wrote...

The official Frequently Asked Questions section hints non-companion romances. Do you think there could be a male homosexual relationship outside the party?

Well, It greatly depends on what they mean by saying "non-companion" romances. For all I know that could mean something like the threesome with isabela at the pearl. I wouldn't call it a romance but ou can never know what they have in mind. Only time will tell I suppose.

Or like Dairren or Iona.  And speaking of Dairren, am I the only one who noticed that he was  harder to romance as a male than a female?  I'm assuming it's because the developers wanted to make sure that a male warden actually was flirting before having him respond favorably.  Zevran was also more difficult to romance as a male, despite many claims to the contrary from people who were offended at being flirted with.  But when you first meet him, he flirts with a female warden much more obviously than he does with a male.  I'm not saying this as something I minded, just something I noticed that rarely gets mentioned.  It's even more realistic, when you think about it; since s/s relationships are not enitrely as acceptable in Thedas, it makes sense that men would be more hesitant to flirt with each other  or respond to such flirting. 

[Atakuma]

Ninja Mage wrote...

Didn't Gaider say that Fenris was the M/m though? Or was he just talking about the game

I'm guessing he was using him as a hypothetical.