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#6226
plumededragop

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lilliful wrote...

Lulz, I give up, my opinion is clearly outnumbered. I'll just be here in the corner, by myself, with an open mind ready to be pleasantly surprised by BioWare's characterization efforts D:

lol, sorry. :D Nah, I doubt he will be an Alistair bis. I'm waiting to see.

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Maelora

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Zevran used to be hot.

Now he's all derpy. The years have not been kind...

#6228
Blue_Shayde

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Neezoy wrote...

lilliful wrote...

Neezoy wrote...

Blue_Shayde wrote...

so...he's Alistair with a different background behind the emotional pouting?


I like how you read my mind. :D

Now now you two, not every guy who wants love and a comitted relationship is automatically Alistair XD No more than every hot elf is automatically Zevran 2.0.


Perhaps. I guess it remains to be seen how similar they are (although I thought them something of clones already in Awakening - and that had nothing to do with the romance then)



Ryzaki and others - *points up* This. Neezroy and I seem to share like minds. xD

Zevran and Fenris have very different personalities. But Anders and Alistair share a lot in common in personality. >< (so it seems to me, at least) I'll see how it goes in game. But the chances he'll annoy me have increased.

cya later, guys. I have work. :pinched:

Modifié par Blue_Shayde, 03 mars 2011 - 06:48 .


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catabuca

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Neezoy wrote...

Now THERE'S a thought! Perhaps? It will definitely lead to lots and lots of metagaming then, not to mention the sucking up to characters in your party, which was what Bioware wanted to avoid with introducing the rivalry thing....


Yeah, that's what I find so odd about it all. I thought the f/r thing meant there was more choice, richer relationships, romances that still happened but just had a different flavour to them depending on f/r ... but now it seems that if you are pursuing a romantic relationship with someone, you've got to micro-manage your responses and choose decisions in a particular way to get the outcome of the romance you want. Which means you end up with the approval system problems from DAO.

I am confuse.

#6230
mellifera

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lilliful wrote...

Neezoy wrote...

Blue_Shayde wrote...

so...he's Alistair with a different background behind the emotional pouting?


I like how you read my mind. :D

Now now you two, not every guy who wants love and a comitted relationship is automatically Alistair XD No more than every hot elf is automatically Zevran 2.0.


Seriously, haters gonna hate. Then again, I pretty much romanced Alistair every. single. time. Except that one time with Zevran, and I never finished Morrigan or Leliana characters.

BRING ON THE HEARTBREAKING WOOBIE :crying:

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Taleroth wrote...

lilliful wrote...

Neezoy wrote...

Blue_Shayde wrote...

so...he's Alistair with a different background behind the emotional pouting?


I like how you read my mind. :D

Now now you two, not every guy who wants love and a comitted relationship is automatically Alistair XD No more than every hot elf is automatically Zevran 2.0.

Every hot elf being Zevran 2.0 implies Zevran was hot.


He is definitly not hot in anyway right now. *wipes murder knife*

#6232
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How? It just means you don't get to call someone names. You can disagree with someone without being rude.

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jenovan wrote...

Holy Maker, there's a (relatively) big chunk about romance mechanics (and the dialogue icons).  If you go to the preview site, check out the "Strategy and Analysis" sample!  (Or download the whole thing here, thanks to brain_damage :D)

Any relevant highlights? I'm a bit spoiler-shy to go through the file myself. *shame*

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Ryzaki

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Fenn wrote...

He is definitly not hot in anyway right now. *wipes murder knife*


LOL 

Zev looks like...well I don't know how to describe that face other than ugh. 

#6235
plumededragop

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Ryzaki wrote...

Fenn wrote...

He is definitly not hot in anyway right now. *wipes murder knife*


LOL 

Zev looks like...well I don't know how to describe that face other than ugh. 

:crying::crying::crying: My poor Zev.... I wonder where his lover of GW is during DA2. Gah, 11th is too far away!:crying:

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Ryzaki wrote...

How? It just means you don't get to call someone names. You can disagree with someone without being rude.


That's true.  I'm sure there were be various diplomatic ways to disagree in order to open up the Rivalry path.  There's no reason for it to only open if you're like "You're just a big..stupid...meanie!" ...Though if there was an option exactly like it,  I might overuse it.  ._.

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So, is the game out yet? No? Aw... *sadface*

OT: Yay for new information! :3 I am intrigued by the rival-mance system... definitely going to have to see how that works out.

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yukidama wrote...

Seriously, haters gonna hate. Then again, I pretty much romanced Alistair every. single. time. Except that one time with Zevran, and I never finished Morrigan or Leliana characters.


Who said anything about HATE? :blink: I already said I liked Alistair, it just SEEMS Anders has taken some points from his character booklet. I also said it remains to be seen how it really is...

Modifié par Neezoy, 03 mars 2011 - 06:55 .


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Neezoy

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catabuca wrote...

Neezoy wrote...

Now THERE'S a thought! Perhaps? It will definitely lead to lots and lots of metagaming then, not to mention the sucking up to characters in your party, which was what Bioware wanted to avoid with introducing the rivalry thing....


Yeah, that's what I find so odd about it all. I thought the f/r thing meant there was more choice, richer relationships, romances that still happened but just had a different flavour to them depending on f/r ... but now it seems that if you are pursuing a romantic relationship with someone, you've got to micro-manage your responses and choose decisions in a particular way to get the outcome of the romance you want. Which means you end up with the approval system problems from DAO.

I am confuse.


It does make me feel a little stressed. I hope it will all sort itself out once we get the game. Hopefully it will all seem logical (and not so confusing/stupid) then or it will be guides and walkthroughs FTW.

Modifié par Neezoy, 03 mars 2011 - 07:02 .


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lilliful wrote...

Any relevant highlights? I'm a bit spoiler-shy to go through the file myself. *shame*


Nothing particular to s/s or specific characters, except a note that Isabella (????) and Sebastian are atypical.  There are also some very general hints as to how a relationship may progress over time.  Here's the basic breakdown:



If you wish to initiate a romance with a companion, follow these simple guidelines:

- Flirt with the object of your affections whenever possible. However, note that the presence of a Flirt option isn’t always a true indication that a romance is possible.

- In Act 2, try to ensure that your visits to Hawke’s abode occur at night. If your desired squeeze is present on arrival, use the Flirt option to initiate the next stage. When the option arises in conversation, enquire about living together.

- After the romance begins, do not make come-hither eyes at other companions or NPCs: this will not end well. Nor, for that matter, will any degree of ambivalence or outright rejection.

- For the rest of the story, develop the relationship gauge to maximum friendship or rivalry, complete all companion quests, including any ambient situational conversations that may occur, deliver the necessary gifts, then share a moment with Hawke’s loved one in the calm before the storm during Dragon Age II’s epic conclusion --you’ll know it when you get there.

- For Isabela and Sebastian, the above technique only partially applies.

Modifié par jenovan, 03 mars 2011 - 07:05 .


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Dunizel

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lilliful wrote...

jenovan wrote...

Holy Maker, there's a (relatively) big chunk about romance mechanics (and the dialogue icons).  If you go to the preview site, check out the "Strategy and Analysis" sample!  (Or download the whole thing here, thanks to brain_damage :D)

Any relevant highlights? I'm a bit spoiler-shy to go through the file myself. *shame*


I wouldn't suggest you to download the file then, spoilers aplenty! And yes, even something relevant...they give you an insight on how to romance certain characters specifically too.

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OT: Plum, cata, my photoalbum is ready, wanna seeeee! This is what my male Hawke will look like!

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Sooo...now I am sure that not all LI are BI. From the romance part of guide: "flirt as often as possible with your desired party member but remember that flirt do not implement possibility of the romance".

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jenovan wrote...

Nothing particular to s/s or specific characters, except a note that Isabella (????) and Sebastian are atypical.


I guess that is because neither of them wants a relationship in the usual sense (Seb being chaste and Isabela being...not so chaste).

Modifié par Neezoy, 03 mars 2011 - 07:08 .


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plumededragop

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LukaCrosszeria wrote...

OT: Plum, cata, my photoalbum is ready, wanna seeeee! This is what my male Hawke will look like!

Yooooo Luka! <3 yes I wanna see! :D

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What is a derp? Call me old, which compared to most on this board i am ( mid 30's) I hear it being said a lot when it comes to Carver and now Zevran.

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Eorion_Moonwing wrote...

Sooo...now I am sure that not all LI are BI. From the romance part of guide: "flirt as often as possible with your desired party member but remember that flirt do not implement possibility of the romance".


You can flirt with Aveline. She's not romanceble. 

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Eorion_Moonwing wrote...

Sooo...now I am sure that not all LI are BI. From the romance part of guide: "flirt as often as possible with your desired party member but remember that flirt do not implement possibility of the romance".



See our discussion on the previous pages. It might just refer to the possibility to flirt with non-romancable npc's like Varric and Aveline...


:ph34r:'d :D

Modifié par Neezoy, 03 mars 2011 - 07:07 .


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Blue_Shayde wrote...

Neezoy wrote...

Blue_Shayde wrote...

hmm...future entanglement of limbs.... <3<3


Yah, that caught my eye too, for some INEXPLICABLE reason... :whistle:

sadly, preclude means - to prevent, make impossible.

sooooooo.................I can't haz my hatemance? :crying: *breaks down into depressed sobs, waving by to the image of Fenris pinned against a wall*


I've been lurking, but I feel the need to say that ALL IS NOT LOST on the hatemance front.  It's possible that you still get your Fenris smexy tiems in a hatemance but that it's a "fling" rather than being a lasting relationship.  That's how I read "future entanglement of limbs" anyway Posted Image

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LukaCrosszeria wrote...

OT: Plum, cata, my photoalbum is ready, wanna seeeee! This is what my male Hawke will look like!


Yes yes yes!