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[Fidget6]

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

So it's confirmed all LI are bi?

disappointing....Why even bother choosing a gender now other than to hear a different voice.

Oh well once the game is released i shall start my lobbying for 1 Straight 1 Bi and 1 gay LI per gender in future bioware games,I will be mad as hell though if i have to go through getting hit on by every LI again like zevran.

When did Zevran ever hit on you as a male if you didn't want him to? From what I recall he only hits on you (actually not even that, he admits he fancies  you) after you ask him, "So what is it you fancy?" when he says something hinting about bisexuality. And even then he asks if that offends you and you can say "Yes" and it disables the romance I believe. He shouldn't hit on you any more after that.

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Why even bother choosing a gender now other than to hear a different voice.
 

1.Because there's more to your character than who they romance? 2.Given that BioWare games pride themselves on equality for the genders, why should romance be any different?

3.Or do people today only choose gender based on who they can romance?

1.But now there's less choice involved in gender since the story won't change based on your choice like in origins. \\
2.Equality=/=not regonizing the contrast between sexes.
3. Was a rather large part of it.

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

Fidget6 wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

So it's confirmed all LI are bi?

disappointing....Why even bother choosing a gender now other than to hear a different voice.

Oh well once the game is released i shall start my lobbying for 1 Straight 1 Bi and 1 gay LI per gender in future bioware games,I will be mad as hell though if i have to go through getting hit on by every LI again like zevran.

When did Zevran ever hit on you as a male if you didn't want him to? From what I recall he only hits on you (actually not even that, he admits he fancies  you) after you ask him, "So what is it you fancy?" when he says something hinting about bisexuality. And even then he asks if that offends you and you can say "Yes" and it disables the romance I believe. He shouldn't hit on you any more after that.

He hits on you within the first seconds of meeting him, Along the lines of "handsome warden such as yourself"

[mikeburns]

catabuca wrote...

I love how so many of us are choosing to create Hawkes who will have differing backgrounds or opinions to the LIs we intend to romance.

I see a lot of mages going for Fenris, and templars/chantry types going for Anders. I like that we often gravitate towards natural discordance in order to deepen the experience.

I'm worried about this, lol I haven't not played a mage in an RPG since I can remember, but I'm leaning towards Fenris. I might just have to play my cards carefully.

I just want to say, the fact that I need to actually decide between s/s LIs is AMAZING. Is this a first for a game? Multiple m/m LIs?

[Chris Readman]

TheDarkBrotherhood wrote...

Chris Readman wrote...

NotTale wrote...

Carfax wrote...

Gaider seems hellbent on promoting some kind of homosexual agenda, so I'm very skeptical.

Hear hear.  He's probably trying to turn us normal folk into second-class citizens of a communist regime.

Shh... We can't let the straight people learn of our agenda to slowly introduce them to gay culture, making them weak and accepting, only to reveal that we're actually overlords from the planet GaxxKrr'zack who couldn't care less about sex. If they discover that we are just out to enslave the entire population of Earth, we won't be able to force them to farm smurf berries in order to power our time travel machine.

Of course we shouldn't let them know, you think we're stupid ? it's not like you just posted this to reveal what we really are.

It's all part of the plan. Let the feeble straight people of Earth believe that they know the truth. I may be lying, OR AM I?!?!!!

[Carfax]

Chris Readman wrote...

Furtheremore, do you see how petty this is? Why would you want them to be straight anyway, other than "realism". If you think that Bioware is pandering to the people who want to "get their rocks off" as you've so eloquently put it, then don't you see how Bioware is pandering to people like you who want everything their way.

I only wanted them to be straight, because Bioware was providing the bisexual option to LGBT customers. 

If Bioware can cater to a small minority of gamers, why not cater to people like me as well that would prefer to not have any sort of homosexual content?

This is unprecedented in Bioware's history in case you've forgotten, so it's not as though this philosophy has always been part of their ethic.

Anyway, from what I've been reading, it seems it won't be much of an issue as long as it's contextually driven.

[Russalka]

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

1.But now there's less choice involved in gender since the story won't change based on your choice like in origins.
2.Equality=/=not regonizing the contrast between sexes.
3. Was a rather large part of it.

How do you know that?

They promised that these romances will not be just about changing the gender in the dialogue.

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

c0wb0ycliche wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

So it's confirmed all LI are bi?

disappointing....Why even bother choosing a gender now other than to hear a different voice.

Oh well once the game is released i shall start my lobbying for 1 Straight 1 Bi and 1 gay LI per gender in future bioware games,I will be mad as hell though if i have to go through getting hit on by every LI again like zevran.

Gender and sexuality are different but related things.  Need to get that one straight (hah!) before you can argue about it.

But the only thing that signifigantly contrasted the genders signifigantly in origins was the choice of LI.
Now the only difference between your gender will be whether you sibling calls you sister or brother.

What's next, women working and voting and not staying at home with the kids? Stay at home dads? H-h-h-h-omosexuals? *shudders*

THis is going too far and is not DA2 related.

[Russalka]

Carfax wrote...

If Bioware can cater to a small minority of gamers, why not cater to people like me as well that would prefer to not have any sort of homosexual content?

I would like to hope that you are a minority as well.

[ipgd]

Carfax wrote...

If Bioware can cater to a small minority of gamers, why not cater to people like me as well that would prefer to not have any sort of homosexual content?

Because we're more likeable than you guys.

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

Russalka wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

1.But now there's less choice involved in gender since the story won't change based on your choice like in origins.
2.Equality=/=not regonizing the contrast between sexes.
3. Was a rather large part of it.

How do you know that?

They promised that these romances will not be just about changing the gender in the dialogue.

You got only about 1 option about talking to your bi LI in origins about his/her S/S intrest. I imagine it will be the same in DA2. But my fears can not be confirmed as of yet. So i will hold off on making a thread complaining about this until i see it for myself.

[lostspline]

Why are Krogans so homophobic? 

[catabuca]

c0wb0ycliche wrote...

catabuca wrote...

I love how so many of us are choosing to create Hawkes who will have differing backgrounds or opinions to the LIs we intend to romance.

I see a lot of mages going for Fenris, and templars/chantry types going for Anders. I like that we often gravitate towards natural discordance in order to deepen the experience.

I'm worried about this, lol I haven't not played a mage in an RPG since I can remember, but I'm leaning towards Fenris. I might just have to play my cards carefully.

I just want to say, the fact that I need to actually decide between s/s LIs is AMAZING. Is this a first for a game? Multiple m/m LIs?

And it's the fact that this choice exists now that is so amazing and why so many of us are happy.

[Tellervo]

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

So it's confirmed all LI are bi?

disappointing....Why even bother choosing a gender now other than to hear a different voice.

Oh well once the game is released i shall start my lobbying for 1 Straight 1 Bi and 1 gay LI per gender in future bioware games,I will be mad as hell though if i have to go through getting hit on by every LI again like zevran.

Gender and sexuality are different but related things.  Need to get that one straight (hah!) before you can argue about it.

But the only thing that signifigantly contrasted the genders signifigantly in origins was the choice of LI.
Now the only difference between your gender will be whether you sibling calls you sister or brother.

As someone who identifies strongly as nul gender, I think this is great.

[Carfax]

IndelibleJester wrote...

I agree. The same can be said of emotions, as well.
If a straight woman were to fall in love with a lesbian, and though had a very hard time deciding, ended up being with her... would you call her bisexual? She isn't attracted to women - but she loves this woman dearly. The relationship can and will work if the two people are dedicated to it. Sorry to post this in the M/M thread, but this was something I have personal experience with.

Well she wouldn't be straight thats for sure, so I suppose bisexual with a strong tendency towards heterosexuality would be what I would call it.  A bisexual tendency, no matter how slight would have had to exist for something like that to happen.

Otherwise, it would mean that sexual orientation is subjective.....when we know it's not. 

[mikeburns]

Russalka wrote...

Carfax wrote...

If Bioware can cater to a small minority of gamers, why not cater to people like me as well that would prefer to not have any sort of homosexual content?

I would like to hope that you are a minority as well.

LOL!

This thread is gonna get locked.

Back on topic!

If I remember right, in DA:O, in the Zevran love scene, he's kind of obviously on the bottom so to speak. When I modded to gay Alistair, since it was supposed to be m/f scene, he's kind of on top.

Will both Fenris and Anders be bottomy like Zev in DA:O, or will they be different from each other? This would kind of influence my pick as well, my Hawke's a top lolol.

[LukaCrosszeria]

catabuca wrote...

I love how so many of us are choosing to create Hawkes who will have differing backgrounds or opinions to the LIs we intend to romance.

I see a lot of mages going for Fenris, and templars/chantry types going for Anders. I like that we often gravitate towards natural discordance in order to deepen the experience.

I thrive on foeyay. 

[Shepard Lives]

All the het raging makes me gloat.

[LukaCrosszeria]

KnightOfTwo wrote...
To be fair you can make Zevran chaste by giving him the chastity belt from the feastday dlc.

He didn't like that much. -50 

[TheDarkBrotherhood]

Chris Readman wrote...

TheDarkBrotherhood wrote...

Chris Readman wrote...

NotTale wrote...

Carfax wrote...

Gaider seems hellbent on promoting some kind of homosexual agenda, so I'm very skeptical.

Hear hear.  He's probably trying to turn us normal folk into second-class citizens of a communist regime.

Shh... We can't let the straight people learn of our agenda to slowly introduce them to gay culture, making them weak and accepting, only to reveal that we're actually overlords from the planet GaxxKrr'zack who couldn't care less about sex. If they discover that we are just out to enslave the entire population of Earth, we won't be able to force them to farm smurf berries in order to power our time travel machine.

Of course we shouldn't let them know, you think we're stupid ? it's not like you just posted this to reveal what we really are.

It's all part of the plan. Let the feeble straight people of Earth believe that they know the truth. I may be lying, OR AM I?!?!!!

You're right, they're probably confused right now and wondering if you're lying, but guess what, only we know the truth .

[Ryzaki]

Why can't we be happy that everyone has a choice now? Why we gotta fight about this? 

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

Tellervo wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

So it's confirmed all LI are bi?

disappointing....Why even bother choosing a gender now other than to hear a different voice.

Oh well once the game is released i shall start my lobbying for 1 Straight 1 Bi and 1 gay LI per gender in future bioware games,I will be mad as hell though if i have to go through getting hit on by every LI again like zevran.

Gender and sexuality are different but related things.  Need to get that one straight (hah!) before you can argue about it.

But the only thing that signifigantly contrasted the genders signifigantly in origins was the choice of LI.
Now the only difference between your gender will be whether you sibling calls you sister or brother.

As someone who identifies strongly as nul gender, I think this is great.

As someone who likes to see the contrast between male and female characters i think this is terrible and lazy.
Males and Females are genrally different. And i don't want this to be like fable or Oblivion where no one even mentions it outside of referring to you as "her" instead of "Him"

a Far better option IMO that would still be fair but still bring contrast between genders is to have: 2 Straight LI, 2 BI LI and 2 Gay LI. 

[catabuca]

c0wb0ycliche wrote...

Back on topic!

If I remember right, in DA:O, in the Zevran love scene, he's kind of obviously on the bottom so to speak. When I modded to gay Alistair, since it was supposed to be m/f scene, he's kind of on top.

Will both Fenris and Anders be bottomy like Zev in DA:O, or will they be different from each other? This would kind of influence my pick as well, my Hawke's a top lolol.

I have a mod where you can swap out whether Al will be top or bottom. It's nice to have that option (also runs the tent scenes whenever you choose that dialogue, rather than just once).

I don't really care how they end up doing it in the romance scenes (I doubt it'll get that far since it's fade to black stuff this time). My imagination can take care of the rest.

[KnightOfTwo]

Ryzaki wrote...

Why can't we be happy that everyone has a choice now? Why we gotta fight about this? 

Agreed, wasn't someone supposed to break out the bubbly?

[Erani]

Ryzaki wrote...

Why can't we be happy that everyone has a choice now? Why we gotta fight about this? 

This. Seriously, why?

Edit: @Knight, I've got the vodka.

Modifié par Erani, 04 mars 2011 - 04:02 .